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Reply #25 - Oct 31st, 2019 at 3:04pm
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Funny timing - I was working on an update to my cleric bow build that I think spawned an earlier version of this build.     Haven't finalized the gear, yet, though.  Thought I'd post it to see if someone could maybe help with that?

I'm still not sure about 6 monk vs either 4 ranger/1 ftr, or 6 ranger.  Here's why...  Unlike a theory build, we've had some version of this build in our static party since I posted it back in 2016.  It's a solid build that ends up being our primary crowd control up to R4.  When our cleric dies, it's never spell damage or a trap.  It's always the crazy melee mobs that auto target the cleric, and slip right past the tank.  So, it seems going heavy armor/PRR and displacement beats out the cloth/evasion option for the wisdom based build.  I could be wrong, though.

15 cleric allows for death pact, and using ranger AA instead of elf allows enough AP to get T5 radiant, which means the rogue & sorc get heals passively, and the cleric never has to stop paralyzing mobs except to occasionally heal the tank/dps toons. 

Enhancement setup is completely different, obviously.   Mainly, you don't need 36 racial past lives to make this split work.  Smiley  I posted what I've got so far below. 

Domain switches to luck vs trickery.  -1 enchant DC, but gain displacement, +4 saves (+7 to party), no-fail on 1's.      

"Useful" Cleric v4.0
15/4/1 Cleric/Ranger/Fighter
Lawful Good Human


Level Order

1. Ranger          6. Cleric         11. Cleric         16. Cleric
2. Cleric          7. Cleric         12. Cleric         17. Ranger
3. Cleric          8. Cleric         13. Cleric         18. Fighter
4. Cleric          9. Ranger         14. Cleric         19. Cleric
5. Ranger         10. Cleric         15. Cleric         20. Cleric



Stats
               32pt     34pt     36pt     Tome     Level Up
               ----     ----     ----     ----     --------
Strength         8        8        8       +8       4: WIS
Dexterity       15       15       15       +8       8: WIS
Constitution    12       14       14       +8      12: WIS
Intelligence    12       12       14       +8      16: WIS
Wisdom          18       18       18       +8      20: WIS
Charisma         8        8        8       +8      24: WIS
                                                   28: WIS



Skills
          R  C  C  C  R  C  C  C  R  C  C  C  C  C  C  C  R  F  C  C
          1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
         ------------------------------------------------------------
Concent   4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
Heal      4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
Spellcr   2  1  1  1     1  2  2  2  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1     1  2  23
UMD       2  ½  ½  ½     ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½     1  ½  ½  11
         ------------------------------------------------------------
         16  4  4  4  2  4  5  5  7  4  4  4  4  4  4  4  4  6  4  5
Max      32  5  5  5  9  5  6  6 10  6  6  6  6  6  7  7 11  7  7  7



Feats

1        : Point Blank Shot
1 Human  : Precision
3        : Empower Healing Spell
6        : Quicken Spell
9        : Manyshot
12        : Spell Focus: Enchantment
15        : Greater Spell Focus: Enchantment
18        : Improved Critical: Ranged
18 Fighter: Improved Precise Shot
21 Epic   : Combat Archery
24 Epic   : Epic Spell Focus: Enchantment
26 Destiny: Guardian Angel
27 Epic   : Embolden Spell
28 Destiny: Doubleshot
29 Destiny: Mass Frog
30 Epic   : Overwhelming Critical
30 Legend : Scion of: Feywild

1 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Undead

3 Cleric : Luck Domain

2 Deity  : Follower of: Silver Flame
8 Deity  : Silver Flame Exorcism


Spells

Cleric
  • Mass Cure Critical Wounds (20), Death Pact (20)



  • Enhancements (80 AP)

    Radiant Servant (32 AP)
    • Healing Domain, Pacifism, Positive Energy Burst, Improved Empower Healing
    • Extra Turning III, Altruism III
    • Efficient Empower Healing II
    • Intense Healing III, Wisdom
    • Incredible Healing III, Wisdom
    • Positive Energy Aura

    Arcane Archer (24 AP)
    • Arcane Archer, Morphic Arrows
    • Conjure Arrows, True Strike III, Energy of the Wild I, Awareness III
    • Force Arrows II
    • Terror Arrows, Soul Magic, Wisdom
    • Banishing Arrows, Paralyzing Arrows, Smiting Arrows

