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Request for help tweaking a build.
May 13th, 2018 at 3:49am
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There's a build I'm running that leaves me with the nagging feeling that it could perform better. I'm good with caster builds, they're a lot more intuitive to me than melee builds. Anyway, you guys offer good advice and will undoubtedly have some tweaks to suggest. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Goal: survivable, high dps and high dc monk wraps build.

Limitations: 10 reaper points in current build. Limited racial points...this is not my main and reincarnating has lost a lot of appeal. For all intents and purposes it's a triple heroic triple epic completionist.

Race Aasimar
18 monk/1favored soul/1 fighter
Str: 8--> 21
Dex: 18--> 74
Con: 12--> 62
Int: 12--> 30
Wis: 18--> 76
Cha: 10--> 22

Levels: Dex
Tomes: +7

Feats:
1-Dodge
1-Stunning Fist
1-Fallen Bond
2-TWF
3 (FvS)-Mobility
4- Path of Harmonious Balance
6- Combat Expertise
7-Spring Attack
9-Whirlwind Attack
10 (Fgt) Imp. TWF
12- Imp. Crit. Bludg.
15- Completionist
18- Grt. TWF
21 Overwheling Crit.
24- Improved Martial Arts
26- Perfect TWF
27- Vorpal Weapons
28- Tactician
29- Dire Charge
30- Epic Reflexes
30- Astral Plane

Actions Points:
Aasimar (16AP): 5 cores (2 wis, 6 lay hands, 2 tactical dcs)
+ 2x healing amp
+ Divine Puropose (5% doublestrike)
+ Divine Charges 3/3
+ Fallen Bond= passive fear immunity, 10 MP, 1 vulnerability stack/s.

WarSoul (4AP): 1 core
Divine Wisdom: 3/3

Henshin (4AP): 1 core
Mystic Training: 3/3

Ninja Spy (21 AP): 3 core
Stealthy: 3/3
Subtlety: 3/3
Acrobat: 1/3
Power Boost: 3/3
Sneak Attack: I, II, III
Wisdom I.

Shintao (35 AP): 5 core
+Reed in the Winds 3/3
+Deft Strikes 3/3
+Smite Tainted Creatures
+Iron Skin 3/3
+Unbalancing Strikes
+Conditioning 3/3
+Jade Strike
+Wisdom
+Tomb of Jade
+Instinctive Defense 2/3
+Wisdom
+Empty Hand Mastery
+Kukan-Do

Gear:
Goggles: Concentration/Accuracy/Ins. Wisdom
Helm: Executioners-Seeker/Ins.Deception/Q. Combat Mastery/Mythic 3/ Deathblock
Necklace: Dawn's Herald Charm, Fleetfoot desired
Trinket: Echo of Ravenkind- 20 Con/True Seeing/Imp. Dec.
Armor: Legendary Disciple of the Dawn- Fort 209/Parrying/Profane +2/Physical Sheltering 50/Mythic Armor +4/Golem's Heart
Cloak: Legendary Shadowhail Cloak= Ghostly/Hide + Move Silently +22/Deception 16/Good Luck +2
Bracers: Legendary Pack-Fueled desired. +9 Con.
Waist: Legendary Braided Cutcord- Blurry/Dex 19/Q. Dex 4/Q Dodge +4/Mythic +1/Globe of True Imperial Blood.
Ring 1: Legendary Perfect Pinnacle- Deadly 16/Stunning 22/Gr. Reinforced Fists/Mythic +1/Power +250
Boots: Legendary Flightfoot Greaves- Natural Armor 19/FoM/Ref 16/Speed 30%/augmet----
Gloves: Legendary Crumbling Gloves- Ins Dex 9/Q Int 4/Shatter 22/Ins. Phys Sheltering 24/Mythic +3/Sapphire of Defense 16
Ring 2: Legendary Chieftan- 18  Wis/4 Q. Wis./2 Festive Wis/Spell Saves 14/Q. Will Save 3
Primary: Duality w/prowess 5 piece bonus.

DCs:
Stunning Fist: 118
Jade Strike/Tomb of jade: 121
Dire Charge: 123
Quivering Palm: 85

Destony: Legendary Dreadnought
Tactics III
Extra Action Boost III
Haste Boost III
Improved Combat Expertise
Con III
Devastating Critical
Pulverizer
Master's Blitz

Twists: Sense Weakness, Balanced Attacks, Enlightenment, A Dance of Flowers, Rejuvenation Cocoon

HP: 1422
AC: 191
PRR: 195 (225 w/Blitz)
MRR: 34

Saves: 69/93/77

I'm thinking the dcs may be overkill...suggestions would be appreciated.
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Re: Request for help tweaking a build.
Reply #1 - May 13th, 2018 at 9:46am
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i would suggest  going pure monk and taking sneak of shadows and scion of Ethereal and for wraps Duality
  
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Reply #2 - May 13th, 2018 at 12:31pm
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Destiny? Twists?
  

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Reply #3 - May 14th, 2018 at 7:30am
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Edited to add destiny and twists. Def. intend to use Duality wraps, just need more runes.
  
