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Re: Racial past life template discussion
Reply #50 - Mar 25th, 2017 at 6:35pm
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Lelouch wrote on Mar 24th, 2017 at 11:38am:
SImple solution, you skip it.
We have with reaper so much heroic xp that we can choose what content we want to run and what to skip.


Well yeah. I can see myself doing a couple lives as a barb to not get bored, but that's because I have a static.

For solo, that issue is for any quest: what you do on a pack of mobs, that will have 2 champs at least, let's say 2 reapers spawn (one is that one that does slow)? Spam temp hp clickie? Not very sustainable.

Evard rules, if all classes had that nice and sexy no save CC there would be more diversity.
  
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Reply #51 - Apr 6th, 2017 at 6:02am
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Vaultaccount wrote on Mar 25th, 2017 at 6:35pm:
Well yeah. I can see myself doing a couple lives as a barb to not get bored, but that's because I have a static.

For solo, that issue is for any quest: what you do on a pack of mobs, that will have 2 champs at least, let's say 2 reapers spawn (one is that one that does slow)? Spam temp hp clickie? Not very sustainable.

Evard rules, if all classes had that nice and sexy no save CC there would be more diversity.


Agree totally.
Oh right not sure if we added it here, and to lazy to actually check but xbow builds do quite ok.
Some 6 ranger 2 artie split and then pick any class that gives highest bab possible to get impr precise as fast as possible.
Saw it do quite ok with para imbue perma ccing everything on r 4 and below, would work on any race with some having more benefit then others.

(just to break monotomy of warlocking)
  
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Reply #52 - Apr 6th, 2017 at 8:57am
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About to do this split with rogue for sneaky dmg.
  

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Reply #53 - Apr 6th, 2017 at 11:51am
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repeater builds are amazing while leveling, especially with int to damage from Harper at like level 3 or 4
  
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Reply #54 - Apr 6th, 2017 at 2:12pm
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I missed that key detail on the first note about xbows.  I've planned out doing a paralyze repeater build.  At least until that gets corrected.
  

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Reply #55 - Apr 8th, 2017 at 2:30pm
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Secondary imbues from AA also work with xbows, or just primaries?
  

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Reply #56 - Apr 8th, 2017 at 2:33pm
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Reply #57 - Apr 8th, 2017 at 7:50pm
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Toke wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 2:30pm:
Secondary imbues from AA also work with xbows, or just primaries? 

the imbues from the cores don't work with anything but bows (unless there's a feature I'm not aware of - and I've played around with it quite a lot)
  
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Reply #58 - Apr 8th, 2017 at 9:46pm
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hydra wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 7:50pm:
and I've played around with it quite a lot

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Reply #59 - Apr 9th, 2017 at 10:13am
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I must suck at repeater because my experience has always been terribly different from casters or revamped melees.

@hydra try changing to bow then back to pewpew. Guess this isn't a secret at this point no reason to be a fight club fag about it
  
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Reply #60 - Apr 9th, 2017 at 10:14am
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Maybe I'm too used to zerg and boom everything in an AoE. Can't do that very well with repeaters, and can't do at all before IPS (basically lv 1-14 for most builds)
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Reply #61 - Apr 9th, 2017 at 4:23pm
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Vaultaccount wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 10:13am:
I must suck at repeater because my experience has always been terribly different from casters or revamped melees.

@hydra try changing to bow then back to pewpew. Guess this isn't a secret at this point no reason to be a fight club fag about it


This does not work with the bow imbues in the cores (shadow arrows, metalline, morphing, etc) from my testing. This only works on the imbues in the tree (force, paralyzing, etc).

Like I said, I've tried many different ways to get shadow arrows to work with shuriken and haven't been successful. Your method obviously works for the imbues in the tree though.
  
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Reply #62 - Apr 13th, 2017 at 12:53pm
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Think I am settling on arti 2, ranger 4, rogue 12.  Yeah, 18....last two don't count.  Getting elemental dmg on large repeaters until I respec to great xbow.  Doesn't appear that reaper lowers the elemental dmg added from arcane archer.  Or, that elemental damage is just super nice with the repeater.
  

