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Carpone Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1695 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	How many EPLs are worth it? Nov 5^th, 2017 at 3:30pm	Print Post
	I�m taking a break from heroic content while my static group is on hiatus for a bit to deal with buying a house, new baby, divorce and other real life stuff.� I just finished EPL #15 on what will eventually be my DC arcane caster: Divine - Brace x3 Martial - Skill Master x3 Arcane - Energy Criticals x3, Arcane Alacrity x3 Primal - Colors of the Queen x3 That�s 31 fate points at level 30, which is enough for 4/3/1/1/1 twist slots. I�m thinking about soloing through the rest of the EPLs for the passive bonuses.� On the pro side, all those passive bonuses will be useful during the 30+ racial past lives I�ve got left to do.� For example, the 18 PRR from divine sphere PLs is effectively another 10-15% damage reduction in heroic content. On the con side of the balance sheet:� JFC, 8.25M is a fuckton of XP now that the level cap is 30.� Also, leveling up in off destinies and not having first time completion bonuses sucks SSG-sized donkey dick.� Why the fuck can�t karma be one pool that doesn�t require replenishment from a specific destiny sphere?� That way you�d have more fun leveling up in a useful destiny. If I don�t do more EPLs on my DC caster, then my options are doing 4 iconic past lives (for non-existant iconic completionist that one day might be implemented and two paladin PLs), developing my shuriken alt who only has 3 EPLs, or taking a break. I�d probably finish out 3x Doubleshot/Enchant Weapon on the alt, then fill in the rest with Brace and Skill Mastery to get epic completionist for the extra twist slot.� I doubt I'll ever get heroic and racial completionist on the shuriken toon. What would you do?


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WonderfulFoppyBint Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Poooop Posts: 5947 Location: stockholm victim of hag master Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	Re: How many EPLs are worth it? Reply #1 - Nov 5^th, 2017 at 3:35pm	Print Post
	Only do two consecutive EPLs before a Racial IMO. There's enough XP between R1 and Elite to get a very fast EPL in every 4 days or so playing casually. You could do a 3rd EPL but that would involve running Hards which is fucking annoying IMO and by that time usually I'm ready to try another build. YMMV Definitely hit the Divine PLS first, then do the Arcanes, then see how you feel about going farther. I can usually only do 6 PLs consecutively before wanting to hang around at cap and rub my nuts on my dick eating doughnuts off of my cock like onion rings off of an onion ring stand. GL

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Derpderpin Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 101 Joined: Sep 16^th, 2015	Re: How many EPLs are worth it? Reply #2 - Nov 5^th, 2017 at 5:26pm	Print Post
	use your brain jackass.


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Skrilla Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 1362 Joined: Dec 12^th, 2013	Re: How many EPLs are worth it? Reply #3 - Nov 5^th, 2017 at 8:07pm	Print Post
	Id do them all x3.. fuck it


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Jelly_Muffin Stormreaver Piker Offline Just say fuckoff! Posts: 660 Location: Not in the cool kids club Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013 Gender:	Re: How many EPLs are worth it? Reply #4 - Nov 6^th, 2017 at 1:26am	Print Post
	Skrilla wrote on Nov 5^th, 2017 at 8:07pm: Id do them all x3.. fuck it hell ye


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Tangelina Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 142 Joined: Oct 9^th, 2014	Re: How many EPLs are worth it? Reply #5 - Nov 6^th, 2017 at 2:54am	Print Post
	Skrilla wrote on Nov 5^th, 2017 at 8:07pm: Id do them all x3.. fuck it Yeah been there done that


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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: How many EPLs are worth it? Reply #6 - Nov 6^th, 2017 at 1:50pm	Print Post
	Carpone wrote on Nov 5^th, 2017 at 3:30pm: What would you do? Roll an alt. Fuck around.

