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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 8852 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Pure artificers any good after the pass? Aug 15^th, 2017 at 6:40pm	Print Post
	I know arties got a pass in U35, did it make the class decent again?

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Digimonk Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 1573 Joined: Apr 7^th, 2015	Re: Pure artificers any good after the pass? Reply #1 - Aug 15^th, 2017 at 8:31pm	Print Post
	From the ones I've seen in PUGs, not really. Dunno if it's just the people running them or if the potential of the class in game isn't matching up to the spreadsheet math but gxbow Rogue mechs are still doing better. Shuricannons are LOLing at them. Over the years though, I've run across some really diehard Artie fans/players and I suspect that for them, life is a lot better than it was before the update.


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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: Pure artificers any good after the pass? Reply #2 - Aug 16^th, 2017 at 1:59am	Print Post
	Really the only thing that registers to me is the difference in move speed. But after keeping a pure arti at cap, and playing it there for so long, I'm not sure I can reliably recognize dps anymore. Oh. More things are dead after 18 seconds of fusillade than were dead after fewer seconds of fusillade. Is that what dps looks like?

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Alex DeLarge Epic Poster Offline Get ready for some of the 'ol in-out, in-out Posts: 3467 Location: Foggy Albion Joined: May 11^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Pure artificers any good after the pass? Reply #3 - Aug 16^th, 2017 at 2:33am	Print Post
	Revaulting wrote on Aug 16^th, 2017 at 1:59am: Really the only thing that registers to me is the difference in move speed. But after keeping a pure arti at cap, and playing it there for so long, I'm not sure I can reliably recognize dps anymore. Oh. More things are dead after 18 seconds of fusillade than were dead after fewer seconds of fusillade. Is that what dps looks like? YASS.


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crunch Stormreaver Piker Offline Posts: 745 Location: Europe Joined: Mar 20^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Pure artificers any good after the pass? Reply #4 - Aug 16^th, 2017 at 3:02am	Print Post
	Yeah, well, Fusillade can really chew bosses. Well and trash. That said, I still prefer caster artificers. Probably because I suck and run only low skull reaper where spell DPS is still okay and being in Blast Rod range doesn't get me killed. ATM running a artificer 9/sorc 1/fighter 10 for past life - using cleaves to supplement the DPS while SLAs are on cooldown. It's okay, can certainly carry weaker groups through R1-2s, but it gets pretty pathetic at higher skull levels.


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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Pure artificers any good after the pass? Reply #5 - Aug 18^th, 2017 at 10:53am	Print Post
	If you're really good at runearm blasting (consistently firing it off as soon as it charges up to tier 5) and that doesn't impair your running and xbow shooting, then yes, it is decent DPS, but not impressive, and not more than a properly built shuriken or mech build will get with less effort. http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1498748221/0

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iGouger Ex Member	Re: Pure artificers any good after the pass? Reply #6 - Aug 19^th, 2017 at 2:34am	Print Post
	Artificer is one of my favorite classes (and splashes) and I absolutely love using runearms, even if they're not optimal. I've never been one for min-maxing or playing at endgame or whatever. So Artificers have always been great fun for me personally, or at least they were until Turbine decided to fuck over the game with monster champions, thereby making heroic game 99% less enjoyable IMO the biggest thing about the change is the buff to runearms. Obviously I haven't done the relevant math and comparisons between Battle Engineer vs. Mechanic or anything like that, but in theory, someone who makes great use of Runearm charges should do well DPS wise. Runearms actually do some good damage now. Rune Arm's cooldown has been improved by 30%. This is very good, and allows you to spend AP elsewhere should you desire to Rune Arm's Charge Decay while moving has been reduced by 50%.Also a good thing There is no longer a penalty to movement speed while charging a Rune Arm.Very nice and makes playing Artificer a lot less clunky Artificers now get Warhammer and Light Hammer proficiencies. Improved Critical: Bludgeoning has been added to the Artificer Class Feat list. meh Artificer Admixture spells now fire straight down if the caster has themselves hard-targeted.nice quality of life change I suppose, but really, if you're playing Arti, you're going to be healing with UMD Heal scrolls anyway Rune Arm shots now scale with 100% Spell Power.Probably their biggest boost aside from Unlock Potential or Tactical Mobility Rune Arm weapon imbues now scale with 200% Melee or Ranged Power (whichever is higher).This one's also pretty nice


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