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Reply #63 - Apr 13th, 2017 at 12:56pm
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Toke wrote on Apr 13th, 2017 at 12:53pm:
Think I am settling on arti 2, ranger 4, rogue 12.  Yeah, 18....last two don't count.  Getting elemental dmg on large repeaters until I respec to great xbow.  Doesn't appear that reaper lowers the elemental dmg added from arcane archer.  Or, that elemental damage is just super nice with the repeater.



I just did arti/rogue/ranger for ranger past life, the force arrow imbue is sexy
  

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Reply #64 - Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:25pm
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Is the consensus still that the best Racial PL acquiring builds are:

1. Warlock
2. Rogue/Ranger/Arti
3. Barbarian

Assuming not caring about Reaper XP or going into Epics? Just 1-20?
  
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Reply #65 - Sep 8th, 2017 at 9:36am
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I personally like 1Rogue/7Fighter/12Wizard

Rogue
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2 Fighter

Eldritch for Tensors and Arcane Failure buffs, Fighter for the Stalwart and boost to PRR, & Feats, Rogue because you'd have to be stupid to pass on the trap/lock xp

Upgrade my gear every couple of levels with a full set (wonderous @ 14 obviously), and wearing Full Plate with VIRTUALLY with no failure is always fun

R3 Solo & above can be a BIT of a slog.. but only if its fucking beholders or anything that spams neg level

Stunning Shield is REALLY nice as long as you put the DCs into it
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Reply #66 - Sep 8th, 2017 at 10:48am
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ZooperDooper wrote on Sep 8th, 2017 at 9:36am:
I personally like 1Rogue/7Fighter/12Wizard

Rogue
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12 Wizard
2 Fighter

Eldritch for Tensors and Arcane Failure buffs, Fighter for the Stalwart and boost to PRR, & Feats, Rogue because you'd have to be stupid to pass on the trap/lock xp

Upgrade my gear aver couple of levels with a full set (wonderous @ 14 obviously), and wearing Full Plate with VIRTUALLY with no failure is always fun

R3 Solo & above can be a BIT of a slog.. but only if its fucking beholders or anything that spams neg level

Stunning Shield is REALLY nice as long as you put the DCs into it

This build would likely be better with Arty instead of Rogue.

1 Rogue gets you basically nothing but traps.

But 1 Arty gets you traps, exotic Xbows, Rapid Reload, Magical Training, Medium Armour and a dog to pull levers right out of the gate.

Also, I believe that Arty + Wiz results in more SP than either one alone, for some reason.

If you can run as a Helf/Elf/Drow/Morniglord, Arcane Fluidity can reduce armour ASF% to nothing.

It doesn't affect shields however, so you'll need a Sapphire of Spell Agility or a crafted item with Twilight (or both).

I doubt this build is better than Warlock or Barb (espeically splashed for traps), but at least it's something different.  Grin
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Reply #67 - Sep 8th, 2017 at 11:35am
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Metal-Beast wrote on Sep 8th, 2017 at 10:48am:
This build would likely be better with Arty instead of Rogue.

1 Rogue gets you basically nothing but traps. *Which is why I took it*

But 1 Arty gets you traps, exotic Xbows, Rapid Reload, Magical Training, Medium Armour and a dog to pull levers right out of the gate. *Fair enough, but I already have an entire slew of nice Longbows, and Rogue gives me the most starting skill points to help overcome the deficit of being a Fighter*

Also, I believe that Arty + Wiz results in more SP than either one alone, for some reason.*with over 1k by my teens, and I only use it for buffs, point is moot*

If you can run as a Helf/Elf/Drow/Morniglord, Arcane Fluidity can reduce armour ASF% to nothing. *This is for Racials... or did you forget that?*

It doesn't affect shields however, so you'll need a Sapphire of Spell Agility or a crafted item with Twilight (or both).

I doubt this build is better than Warlock or Barb (espeically splashed for traps), but at least it's something different.  Grin



Oookay.. thanks?