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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: How many EPLs are worth it? Reply #7 - Nov 6^th, 2017 at 2:12pm	Print Post
	They are all worth it. There is an advantage to not doing them all consecutively, but I think the first time bonus and slayer xp is generally overrated. The vast majority of your xp gain is going to be from zerging the same 5-10 or so quests once or twice per day. (Wizking, Spies, Mirror, VoN3, OoB, 2TT, ADQ, WGU, etc.) How far down the list you go depends on how much time you have, then you add in a first time run of a marginal quest or one with something you are looking to loot or a slayer area.

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hydra Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 145 Joined: Jan 28^th, 2017	Re: How many EPLs are worth it? Reply #8 - Nov 6^th, 2017 at 5:52pm	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Nov 6^th, 2017 at 2:12pm: They are all worth it. There is an advantage to not doing them all consecutively, but I think the first time bonus and slayer xp is generally overrated. The vast majority of your xp gain is going to be from zerging the same 5-10 or so quests once or twice per day. (Wizking, Spies, Mirror, VoN3, OoB, 2TT, ADQ, WGU, etc.) How far down the list you go depends on how much time you have, then you add in a first time run of a marginal quest or one with something you are looking to loot or a slayer area. Honestly the right choice is to exploit it if you are just going to sit there and farm dailies, which leaves only macros left from my knowledge. I'd rather be burned alive than have to grind 36 epls (not counting the ipls) on just dailies. Granted thats not saying much because right now the idea of playing the game at all is equivalent of rubbing salt into an open cut.


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Epoch Alaskan Ice Hole Offline Epochalypse Posts: 10377 Location: Frozen Tundra Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: How many EPLs are worth it? Reply #9 - Nov 7^th, 2017 at 3:48pm	Print Post
	I did them all when the cap was 28, no regrets. Honestly, all those stacking passives is the only reason why monk can run through r1 and r2 heroic content like it is a fun sport. Otherwise, he would be FUCKED.

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Skrilla Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 1362 Joined: Dec 12^th, 2013	Re: How many EPLs are worth it? Reply #10 - Nov 7^th, 2017 at 4:44pm	Print Post
	Ya i did all 36 when cap was 28 as well.. I did them all in a row without tring because i already had all 3x heroic.. so the xp wasnt pouring in as fast as it would now.. That 2mill extra a life now would make doing all 36 take an extra 5 weeks or so.. so im glad to be done with them..


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Epoch Alaskan Ice Hole Offline Epochalypse Posts: 10377 Location: Frozen Tundra Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: How many EPLs are worth it? Reply #11 - Nov 7^th, 2017 at 5:43pm	Print Post
	On the bright side, they dropped heroic XP requirements, like two years ago. Shooting through racials is a breeze in comparison to all the heroics I did.

	OnePercenter wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:41am: I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.� #epochsfamiliarFTW Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 2:09am: It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity. Even against donuts.
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QuantumFX Shroud Slacker Offline Now back to the GOOD part! Posts: 1170 Joined: Nov 15^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: How many EPLs are worth it? Reply #12 - Nov 7^th, 2017 at 6:53pm	Print Post
	IMO, I don't see any reason not to do 1-30 runs, followed by either an iTR or an eTR + (rTR or hTR) combo to get you 2 PL's and take you back to level 1. Your epic levels pay for the hearts of wood, you rock 1st time bonuses to cap, 99% of the meaningful gear now is BtA, you can take advantage of all the reaper XP, and you can tailor your race/class/destiny choices to your playstyle.


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Skrilla Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 1362 Joined: Dec 12^th, 2013	Re: How many EPLs are worth it? Reply #13 - Nov 7^th, 2017 at 11:06pm	Print Post
	Ya. You can do epls in like 3 days the first time without playing too much.


