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Sep 27th, 2017 at 1:25pm
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Not sure what all that is.. but thx for the info
  
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Skrilla wrote on Sep 27th, 2017 at 5:01pm:
Not sure what all that is.. but thx for the info

knife fighting thrower tree is an enhancement tree that promises a new knife wielding animation and wisdom to damage ability. the new animation holds the knives down instead of up. Teek said it's away from the enemy and maybe they should have made the new animation hold the knives at your own neck.  Cheesy

Aasimar is a new race. wisdom and charisma race. prolly not iconic so you have more racial grind and the missing wisdom to complete the +2. thought you were done with your racials, bruh? nah, fam...
  

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Reply #3 - Sep 27th, 2017 at 5:18pm
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Aasimar is a new race. No idea what the knife fighting thing is, maybe a new rogue tree?
  

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Reply #4 - Sep 27th, 2017 at 5:19pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Sep 27th, 2017 at 5:12pm:
Aasimar is a new race. wisdom and charisma race. prolly not iconic so you have more racial grind and the missing wisdom to complete the +2. thought you were done with your racials, bruh? nah, fam...

Would like to see an Iconic Aasimar that was really good at Turning/Destroying undead first and being a caster second. Melee would be a tertiary function.

The normal Aasimar could be focused on melee (to make really good Paladins) first, undead killer second and a caster as a tertiary role.
  

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Reply #5 - Sep 27th, 2017 at 5:20pm
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noamineo wrote on Sep 27th, 2017 at 5:18pm:
Aasimar is a new race. No idea what the knife fighting thing is, maybe a new rogue tree?

I seem to recall from one of the streaming events or maybe it was an ask the devs event that Vistani Knife Fighter was going to be a separate enhancement tree much the Harper tree is separate.
  

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Reply #6 - Sep 27th, 2017 at 5:46pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Sep 27th, 2017 at 5:12pm:
Aasimar is a new race. wisdom and charisma race. prolly not iconic so you have more racial grind and the missing wisdom to complete the +2. thought you were done with your racials, bruh? nah, fam...


Ya only 2.5 lives left.. so about the time i do those, they bust out 3 more? What??.. perfect timing..

Thought peeps were saying theres another class as well that would be coming out? I forget what they called it but prolly the last +1 stat?.. Maybe they will bust that out when i get close to doing this new ass race? That grind tho....
  
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Reply #7 - Sep 27th, 2017 at 7:49pm
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Hopefully Aasimar is better than the original preview we saw on the PC. They 'intentionally' typed a certain bonus to exclude two classes to benefit. Despite both of those classes being fitting aasimar races from a tabletop roleplay perspective. But you know, "Mah paladins" whinge won the day.

I should also warn you now, these aren't 3.5e Aasimar. They used some 5e fluff shit from some guide? Votan's or some shit. Google it so you can know the cringe ahead and I can avoid breaking the NDA.
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Edrein wrote on Sep 27th, 2017 at 7:49pm:
Votan's or some shit.


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Reply #9 - Sep 27th, 2017 at 8:35pm
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QuantumFX wrote on Sep 27th, 2017 at 8:25pm:


Sounds about right, all I recall from the discussion was folks asking if they used 5e stuff and they said yes.

Yeah, 106 is definitely your answer. Not a fan, mostly because the information there affects choices and it seemed to be super flavorful rather than "this would make a neat race-build combo". Expect to stay human forever once you've got racial completionist, unless you like arcane archer.
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Reply #10 - Sep 27th, 2017 at 11:28pm
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Skrilla wrote on Sep 27th, 2017 at 5:46pm:
Thought peeps were saying theres another class as well that would be coming out? I forget what they called it but prolly the last +1 stat?.. Maybe they will bust that out when i get close to doing this new ass race? That grind tho....

Supposedly tiefling? Though that would have to be iconic because it isn't a strength race (to complete the missing +2 str for racial lives). They're int/cha, so idk if they would add a +3 to the DC classes.
  

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Rubbinns wrote on Sep 27th, 2017 at 11:28pm:
Supposedly tiefling? Though that would have to be iconic because it isn't a strength race (to complete the missing +2 str for racial lives). They're int/cha, so idk if they would add a +3 to the DC classes.


I assume tiefling will be some brutish 5e style model, and they'll be buffed on roids with strength reusing our favorite half orc/pdk model once more.

But honestly; every new race they've mentioned as of late isn't a strength potential. The only thing I could remotely see them trying to squeeze out a turd of for strength would be druergar.
  
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Reply #12 - Sep 28th, 2017 at 2:57am
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Cool asimaar.
Im done with all tr and racials and started con base dwarf fighter. Cleaves for 700 at heroic at lvl 14 with 56 con is fun
  
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Reply #13 - Sep 28th, 2017 at 5:22am
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Edrein wrote on Sep 27th, 2017 at 7:49pm:
Hopefully Aasimar is better than the original preview we saw on the PC. They 'intentionally' typed a certain bonus to exclude two classes to benefit. Despite both of those classes being fitting aasimar races from a tabletop roleplay perspective. But you know, "Mah paladins" whinge won the day.

I should also warn you now, these aren't 3.5e Aasimar. They used some 5e fluff shit from some guide? Votan's or some shit. Google it so you can know the cringe ahead and I can avoid breaking the NDA.


