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Reply #25 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 1:57am
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Warlock feels good because Tentacles are OP. Combine it with DC casting for best effect IMO. The aura locks are fucking trash and have always been fucking trash. Jesus I am glad they are dying under the weight of reaper.
  

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Reply #26 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 9:54am
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WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 1:57am:
Warlock feels good because Tentacles are OP. Combine it with DC casting for best effect IMO. The aura locks are fucking trash and have always been fucking trash. Jesus I am glad they are dying under the weight of reaper.


Aye.
Old one is amazing in heroic reaper.
Almost feels as a sorc

/just cant get used to the slow casting speed
  
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Reply #27 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 1:02pm
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WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 1:57am:
Warlock feels good because Tentacles are OP. Combine it with DC casting for best effect IMO. The aura locks are fucking trash and have always been fucking trash. Jesus I am glad they are dying under the weight of reaper.


why the hate? auralocks are okay. I have one parked at 15. He's reaping just fine.
  
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Reply #28 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 1:31pm
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crunch wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 1:02pm:
why the hate? auralocks are okay. I have one parked at 15. He's reaping just fine.


One of the main benefits of an aura warlock is the ability to just run forward and burst when a lot of mobs are around. This exposes the character to a lot of potential damage, something that's fine in heroics or low reaper but gets you liked fast in high reaper. That and the fact that instakills are stronger the higher in skulls  you go.
  
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Reply #29 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 4:37pm
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crunch wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 1:02pm:
why the hate? auralocks are okay. I have one parked at 15. He's reaping just fine.


I think he means warlocks that dump the DCs when he says auralocks. That is good for R1, but then better splash 2 barb too.
  
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Reply #30 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 6:42pm
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I've been having a lot of fun with Pure class artificer Arcanotech + Harper + crossbow feats.  While daze isn’t the DPS effect that stunned is, putting reaper mobs on a short timeout is hella useful.
  

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WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 1:57am:
Tentacles are OP.

  

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Dragonborn Dragon Breath is Affected by all forms of Caster Level Increases as "character level" increases.

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Reply #34 - Mar 22nd, 2017 at 1:21pm
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Has anyone in omni tried a vanguard build for heroic reaper leveling?
Something like fighter palie wiz for massive ac n such?
Basically either go 2 options.
Endure and let guards kill enemies or go for miss chance and slowly kill em.
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Lelouch wrote on Mar 22nd, 2017 at 1:21pm:
Has anyone in omni tried a vanguard build for heroic reaper leveling?
Something like fighter palie wiz for massive ac n such?
Basically either go 2 options.
Endure and let guards kill enemies or go for miss chance and slowly kill em.
Could be ok in theory


Seems like a terrible idea. What is your goal from heroic reaper? To level fast, gain a ton of reaper do, and see your enemies crushed before your eyes.

Go as Kendal and respec at much higher levels, it just seems terrible to do heroic quests so slow. Plus do you think guards will kill s5 enemies before they kill you?
  
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Reply #36 - Mar 22nd, 2017 at 6:42pm
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SpaceGoat wrote on Mar 22nd, 2017 at 6:07pm:
Seems like a terrible idea. What is your goal from heroic reaper? To level fast, gain a ton of reaper do, and see your enemies crushed before your eyes.

Go as Kendal and respec at much higher levels, it just seems terrible to do heroic quests so slow. Plus do you think guards will kill s5 enemies before they kill you?


For r3 and below it might be a good build.
Focus on guards and stun locks for reapers in vanguard tree.
Craft a crap load of gsteel guard bshit items /as i know guards arent reduced at least they werent on lama.
Could do a vanguard/warlock and focus on temp hp /aura/guard

We need more options, barb/sorc/lock cant be the only min max builds we can do to crush reaper atm.
Although a monk/druid with wheloon endreward ss with vorpal is also really good in lowbies/mid levels
I think its worth exploring, in case it still work full time as it did when i tested on lama
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Reply #37 - Mar 22nd, 2017 at 8:18pm
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Lelouch wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 9:54am:
Aye.
Old one is amazing in heroic reaper.
Almost feels as a sorc

/just cant get used to the slow casting speed


I will second old one as being amazing atm. Necrolock goo is actually stupidly strong from 1-20 (no slow start if you know how to optimize / play it right).
  
