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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9185 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Icebard, post Feywild? Jan 24^th, 2021 at 1:42pm	Print Post
	So the Icebard build was a lot of fun, except you had to stare at an ugly PDK in order to use it. Now that Feywild has introduced the Feydark Illusionist tree, has anyone though to revisit this build on a more attractive race?

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Nubicus Dragon Raider Offline Dick 2020 Posts: 232 Joined: Apr 22^nd, 2012	Re: Icebard, post Feywild? Reply #1 - Jan 24^th, 2021 at 3:15pm	Print Post
	I've thought about trying it. I enjoyed the play style back in the day (Pre-Reaper). However, I don't know which route to go. THF Seems fun, but I don't know the build is every going to be high-tier AOE damage. I'm thinking about potentially single weapon fighting w/ a buckler like the old Fire and Ice build.


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Snu Snu Shroud Slacker Offline Drama is boring Posts: 1054 Joined: Sep 10^th, 2012	Re: Icebard, post Feywild? Reply #2 - Jan 24^th, 2021 at 3:22pm	Print Post
	ddowiki.com + excel sheet You are welcome.

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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9185 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Icebard, post Feywild? Reply #3 - Jan 24^th, 2021 at 3:25pm	Print Post
	Nubicus wrote on Jan 24^th, 2021 at 3:15pm: I've thought about trying it. I enjoyed the play style back in the day (Pre-Reaper). However, I don't know which route to go. THF Seems fun, but I don't know the build is every going to be high-tier AOE damage. I'm thinking about potentially single weapon fighting w/ a buckler like the old Fire and Ice build. For the icebard you definitely do swashbuckling/swf, the goal is max possible attack speed to maximize freezing procs.

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crunch Stormreaver Piker Offline Posts: 745 Location: Europe Joined: Mar 20^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Icebard, post Feywild? Reply #4 - Jan 26^th, 2021 at 10:44am	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Jan 24^th, 2021 at 3:25pm: the goal is max possible attack speed to maximize freezing procs. huh? no.


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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9185 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Icebard, post Feywild? Reply #5 - Jan 26^th, 2021 at 12:35pm	Print Post
	crunch wrote on Jan 26^th, 2021 at 10:44am: huh? no. Are we thinking of different builds, then?

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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Icebard, post Feywild? Reply #6 - Jan 29^th, 2021 at 12:27pm	Print Post
	Been thinking about bard. Of course it would be a 13 bard/6 barb/1 FvS DPS (15-20x5 handaxe) bard that just happens to have just enough points in Warchanter to get Frozen Fury rather than whatever build you're thinking of. Undecided on race. Probably Tiefling Scoundrel since they get +Cha and handaxe enhancements. But open to suggestions.

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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9185 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Icebard, post Feywild? Reply #7 - Jan 29^th, 2021 at 2:50pm	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Jan 29^th, 2021 at 12:27pm: Been thinking about bard. Of course it would be a 13 bard/6 barb/1 FvS DPS (15-20x5 handaxe) bard that just happens to have just enough points in Warchanter to get Frozen Fury rather than whatever build you're thinking of. Undecided on race. Probably Tiefling Scoundrel since they get +Cha and handaxe enhancements. But open to suggestions. Are you thinking cha-based?

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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Icebard, post Feywild? Reply #8 - Jan 29^th, 2021 at 4:47pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Jan 29^th, 2021 at 2:50pm: Are you thinking cha-based? Of course.

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S_O_B Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 207 Joined: Aug 25^th, 2015	Re: Icebard, post Feywild? Reply #9 - Mar 2^nd, 2021 at 1:12pm	Print Post
	Looking for a new build to run a couple lives on, next week or so. did you think any more on this? you might have teased enough ideas for most people to get a build, but I need the No-Brainer class.


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Head-Meat 57%Misunderstood53%Moron Offline Subtle. I know. Posts: 9411 Joined: Nov 11^th, 2016	Re: Icebard, post Feywild? Reply #10 - Mar 2^nd, 2021 at 2:02pm	Print Post
	Stratis on Khyber--in the last meta at least--found light mace + Shadarkai to be better deeps due to the stacking crit enh. But, maybe the new handaxe and other changes to swf make that different.

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Charon Ex Member	Re: Icebard, post Feywild? Reply #11 - Mar 2^nd, 2021 at 2:11pm	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Jan 29^th, 2021 at 12:27pm: Been thinking about bard. Of course it would be a 13 bard/6 barb/1 FvS DPS (15-20x5 handaxe) bard that just happens to have just enough points in Warchanter to get Frozen Fury rather than whatever build you're thinking of. Undecided on race. Probably Tiefling Scoundrel since they get +Cha and handaxe enhancements. But open to suggestions. Is this the best split for bard? barb for rage and FB? then fvs for nightshield and a battle trance? Sorry bard is one of the lives I have coming up and I'm just starting to look into where they are at currently.