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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	Re: How many EPLs are worth it? Reply #14 - Nov 9^th, 2017 at 6:27am	Print Post
	Carpone wrote on Nov 5^th, 2017 at 3:30pm: If I don�t do more EPLs on my DC caster, then my options are doing 4 iconic past lives (for non-existant iconic completionist that one day might be implemented and two paladin PLs), developing my shuriken alt who only has 3 EPLs, or taking a break. I�d probably finish out 3x Doubleshot/Enchant Weapon on the alt, then fill in the rest with Brace and Skill Mastery to get epic completionist for the extra twist slot.� I doubt I'll ever get heroic and racial completionist on the shuriken toon. What would you do? I'd do 3x Enchant Weapon, but that's just me. Congratulations on the newborn and sorry about the divorce, you have a lot of new learning in store for you.� Enjoy!� �
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	No, let me be Frank. Digimonk wrote on Dec 8^th, 2016 at 12:39pm: I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive. Smart players know how to use buyback. Digimonk wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:58pm: I will not chone. I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect. Smart people don't elicit "side effects."� They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: How many EPLs are worth it? Reply #15 - Nov 9^th, 2017 at 2:34pm	Print Post
	Frank wrote on Nov 9^th, 2017 at 6:27am: Congratulations on the newborn and sorry about the divorce Or grats on the divorce and sorry about the newborn. Whichever.

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Meursault Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Freedom of Speech Posts: 2410 Location: Hartford, CT; USA Joined: Aug 22^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: How many EPLs are worth it? Reply #16 - Nov 17^th, 2017 at 7:42am	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Nov 6^th, 2017 at 2:12pm: The vast majority of your xp gain is going to be from zerging the same 5-10 or so quests once or twice per day. (Wizking, Spies, Mirror, VoN3, OoB, 2TT, ADQ, WGU, etc.) How far down the list you go depends on how much time you have Hey, would you expand that list a bit more? I might be coming back to the game for a while and knowing what's the current top of the heap would help keep the illusion of progress going a bit longer

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Strake Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Evading a ban Posts: 6303 Joined: Jan 5^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: How many EPLs are worth it? Reply #17 - Nov 17^th, 2017 at 9:09pm	Print Post
	This shit is crazy. I left the game when the TR treadmill became obvious. Since then, they doubled down sixteen times over. There's, what, TR, heroic TR, epic TR, reaper something or other, racial something or other, twists, and oh yeah 10 more levels? Jesus, guys. /rant off


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Skrilla Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 1362 Joined: Dec 12^th, 2013	Re: How many EPLs are worth it? Reply #18 - Nov 18^th, 2017 at 2:07am	Print Post
	Strake wrote on Nov 17^th, 2017 at 9:09pm: This shit is crazy. I left the game when the TR treadmill became obvious. Since then, they doubled down sixteen times over. There's, what, TR, heroic TR, epic TR, reaper something or other, racial something or other, twists, and oh yeah 10 more levels? Jesus, guys. /rant off Ya all racial trs... Iconic trs... And now its all about reaper pts too


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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: How many EPLs are worth it? Reply #19 - Nov 18^th, 2017 at 5:49am	Print Post
	Can't wait until Sentient Weapon TR....

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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: How many EPLs are worth it? Reply #20 - Nov 20^th, 2017 at 3:36pm	Print Post
	Meursault wrote on Nov 17^th, 2017 at 7:42am: Hey, would you expand that list a bit more? I might be coming back to the game for a while and knowing what's the current top of the heap would help keep the illusion of progress going a bit longer LoD IDemands UGraves DDtW Rusted Blades Death Undone VoN2 VoN4 VoN5 BoB TbFire Maze Feast Cabal Tor Mask Vol

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Meursault Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Freedom of Speech Posts: 2410 Location: Hartford, CT; USA Joined: Aug 22^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: How many EPLs are worth it? Reply #21 - Nov 21^st, 2017 at 3:25pm	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Nov 20^th, 2017 at 3:36pm: LoD IDemands UGraves DDtW Rusted Blades Death Undone VoN2 VoN4 VoN5 BoB TbFire Maze Feast Cabal Tor Mask Vol Awesome, TYVM

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