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Reply #38 - Mar 22nd, 2017 at 9:06pm
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Sorry but nothing comes close to warlock. Be it "auralock" dump DC or ES cha based.  There is no option. With champ bug you can zerg until you literally can't walk, on r3, then just blast/evard everything. Rinse and repeat. With patch tomorrow, things will get worrse to everyone, but as usual, less for warlocks. Just play R2 instead, or zerg less.

Hell, I don't even need a hire past lv 10.

There is some bad advice here on this thread. I wouldn't recommend anyone looking for quick RPL to play a barb or a sorc. Doesn't matter your goal, if you want quick RPL and don't care about rxp, if you want both on reasonable time, or want max rxp and don't care about how long you take for the life. Warlock will always be superior to any other class, you can always zerg more or play a higher skull / do both things on a warlock instead of another class.

It's like this:

Warlock blaster invested on DC > Warlock blaster dump DC con based >>>> sorc > barb >>>>>> doesn't mattter, rest here suck
  
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Reply #39 - Mar 22nd, 2017 at 9:57pm
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Vaultaccount wrote on Mar 22nd, 2017 at 9:06pm:
Sorry but nothing comes close to warlock. Be it "auralock" dump DC or ES cha based.  There is no option. With champ bug you can zerg until you literally can't walk, on r3, then just blast/evard everything. Rinse and repeat. With patch tomorrow, things will get worrse to everyone, but as usual, less for warlocks. Just play R2 instead, or zerg less.

Hell, I don't even need a hire past lv 10.

There is some bad advice here on this thread. I wouldn't recommend anyone looking for quick RPL to play a barb or a sorc. Doesn't matter your goal, if you want quick RPL and don't care about rxp, if you want both on reasonable time, or want max rxp and don't care about how long you take for the life. Warlock will always be superior to any other class, you can always zerg more or play a higher skull / do both things on a warlock instead of another class.

It's like this:

Warlock blaster invested on DC > Warlock blaster dump DC con based >>>> sorc > barb >>>>>> doesn't mattter, rest here suck


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Reply #40 - Mar 22nd, 2017 at 10:00pm
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In all seriousness, I have to do 2 Dragonborn lives, can I just play them the same as a drow 20Warlock/Max Chaaaaa and Con?
  
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Reply #41 - Mar 22nd, 2017 at 11:24pm
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Vaultaccount wrote on Mar 22nd, 2017 at 9:06pm:
There is some bad advice here on this thread. I wouldn't recommend anyone looking for quick RPL to play a barb or a sorc.


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Reply #42 - Mar 23rd, 2017 at 5:58am
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Looking at the lfm panel and who list it's pretty fucking clear to me that everybody is running tardlocks.
Either because it's just better than anything else or everybody sucks too much to play other classes. Or both.

  
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Wipe wrote on Mar 23rd, 2017 at 5:58am:
Looking at the lfm panel and who list it's pretty fucking clear to me that everybody is running tardlocks.
Either because it's just better than anything else or everybody sucks too much to play other classes. Or both.



They are just the easiest to play right now.
Least amount of risk with high reward.

But i dont know of any sane person that can and will do 30 warlock in row.
Having more options is always good, even if you have to run a life on r2, to keep your sanity i think its good to have more builds /even if suboptimal.
  
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Reply #44 - Mar 23rd, 2017 at 9:26am
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Point is you can always zerg harder or play  on a higer skull with a warlock.

And it's more confortable. You don't  have to think much, or smash many buttons. Can be tired after work, you don't die and your completion times aren't going to change. Everybody just wants to get racial PL as easy/quick as possible, and some wants rxp on the way.

Why sould I give myself a trouble to play anything else?  If things get boring can just play a higher skull and have as much fun on a warlock running higher skull than with other class running lower, but getting more reward on warlock.