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S_O_B Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 207 Joined: Aug 25^th, 2015	Re: Icebard, post Feywild? Reply #12 - Mar 2^nd, 2021 at 2:57pm	Print Post
	I plan to get my final EPL's on that toon. Iconic might be the best build, but my plan is to drop a tier below that and run 1-30, some reapers, rinse and repeat. I fit more into the mediocre range anyway


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johnnyonthespot Korthos Resident Offline I Do Cocaine Posts: 68 Location: La Grange Joined: Jun 30^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Icebard, post Feywild? Reply #13 - Mar 2^nd, 2021 at 6:43pm	Print Post
	There was real good build of an 18Br/1Ftr/1Clr that was posted on the forums not to long ago. He went Scourge for the 1xcrit modifier to light mace. If I rolled one this is definitely how I would go Cha to hit in Feywild, Cha to damage in Swash. 17-20 x4 19-20x3 on a light mace


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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9185 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Icebard, post Feywild? Reply #14 - Mar 2^nd, 2021 at 8:17pm	Print Post
	johnnyonthespot wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2021 at 6:43pm: There was real good build of an 18Br/1Ftr/1Clr that was posted on the forums not to long ago. He went Scourge for the 1xcrit modifier to light mace. If I rolled one this is definitely how I would go Cha to hit in Feywild, Cha to damage in Swash. 17-20 x4 19-20x3 on a light mace Whats they prefered light mace for this scenario?

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johnnyonthespot Korthos Resident Offline I Do Cocaine Posts: 68 Location: La Grange Joined: Jun 30^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Icebard, post Feywild? Reply #15 - Mar 3^rd, 2021 at 8:27am	Print Post
	Im pretty sure he was using a Lightning Coil because it has 2 slots and the highest base damage rating. He would switch out to the Labyrinth's Edge for a Boss beater.


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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Icebard, post Feywild? Reply #16 - Mar 3^rd, 2021 at 9:58am	Print Post
	S_O_B wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2021 at 1:12pm: Looking for a new build to run a couple lives on, next week or so. did you think any more on this? you might have teased enough ideas for most people to get a build, but I need the No-Brainer class. Sorry, been busy johnnyonthespot wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2021 at 6:43pm: 17-20 x4 19-20x3 on a light mace That can't be right. Swash alone (with keen/imp crit) is 15-20x3. Scourge makes it 15-20x4. LD or DC can get 14-20x4. A named items with expanded crit multi (Skullsmasher) can make it 14-20x5. noamineo wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2021 at 8:17pm: Whats they prefered light mace for this scenario? The light mace for leveling is Skullsmasher.

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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9185 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Icebard, post Feywild? Reply #17 - Mar 3^rd, 2021 at 6:57pm	Print Post
	Neat. Probably can't be that tough to get an EE ml25 skullsmasher.

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johnnyonthespot Korthos Resident Offline I Do Cocaine Posts: 68 Location: La Grange Joined: Jun 30^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Icebard, post Feywild? Reply #18 - Mar 4^th, 2021 at 9:52am	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2021 at 9:58am: Sorry, been busy That can't be right. Swash alone (with keen/imp crit) is 15-20x3. Scourge makes it 15-20x4. LD or DC can get 14-20x4. A named items with expanded crit multi (Skullsmasher) can make it 14-20x5. The light mace for leveling is Skullsmasher. Im sure your right, Ive never run the build. So its even better than I thought.


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Head-Meat 57%Misunderstood53%Moron Offline Subtle. I know. Posts: 9411 Joined: Nov 11^th, 2016	Re: Icebard, post Feywild? Reply #19 - Mar 4^th, 2021 at 5:25pm	Print Post
	johnnyonthespot wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2021 at 8:27am: Im pretty sure he was using a Lightning Coil because it has 2 slots and the highest base damage rating. He would switch out to the Labyrinth's Edge for a Boss beater. Strat used lightning coil as well. I'm only talking endgame. No idea about leveling.

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Justanotherlurker Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 384 Joined: Jun 20^th, 2014	Re: Icebard, post Feywild? Reply #20 - Mar 4^th, 2021 at 7:37pm	Print Post
	Head-Meat wrote on Mar 4^th, 2021 at 5:25pm: Strat used lightning coil as well. I'm only talking endgame. No idea about leveling. That's because you idiots are talking about the same person. Stratis is the one who posted his build on the forums recently.


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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9185 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Icebard, post Feywild? Reply #21 - Mar 4^th, 2021 at 9:24pm	Print Post
	Head-Meat wrote on Mar 4^th, 2021 at 5:25pm: Strat used lightning coil as well. I'm only talking endgame. No idea about leveling. ? Why would he use a caster stick?

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Charon Ex Member	Re: Icebard, post Feywild? Reply #22 - Mar 4^th, 2021 at 10:54pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Mar 4^th, 2021 at 9:24pm: Why would he use a caster stick? johnnyonthespot wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2021 at 8:27am: Im pretty sure he was using a Lightning Coil because it has 2 slots and the highest base damage rating. He would switch out to the Labyrinth's Edge for a Boss beater.


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Head-Meat 57%Misunderstood53%Moron Offline Subtle. I know. Posts: 9411 Joined: Nov 11^th, 2016	Re: Icebard, post Feywild? Reply #23 - Mar 5^th, 2021 at 9:20pm	Print Post
	Justanotherlurker wrote on Mar 4^th, 2021 at 7:37pm: you idiots Guilty

	Strake wrote on Mar 31^st, 2020 at 1:51pm: Like every group, there are schlubs and there are stars, and a lot in between. Pick your cause and I can say the same thing about the associated group. Gunga wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 2:27am: Bitcoin. lul --Who is luling in March 2025? Proud FORCCer
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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Icebard, post Feywild? Reply #24 - Mar 8^th, 2021 at 12:15pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Mar 4^th, 2021 at 9:24pm: ? Why would he use a caster stick? There's no raid tier dps light mace option so it's lightning coil's extra dice weight and a slot vs the procs on the generic endgame weapons (Morninglord, Nightmother, Syranian, Ferrocrystal)

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