    Falconry (24 AP)
    • Falcon, Wisdom
    • Rugged III, Out in Nature III
    • Killer Instinct I, Diving Shot III
    • Killer Instinct II, Strike for the Eyes: Shot III, Conditioning
    • Deadly Instinct III



    Gear is where I'm struggling.  I think you switch to flamecleansed fury set.  Here's what I've got so far.   I wanted to work in a 3 piece slavers set for +2 DC, but can't do it without losing something like the 13% doubleshot.   

    Legendary Blessed Bulwark (heavy armor):  fortification +214, physical sheltering +54, Healing Amp +85, False Life +81, green augment slot, flamecleansed set
    Legendary Hallowed Castigators (wrists):  Devotion +214, Healing Lore +31, Insightful Sheltering +27, Empower Heal II, Green augment slot, flamecleansed set
    Legendary Hallowed Trail (cloak):  Radiance +214, Radiance Lore +31, Evocation Focus +9, Quality Spell Pen +3, blue augment slot, flamecleansed set
    Legendary Kindred Pendant Necklace): Charisma +19, Enchantment Focus +8, Augment Summoning, Insightful Enchantment Focus +4, Yellow Augment Slot, Adherent of the Mists Set (Legendary)
    Legendary Celestial Topaz Ring (ring):  Nearly finished (+21 wis), wizardry +440, parrying +10, lesser displacement, yellow augment
    Legendary Shattered Onyx (ring):  Nearly finished (+10 Ins Wis), Profane spell focus 2, insightful resistance +8, insightful dodge +10, blue augment
    Legendary Black Satin Waist (belt):  Nearly Finished (+5 qual wis), Spell pen +9, Quality spell focus mastery +2, Spell resist 47, green augment
    Legendary Wallwatch Circlet (head):  Tendon slice 17, accuracy 33, reflex 17, doubleshot +13%, blue augment
    Gauntlet of the Iron Council (gloves, minor artifact): Constitution +22, Spell Resistance +52, Insightful Spell Resistance +26, Acid Absorption 53%
    Legendary Collective Sight (goggles):  Nearly finished (+21 any stat (probably dex), almost there (+10 insightful CON), quality resist +4, temperance of belief (+1 qual MRR for every religious lore feat), blue augment

    Leaves trinket & boots.  Feels like I'm still missing a few good things that need to go in these slots.  Any suggestions?
     
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    Re: Bow Cleric
    Reply #26 - Nov 1st, 2019 at 10:16am
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    wolff wrote on Oct 31st, 2019 at 3:04pm:
    I'm still not sure about 6 monk vs either 4 ranger/1 ftr, or 6 ranger.  Here's why...  Unlike a theory build, we've had some version of this build in our static party since I posted it back in 2016.  It's a solid build that ends up being our primary crowd control up to R4.  When our cleric dies, it's never spell damage or a trap.  It's always the crazy melee mobs that auto target the cleric, and slip right past the tank.  So, it seems going heavy armor/PRR and displacement beats out the cloth/evasion option for the wisdom based build.  I could be wrong, though.



    I find 38% dodge gives more survivability than a few points of PRR.

    (Max Dodge: 25 base + 2 guild + 3 reaper ap + 8 Grand Ocean stance = 38% Dodge)

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    Domain switches to luck vs trickery.  -1 enchant DC, but gain displacement, +4 saves (+7 to party), no-fail on 1's.      


    Not relying on displacement clickies would be nice.

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    Leaves trinket & boots.  Feels like I'm still missing a few good things that need to go in these slots.  Any suggestions?


    Epic Litany seems like a good idea.
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    Re: Bow Cleric
    Reply #27 - Nov 14th, 2019 at 8:49pm
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    What monk feats did you take?
    and
    When do you get zen archery?
    i took dodge on first monk feat
    CCM so far (do not mach with build)
    CMC do not march with build feats. U can not take domain on lvl 2
    Thaks and bb.


    Update: Took zen archey lvl 4

    ¿Can u put the monk feats order in the build?
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    Reply #28 - Nov 18th, 2019 at 3:13am
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    Nicone, no. That's not how you level this build. Pick up a greataxe from the grave.
      