I don't see why people think warlocks is so boring. For me it's same thing as playing anything else. Zerging is zerging, doesn't matter what build, it is still zerging.

And zerging faster/harder is more fun if you do like zerging... zerging faster/harder is less boring  if you do not like it.
  
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Reply #45 - Mar 23rd, 2017 at 12:40pm
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Meh.  For fast RPL you are doing R1 at the usual bravery bonus level. (Quest level plus 2).  That maximizes player power with no quest xp penalty and full bonuses.  With that run speed is king.  Maximize that and whatever you do otherwise is gravy.  A warlock and a barb and a spec are within 10% of each other on r1 in this format in terms of how fast they kill shit.  Your quest completion time is more determined by your luck with getting champs and reapers in a quest than your build.   That is the fastest rpl formula

Now if you want to slow down 5-10% and pick up some reaper xp too then you want to run at quest level and run r5 or so and for that, look more at warlock, but still splash some run speed in.
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Asheras wrote on Mar 23rd, 2017 at 12:40pm:
Meh.  For fast RPL you are doing R1 at the usual bravery bonus level. (Quest level plus 2).  That maximizes player power with no quest xp penalty and full bonuses.  With that run speed is king.  Maximize that and whatever you do otherwise is gravy.  A warlock and a barb and a spec are within 10% of each other on r1 in this format in terms of how fast they kill shit.  Your quest completion time is more determined by your luck with getting champs and reapers in a quest than your build.   That is the fastest rpl formula

Now if you want to slow down 5-10% and pick up some reaper xp too then you want to run at quest level and run r5 or so and for that, look more at warlock, but still splash some run speed in.


Agree with the top, disagree with the statement that going from r1 and 2 higher then quest level to r5 and at quest level slows you down only 5 to 10 percent. Unless you're in a great group, and most groups on khyber are doing max r4 for quests 10 and under, you're doing it slower and with some deaths.
  
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Reply #47 - Mar 23rd, 2017 at 2:40pm
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Wipe wrote on Mar 23rd, 2017 at 5:58am:
Looking at the lfm panel and who list it's pretty fucking clear to me that everybody is running tardlocks.
Either because it's just better than anything else or everybody sucks too much to play other classes. Or both.

Path of least resistance.
  
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Reply #48 - Mar 24th, 2017 at 7:04am
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Asheras wrote on Mar 23rd, 2017 at 12:40pm:
Meh.  For fast RPL you are doing R1 at the usual bravery bonus level. (Quest level plus 2).  That maximizes player power with no quest xp penalty and full bonuses.  With that run speed is king.  Maximize that and whatever you do otherwise is gravy.  A warlock and a barb and a spec are within 10% of each other on r1 in this format in terms of how fast they kill shit.  Your quest completion time is more determined by your luck with getting champs and reapers in a quest than your build.   That is the fastest rpl formula

Now if you want to slow down 5-10% and pick up some reaper xp too then you want to run at quest level and run r5 or so and for that, look more at warlock, but still splash some run speed in.


From lv 10+ when you get evards Im doing R3 at base lv about 10% slower than I used to at elite old days on lv +2. Don't think a barb could do that. I tried, I couldn't. Since you get evards its a zerg fest on R3, with a gs amp/amp/amp I don't even have the incovenience of using a hireling.

But even if you are doing R2 and R1, tell me more about your experience with a barb in quests like necro2 with all those phasers and mobs you can't crit.
  
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Reply #49 - Mar 24th, 2017 at 11:38am
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Vaultaccount wrote on Mar 24th, 2017 at 7:04am:
From lv 10+ when you get evards Im doing R3 at base lv about 10% slower than I used to at elite old days on lv +2. Don't think a barb could do that. I tried, I couldn't. Since you get evards its a zerg fest on R3, with a gs amp/amp/amp I don't even have the incovenience of using a hireling.

But even if you are doing R2 and R1, tell me more about your experience with a barb in quests like necro2 with all those phasers and mobs you can't crit.


SImple solution, you skip it.
We have with reaper so much heroic xp that we can choose what content we want to run and what to skip.
  
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