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Elf Rogue help
Jun 6th, 2017 at 11:44pm
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I was wondering if some one could help me out with a decent Elf, pure rogue, TWF, 32 point, assassin build on his first life that is also good at traps and locks and other rogue stuff.

I've asked somewhere else and was given a build for a halfling rogue, and a ranger with 1 lvl of rogue. Although the halfling looked fun to play I was hoping to use a lesser heart on an elf rogue I used to play around the time WB bought DDO and the ranger just isn't really a rogue.

Maybe if you know of a good build someone has made or if you have experience playing as a rogue you could give me some advice like what would be good for the starting skills and what I should add to each level or what feats I should be looking at and what I should invest my action points into? It's been a long time and I don't really remember how to build a decent rogue and I'm sure a lot has changed now that there are enhancement trees.

  
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Re: Elf Rogue help
Reply #1 - Jun 7th, 2017 at 6:00pm
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DEX maxed
CON and INT with remainder

AP
41 ap, assassin (Basic Abilities + Capstone)
22 ap, thief acrobat (Movement speed, Dodge, haste boost, and a bunch of Dex, +immunity to knockdown)
8 ap, mechanic (wand and scroll mastery)
8 ap, harper (KTA is good for dire charge, and Damage)
1 ap, racial (...because why not)

Feats
TWF
ITWF, asap
GTWF, asap
Precision
Improved Critical: Piercing
Power Attack
Cleave
21: Great Cleave
24: Overwhelming Critical
26: Perfect TWF
27: Epic Reflexes
28:
29: Dire charge (KTA helps), or Harbinger of Madness
30: Scion of Shadowfell. (Hide to SA damage)
30: Epic Sneak Attack

Skills
UMD -> Tensers gives 4 more dex, heal scrolls are great
Hide
Move Silently
Heal (Cocoon should be twisted)
Tumble (Its great for avoiding stuff)

  

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Re: Elf Rogue help
Reply #2 - Jun 9th, 2017 at 1:36pm
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Re: Elf Rogue help
Reply #3 - Jun 21st, 2017 at 7:56pm
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I was able to make the following build with the help of "5 Foot Step" in this thread: http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1490285031/3#3

Any feedback would be appreciated. If you think i should switch anything out please post your suggestion.

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Rogue 20
True Neutral Elf


Stats
               32pt     Level Up
               ----     --------
Strength         8       4: DEX
Dexterity       18       8: DEX
Constitution    16      12: DEX
Intelligence    14      16: DEX
Wisdom           8      20: DEX
Charisma         8


Skills
          1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
         ------------------------------------------------------------
Disable   4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
Open Lo   4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
Search    4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
Spot      4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
Bluff     4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
Diplo     4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
Hide      4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
Move Si   4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
Tumble    4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
UMD       4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
         ------------------------------------------------------------
         40 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10


Feats

 1        : Two Weapon Fighting
 3        : Precision
 6        : Dodge
 9        : Improved Two Weapon Fighting
10 Rogue  : Improved Evasion
12        : Improved Critical: Piercing
13 Rogue  : Opportunist
15        : Greater Two Weapon Fighting
16 Rogue  : Defensive Roll
18        : Mobility
19 Rogue  : Slippery Mind


Enhancements (80 AP)

Assassin (41 AP)
    • Knife in the Darkness, Dagger in the Back, Assassin's Trick, Nimbleness, Lethality, Deadly Shadow
         1. Shiv III, Sneak Attack Training, Stealthy III
         2. Venomed Blades III, Sneak Attack Training
         3. Critical Mastery III, Sneak Attack Training, Dexterity
         4. Killer III, Sneak Attack Training, Dexterity
         5. Measure the Foe III, Knife Specialization, Light Armor Mastery III

Thief-Acrobat (31 AP)
    • Staff Control, Stick Fighting, Tumbler, Kip Up, Cartwheel Charge
         1. Sly Flourish III, Fast Movement
         2. Trip Focus I, Subtlety III, Haste Boost III
         3. Shadow Dodge III, Dexterity
         4. Improved Defensive Roll III, No Mercy III

Elf (8 AP)
    • Elven Accuracy
         1. Keen Senses III, Arcane Fluidity I
         2. Nothing Is Hidden III

Leveling Guide
   1. Ass0 Knife in the Darkness; Ass1 Sneak Attack Training; Elf0 Elven Accuracy
   2. Ass1 Shiv I, II, III; Ass1 Stealthy I
   3. Ass1 Stealthy II; Ass2 Sneak Attack Training; TA0 Staff Control
   4. TA1 Fast Movement; Ass1 Stealthy III; Ass0 Dagger in the Back
   5. TA1 Sly Flourish I; Elf1 Keen Senses I, II, III
   6. Elf1 Arcane Fluidity I; Elf2 Nothing Is Hidden I; Ass3 Sneak Attack Training
   7. Elf2 Nothing Is Hidden II, III; TA1 Sly Flourish II, III
   8. Ass2 Venomed Blades I, II; TA2 Haste Boost I, II
   9. Ass0 Assassin's Trick; Ass2 Venomed Blades III; TA2 Haste Boost III; TA0 Stick Fighting
  10. TA0 Tumbler; Ass3 Dexterity; TA2 Trip Focus I
  11. Ass3 Critical Mastery I; TA2 Subtlety I; Ass4 Dexterity
  12. Ass3 Critical Mastery II; TA2 Subtlety II; Ass3 Critical Mastery III; TA2 Subtlety III
  13. Ass0 Nimbleness; Ass4 Killer I; TA3 Shadow Dodge I
  14. Ass4 Killer II, III; TA3 Shadow Dodge II
  15. Ass4 Sneak Attack Training; TA3 Shadow Dodge III
  16. Ass5 Knife Specialization; TA3 Dexterity
  17. TA0 Kip Up; Ass5 Measure the Foe I; TA4 Improved Defensive Roll I, II
  18. Ass0 Lethality; Ass5 Measure the Foe II; TA4 Improved Defensive Roll III; Ass5 Measure the Foe III
  19. Ass5 Light Armor Mastery I; TA4 No Mercy I; Ass5 Light Armor Mastery II, III
  20. TA4 No Mercy II; Ass0 Deadly Shadow; TA4 No Mercy III; TA0 Cartwheel Charge


Destiny (24 AP)

Shadowdancer
   1. Stealthy III, Dexterity
   2. Lithe III, Dexterity
   3. Shrouding Strike I, Grim Precision III, Dexterity
   4. Improved Invisibility I, Dexterity
   5. Untouchable, Dexterity
   6. Shadow Form

Twists of Fate (30 fate points)
   1. Sense Weakness (Tier 4 Fury)
   2. Balanced Attacks (Tier 3 Primal)
   3. Serenity (Tier 2 Flowers)
   4. Rejuvenation Cocoon (Tier 1 Primal)
 


  
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Re: Elf Rogue help
Reply #4 - Jun 23rd, 2017 at 10:41am
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The Serenity twist might not be worth it after the next update, as I hear they are toning down the cannith crafting spell resistance numbers. Probably go with Unearthly Reaction.
  

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Re: Elf Rogue help
Reply #5 - Jun 23rd, 2017 at 11:50am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Jun 23rd, 2017 at 10:41am:
The Serenity twist might not be worth it after the next update, as I hear they are toning down the cannith crafting spell resistance numbers. Probably go with Unearthly Reaction.


Thank you. I will update that.
  
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