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    Re: Bow Cleric
    Reply #29 - Nov 18th, 2019 at 1:27pm
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    Nicone wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 8:49pm:
    What monk feats did you take?
    and
    When do you get zen archery?
    i took dodge on first monk feat
    CCM so far (do not mach with build)
    CMC do not march with build feats. U can not take domain on lvl 2
    Thaks and bb.


    Update: Took zen archey lvl 4

    ¿Can u put the monk feats order in the build?


    Level 1   : Point Blank Shot
    Level 2   : Deflect Arrows
    Level 3   : Trickery Domain
    Level 3   : Completionist
    Level 4   : Zen Archery
    Level 6   : Precise Shot
    Level 6   : Fists of Light
    Level 9   : Precision
    Level 12 : Arcane Initiate
    Level 12 : 10k Stars
    Level 15 : Bardic Dilettante
    Level 18 : Improved Precise Shot
    Level 21 : Master of Forms
    Level 24 : Grand Master of Forms
    Level 26 : Epic Spellpower Positive
    Level 27 : Spell Focus Enchantment
    Level 28 : Mass Frog
    Level 29 : Doubleshot
    Level 30 : Greater Spell Focus Enchantment
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    Re: Bow Cleric
    Reply #30 - Nov 18th, 2019 at 1:54pm
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    Every single shred of DPS sacrificed for DCs would work - FOR A PALE FUCKING MASTER or a GODDAMN SORC!
      

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    Reply #31 - Nov 18th, 2019 at 2:31pm
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    Alex DeLarge wrote on Nov 18th, 2019 at 1:54pm:
    Every single shred of DPS sacrificed for DCs would work - FOR A PALE FUCKING MASTER or a GODDAMN SORC!


    So...you like CC casters? That's cool. This is a CC caster too.
      

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    Reply #32 - Nov 19th, 2019 at 3:57pm
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    5 Foot Step wrote on Nov 1st, 2019 at 10:16am:
    I find 38% dodge gives more survivability than a few points of PRR.

    (Max Dodge: 25 base + 2 guild + 3 reaper ap + 8 Grand Ocean stance = 38% Dodge)


    Not relying on displacement clickies would be nice.


    Epic Litany seems like a good idea.

    thanks you so much!
    Build is doing great so far in r2 heroic!

    PD: mess it up with quote... lol
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    Re: Bow Cleric
    Reply #33 - Nov 20th, 2019 at 4:23pm
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    I love the Cleric. I love to fuck you up before you die.

    Shame I don't have a bucket full of Racial AP's to unlock AA before I even get dressed in the morning.

    I do have 83 AP's though. Thanks for sharing your work  Smiley.
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    Reply #34 - Nov 21st, 2019 at 9:57am
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    I think you could get by with 81 AP: 41 AA, 26 falcon, 14 elf. Obviously more is better.
      

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    Reply #35 - Nov 24th, 2019 at 8:22am
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    You don't need Falconer on this. Fvs > Cleric
      
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    Reply #36 - Nov 25th, 2019 at 9:29am
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    Linker wrote on Nov 24th, 2019 at 8:22am:
    You don't need Falconer on this. Fvs > Cleric


    Breakdown a higher DC or gtfo.
      

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    Reply #37 - Nov 25th, 2019 at 3:33pm
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    r10 viable, broken through, full split with 10k stars I've already thrown.
      
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    Reply #38 - Nov 26th, 2019 at 9:55am
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    Linker wrote on Nov 25th, 2019 at 3:33pm:
    r10 viable, broken through, full split with 10k stars I've already thrown.


    You cited 100 "effective" DC in the post you linked to earlier.

    That's hot garbage compared to this build. 126 DC *before* debuffs.
      

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    Reply #39 - Jun 5th, 2020 at 2:31am
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    Going to be using a bunch of this for a leveling cleric. A bit more of my style than the very effective fire cleric build, this looks really fun! Thanks Five Foot Step!
      
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    Reply #40 - Jun 5th, 2020 at 5:34am
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    point blank shot yourself in the fucking temple sideways and use an otto's stone
      
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