Ima play a scourge aasimar.  That 1 minute of glowing like a spotlight will be long enough for me to find a flashlight after a power outage.
  

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Reply #14 - Sep 28th, 2017 at 10:26am
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OK... I thought you guys were screwing with me... But Vistani Knife Fighter is a "thing".

I guess they realized how completely shite an Assassin build was and now it is the new "Go To" tree to flesh out those builds like Harper was (is) for Artificer.

This game could defintely use some new attack animations. They should have brought them in for Single-Waeapon Fighting, but whatever.

Aside: I always thought each RACE should have it's own set of weapon/ attack animations. But that's pipe-dreaming.

Aasimar was queer AF in PnP, and it's queer AF now.

That being said, I hated Dragonborn with a burning passion and they turned out great.

Oh well... I guess I'll have something to look forward to (griping about) when I'm back from my tour.  Grin
  

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Reply #15 - Sep 28th, 2017 at 11:49am
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Be prepared for the glory that is

+1 critical threat range to throwing weapons
+1 threat modifier to throwing weapons.
20% doubleshot to throwing weapons
30% action boost to attack speed with throwing weapons
20 ranged power when using a throwing weapon
[2w] attack that proc's some form of CC (trip or stunning)
+defensive stat (dodge) when using a throwing weapon
Can use (stat) as damage/hit modifer when using throwing weapon
Everything else being mostly garbage
  
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if only they could bring Kalashtars and shifters instead of stupid shit races that shouldn't be player races... ( even if they neuter said stupid shit races along the way )

  

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Zehnpai wrote on Sep 28th, 2017 at 11:49am:
Be prepared for the glory that is

+1 critical threat range to throwing weapons
+1 threat modifier to throwing weapons.
20% doubleshot to throwing weapons
30% action boost to attack speed with throwing weapons
20 ranged power when using a throwing weapon
[2w] attack that proc's some form of CC (trip or stunning)
+defensive stat (dodge) when using a throwing weapon
Can use (stat) as damage/hit modifer when using throwing weapon
Everything else being mostly garbage

yeh, but new animation, fam!
  

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Zehnpai wrote on Sep 28th, 2017 at 11:49am:
Be prepared for the glory that is

+1 critical threat range to throwing weapons
+1 threat modifier to throwing weapons.
20% doubleshot to throwing weapons
30% action boost to attack speed with throwing weapons
20 ranged power when using a throwing weapon
[2w] attack that proc's some form of CC (trip or stunning)
+defensive stat (dodge) when using a throwing weapon
Can use (stat) as damage/hit modifer when using throwing weapon
Everything else being mostly garbage


So melee dagger users are left out to dry?
  
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Zehnpai wrote on Sep 28th, 2017 at 11:49am:
Be prepared for the glory that is

+1 critical threat range to throwing weapons
+1 threat modifier to throwing weapons.
20% doubleshot to throwing weapons
30% action boost to attack speed with throwing weapons
20 ranged power when using a throwing weapon
[2w] attack that proc's some form of CC (trip or stunning)
+defensive stat (dodge) when using a throwing weapon
Can use (stat) as damage/hit modifer when using throwing weapon
Everything else being mostly garbage


Wait, is this the knife fighter tree or the new race?
  

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noamineo wrote on Sep 28th, 2017 at 4:32pm:
Wait, is this the knife fighter tree or the new race?


Obviously the knife tree you moron.
  
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Obviously the knife tree you moron.


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I fell for it, well done.
  
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Reply #23 - Sep 29th, 2017 at 4:26pm
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Edrein wrote on Sep 28th, 2017 at 4:30pm:
So melee dagger users are left out to dry?


Lynn played an assassin build once and said that rogues are totally cool and fine and you should just stop complaining because SSG are the biggest bunch of bestest besties ever so I wouldn't anticipate them doing an overall weapon pass ever.

However, they've stated they want to make throwing with things other then shurikens worthwhile so this is how they will do it.

And since they're only allowed to consult the outsourced Indian programmer that SSG keeps on retainer for 1 day out of 5 (the rest of the time goes to the LOTRO team), we can't hope for new or interesting abilities in a knife fighting tree.  So instead all we can hope for is the same copy/pasted benefits that they've used in the last 5 revamps.
  
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Reply #24 - Sep 29th, 2017 at 4:41pm
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Zehnpai wrote on Sep 29th, 2017 at 4:26pm:
Lynn played an assassin build once and said that rogues are totally cool and fine and you should just stop complaining because SSG are the biggest bunch of bestest besties ever so I wouldn't anticipate them doing an overall weapon pass ever.

However, they've stated they want to make throwing with things other then shurikens worthwhile so this is how they will do it.

And since they're only allowed to consult the outsourced Indian programmer that SSG keeps on retainer for 1 day out of 5 (the rest of the time goes to the LOTRO team), we can't hope for new or interesting abilities in a knife fighting tree.  So instead all we can hope for is the same copy/pasted benefits that they've used in the last 5 revamps.


Ah, thought you were leaking something hilarious. Folks only told me it had been posted and what was my takeback on it. I should have played dumb and asked for a few highlights before admitting I was "rotated off" the council at the time.
  
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