My point being its a flat, no tweak, no surpries build for steamrolling Racial past lives...
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Reply #68 - Sep 8th, 2017 at 11:49am
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ZooperDooper wrote on Sep 8th, 2017 at 11:35am:
But 1 Arty gets you traps, exotic Xbows, Rapid Reload, Magical Training, Medium Armour and a dog to pull levers right out of the gate. *Fair enough, but I already have an entire slew of nice Longbows, and Rogue gives me the most starting skill points to help overcome the deficit of being a Fighter*

If you're running as mostly Wiz... You should have enough pts in INT to compensate for the skill pts lost.

It boils down to personal preference of Free Feats vs. skill pts.

Since Search and Disable are the only truly necessary skills for trapping, I'll take the feats.

YMMV.

ZooperDooper wrote on Sep 8th, 2017 at 11:35am:
If you can run as a Helf/Elf/Drow/Morniglord, Arcane Fluidity can reduce armour ASF% to nothing. *This is for Racials... or did you forget that?*

Which is why it was qualified with "if". Or did you miss that? Perhaps I should have qualified further with: "If you're running Helf/Elf/Drow Racial past Lives you can take Arcane Fluidity."

Morninglord was a gaff. My bad.

Otherwise, proceed as normal.

ZooperDooper wrote on Sep 8th, 2017 at 11:35am:
My point being its a flat, no tweak, no surpries build for steamrolling Racial past lives...


My point was that you MAY get more mileage from 1 Arty over 1 rogue for faster, easier steamrolling.

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Reply #69 - Sep 19th, 2017 at 10:39pm
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I am on my 12th racial past life right now and am very surprised to find that the pure monk life I am doing right now has so far been the quickest to zerg through R2 content.

I am level 12 now so this is when a Warlock would probably start pulling ahead but so far nothing has been as fast for Reaper solo'ing as this WW attack at level 6 pure monk.
  
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Reply #70 - Sep 20th, 2017 at 10:37am
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If you have caster past lives, then fiend Warlock 41 SE/27 TS is the defacto champ for RTRs.  Colors of the Queen, Energy Criticals, Skill Mastery, Brace and Morninglord PLs only make it better.

If you have melee past lives, then it's hard to go wrong with slarden's 12 arti/6 fighter/2 monk.  Doubleshot, Enchant Weapon, Skill Mastery and Brace PLs only make it better.

The common thread between them is wand and scroll mastery, high UMD, and high concentration for scroll use.  You need to be able to heal others, even if you're soloing with a hire.  The higher the UMD earlier on, the lower the level you can use more efficient healing scrolls. 
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Reply #71 - Sep 20th, 2017 at 12:19pm
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Carpone wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 10:37am:
If you have caster past lives, then fiend Warlock 41 SE/27 TS is the defacto champ for RTRs.  Colors of the Queen, Energy Criticals, Skill Mastery, Brace and Morninglord PLs only make it better.

If you have melee past lives, then it's hard to go wrong with slarden's 12 arti/6 fighter/2 monk.  Doubleshot, Enchant Weapon, Skill Mastery and Brace PLs only make it better.

The common thread between them is wand and scroll mastery, high UMD, and high concentration for scroll use.  You need to be able to heal others, even if you're soloing with a hire.  The higher the UMD earlier on, the lower the level you can use more efficient healing scrolls. 


This. 

I have two characters I'm moving through PL's right now.  One plays the above mentioned warlock build.  The other plays the Arti build mentioned.  Both are very easy.  Although, sometimes I go great old one instead of fiend pact to mix it up a bit.  Acid damage is a better damage type.  Plus when running with a fiend warlock, its a bunch of green and red cones flying around.  Looks like Christmas.
  
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Reply #72 - Sep 20th, 2017 at 1:10pm
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I find the pure Warlock build to be a little weak in the first 7 or 8 levels or so.  I like to go Arti level 1 for trap ability and repeater. 

Bonus points if you are on gnome lives and can use the racials to get a pretty massive boost to light repeater damage. That combined with some Harper early on let's you just breeze through the early levels.
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Reply #73 - Sep 20th, 2017 at 1:28pm
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I go monk. Why? Because fuck everything else. I love wholesale slaughter as a monk.
  

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Reply #74 - Sep 20th, 2017 at 2:53pm
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Epoch wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 1:28pm:
I go monk. Why? Because fuck everything else. I love wholesale slaughter as a monk.


Monks are still great fun in heroics.
  
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