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Re: Request for help tweaking a build.
Reply #4 - May 16th, 2018 at 4:38pm
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I would definitely swap out astral for ethereal and symmetric strikes for sense weakness. And fit advancing blows into your ed.

I would also be thinking about fitting ring of prowess into your gear and swapping epic reflexes for sneak of shadows.
  

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Reply #5 - Jun 14th, 2018 at 8:35pm
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Rise of the phoenix is stupid, so is improved martial arts

Improved Combat Expertise... I hope you're not in that stance, I would switch to precision, I think that overall it's more dps than power attack. (AC no good on a monk)

Ehh, you forgot kukando? It's amazeballs.

Do you really need enlightenment on a melee? Personally I prefer the one from magister that gives +6 to will and doesn't have you autofail on a 1.

I like how you dumped con. Most people don't realize con is a dump stat ^,^

Really nice toon for the rest, btw you should be able to max mrr.

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Reply #6 - Jun 17th, 2018 at 6:27pm
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I disagree about rise and improved martial arts.

Combat expertise is silly though. Go precision. Don't dump con imo... ...you still need it for dots etc that don't one shot on r10 even.

Take capstone and go Dex / Wis / Con / Int. Capstone is more damage than wisdom to hit and damage. Your dex will be pretty high anyway.
  

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Reply #7 - Jun 19th, 2018 at 2:52pm
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WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Jun 17th, 2018 at 6:27pm:
I disagree about rise and improved martial arts.


Maybe if he took some real enhancements he wouldn't wipe the party and wouldn't need a self res.

WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Jun 17th, 2018 at 6:27pm:
Take capstone and go Dex / Wis / Con / Int. Capstone is more damage than wisdom to hit and damage. Your dex will be pretty high anyway.


It's half wis mod to damage and dc's, you retard.
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Reply #8 - Jun 19th, 2018 at 9:43pm
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Maybe if he took some real enhancements he wouldn't wipe the party and wouldn't need a self res.


If you're not putting yourself in situations where you can wipe then you must be running things that are wayyyy to fucking easy. I don't know. Some people enjoy running the same shit over and over again on r1-3.

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It's half wis mod to damage and dc's, you retard.


I thought that would go without saying.
You get more damage the other way. Wisdom to hit and damage is not worth more than the +[w] and melee power by quite a bit.

The dcs are almost the same if you pick up KTA. You're down by like 4 or something.
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Reply #9 - Jun 21st, 2018 at 8:25pm
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WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Jun 19th, 2018 at 9:43pm:
If you're not putting yourself in situations where you can wipe then you must be running things that are wayyyy to fucking easy. I don't know. Some people enjoy running the same shit over and over again on r1-3.

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I thought that would go without saying.
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WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Jun 19th, 2018 at 9:43pm:
You get more damage the other way. Wisdom to hit and damage is not worth more than the +[w] and melee power by quite a bit.

The dcs are almost the same if you pick up KTA. You're down by like 4 or something.
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Reply #10 - Jun 22nd, 2018 at 8:47am
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Ok, I've looked at the advice and played around a bit with the various permutations on lama. Kobold times of 29.7, 30.2 and 30.5. Not top dps by any means, but not utter shyte.

Swapping Symmetric Strikes for Sense Weakness and Rise of the Phoenix for Kukan-do were both good calls. Much appreciated.

Dumping Con- is the difference between 62 and 64 or 66 con at cap THAT game breaking?

Using the capstone + KTA vs Divine Will, though...even with a lot of gear swapping, that's a double digit loss in dcs. I'd rather keep no-fail stuns in R10.

Will mess around with feats a bit more next round on lama.
  
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Reply #11 - Jun 22nd, 2018 at 9:20pm
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Finnigan wrote on Jun 22nd, 2018 at 8:47am:
Ok, I've looked at the advice and played around a bit with the various permutations on lama. Kobold times of 29.7, 30.2 and 30.5. Not top dps by any means, but not utter shyte.

Swapping Symmetric Strikes for Sense Weakness and Rise of the Phoenix for Kukan-do were both good calls. Much appreciated.

Dumping Con- is the difference between 62 and 64 or 66 con at cap THAT game breaking?

Using the capstone + KTA vs Divine Will, though...even with a lot of gear swapping, that's a double digit loss in dcs. I'd rather keep no-fail stuns in R10.

Will mess around with feats a bit more next round on lama.


In my experience the stuns are already no fail @ 110ish. What was the before and after on the DCs if I may ask?

GL with the monk dude, I love these things
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Reply #12 - Jun 24th, 2018 at 4:46pm
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WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Jun 22nd, 2018 at 9:20pm:
In my experience the stuns are already no fail @ 110ish. What was the before and after on the DCs if I may ask?

GL with the monk dude, I love these things


That's useful info, thank you.

Before:
Stunning Fist: 118
Jade Strike/Tomb of jade: 121
Dire Charge: 123

After:
Stunning Fist: 107
Jade Strike/Tomb of jade: 110
Dire Charge: 112

Will keep playing with it, thanks for the input.
  
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