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Reply #75 - Oct 13th, 2021 at 6:36pm
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Shinyshoes wrote on Oct 13th, 2021 at 4:44pm:
I haven't been playing much in the last year and have just made it back to cap after the gear nerf. Wow they hit that shit hard. Were they trying to make cannith crafting relevant to endgame again? The changes to the numbers were pretty large.


The stated goal is to level everything out. Before, Sharn gear was just objectively better than Ravenloft. They wanted everything to be on par(which all tolled is not a terrible concept). They're also trying to provide "a more linear progression".

Left unsaid is the obvious intention: rob power from the game to sell back in a later expansion, buried behind a paywall and unscalable grind-wall.
  

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Reply #76 - Oct 14th, 2021 at 4:15am
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noamineo wrote on Oct 13th, 2021 at 6:36pm:
The stated goal is to level everything out. Before, Sharn gear was just objectively better than Ravenloft. They wanted everything to be on par(which all tolled is not a terrible concept). They're also trying to provide "a more linear progression".


Sharn gear was objectively better than Ravenloft gear hence players
bought the expansion to get the new BIS gear.  Now, post squish,
it's not better.  That's the bullshit that they don't seem to get.

The whole concept is retarded IMO anyway - it's just numbers.  Why risk
pissing off so many people in a 15 year old game which is hanging on
by the skin of its teeth? Do they genuinely think fucking over the loot
and constantly 'fixing' systems is going to A) keep people playing B)
attract new players to the game?  I mean some people would keep playing
if you deleted all of their characters and kicked them in the balls every
time they logged in.  U50 and U51 ARE going to lose players though and,
based on playeraudit, they don't have players to lose.

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Left unsaid is the obvious intention: rob power from the game to sell back in a later expansion, buried behind a paywall and unscalable grind-wall.


Not everyone will fall for this though, thankfully.  There are more than
the usual complaints on the forums over U50 and the reception to U51
for the most part has been frosty.  Adding more levels to spread the
currently paltry playerbase over seems like a bad move but what do I
know.
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Reply #77 - Oct 14th, 2021 at 4:39am
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For context, the game is currently averaging ~1700 players on its
busiest day of the week (Sunday).  This is lowest in the last 3 months.
The weekly average is ~1400 which is lower than it was before the
ddo free code.
  
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Reply #78 - Oct 14th, 2021 at 5:31am
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knockcocker wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 4:39am:
For context, the game is currently averaging ~1700 players on its
busiest day of the week (Sunday).  This is lowest in the last 3 months.
The weekly average is ~1400 which is lower than it was before the
ddo free code.

Because a shit load of players are bored as fuck and have left and found ff14. They failed to deliver and look after the end-game whales. Once you play a real MMO with fuck all lag, fuck all excuses, incredible gameplay, and mechanics, you won't be back. Never will DDO get anywhere near the polish of other MMO's.
  
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Reply #79 - Oct 14th, 2021 at 8:14am
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Spandex wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 5:31am:
Because a shit load of players are bored as fuck and have left and found ff14. They failed to deliver and look after the end-game whales. Once you play a real MMO with fuck all lag, fuck all excuses, incredible gameplay, and mechanics, you won't be back. Never will DDO get anywhere near the polish of other MMO's.


I don't disagree.  Given this backdrop, I cannot fathom why they are spending
so much time fundamentally altering game mechanics and crapping all over
player's loot.  Do they really think these changes are going to pull in new players?

I've seen this so often at work.  Engineers continuing to develop
moribund products until customers say 'what the fuck are you doing,
put it back the way it was!'
  
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Reply #80 - Oct 14th, 2021 at 12:18pm
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And theres nothing else in update 51 right?  Did i read it correct?  No new raid, no quests?  So everyone aT cap just sitting, waiting, and we get another nerf and nothing to do?

oh you can buy Nightmare's in the store now.  Not a raid drop, not a rare color ingredient to customize your nightmare, not a single new or interesting idea from these guys ever.

Ride your pretty pony around the empty halls, hear the hooves echo.

  
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Reply #81 - Oct 14th, 2021 at 12:26pm
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knockcocker wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 8:14am:
Do they really think these changes are going to pull in new players?

Of course they do not. Does anyone think they really care about new players and retention of new players? You would have to be stupid or stupid and lying to yourself if you thought anything they do is for new players. And anyone who thinks it is about balance is also beyond stupid, naive, and lying to themselves. In the words of Jay-Z "You're a customer, homie"

How can you balance if you sell ways to bypass balance in your store. You can buy cakes if you die, you can buy stones if you want to amass lives, you can chug sp pots, you can buy the best healing pots. WTF are you actually balancing then.

The ED pass coming in u51 is gutting anyone who doesn't have 40+ epic lives. Right now on live, my melee alt without any lives can pick up tier 5 in LD, or fatesinger, or fury, with a real epic moment and have decent power in quests and easy raids. When u51 drops I will have one destiny tree? With a shittastic epic momement? My stats will be way down, melee power gutted unless I have 40 epic lives to pick up all the cores from the 2 other trees. It's going to be hilarious for people with characters like my alt.

  

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Reply #82 - Oct 14th, 2021 at 1:32pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 12:26pm:
Of course they do not. Does anyone think they really care about new players and retention of new players? You would have to be stupid or stupid and lying to yourself if you thought anything they do is for new players. And anyone who thinks it is about balance is also beyond stupid, naive, and lying to themselves. In the words of Jay-Z "You're a customer, homie"

How can you balance if you sell ways to bypass balance in your store. You can buy cakes if you die, you can buy stones if you want to amass lives, you can chug sp pots, you can buy the best healing pots. WTF are you actually balancing then.

The ED pass coming in u51 is gutting anyone who doesn't have 40+ epic lives. Right now on live, my melee alt without any lives can pick up tier 5 in LD, or fatesinger, or fury, with a real epic moment and have decent power in quests and easy raids. When u51 drops I will have one destiny tree? With a shittastic epic momement? My stats will be way down, melee power gutted unless I have 40 epic lives to pick up all the cores from the 2 other trees. It's going to be hilarious for people with characters like my alt.



Sure, I totally agree with all of that.  I just put it in the same category as self
cannabilsm being a piss poor way to solve hunger.  Losing any players is bad
yet they seem more than prepared to do it - are they all shorting EG7 stock
or something? Wink.  It 'feels' like NIH (not invented here) syndrome and, based
on Steelstar's public utterances, it kind of fits.
  
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Reply #83 - Oct 14th, 2021 at 2:15pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 12:26pm:
When u51 drops I will have one destiny tree?

One thing, lvl cap gonna raise pretty soon so there will be more points to spend at lvl 32, then 35, then 38, then 40 [at 40 you'll have twice that at lvl 30]. Those new ED's were designed to work with raising lvl cap (especially cores that will be a ultimate things at lvls 32, 38 and 40)
  

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Reply #84 - Oct 14th, 2021 at 2:23pm
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And look for the Epic Points to be for sale very shortly after 51. +1, upgrade +1 to +2 etc.

Probably going to see +10 tomes soon for sale.

Nobody wanted a cap increase, nobody wanted level gated destinies, nobody wanted the end game gear they farmed to get nerfed.

But 3 lefts make a right.
  

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Reply #85 - Oct 14th, 2021 at 2:31pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 12:26pm:
It's going to be hilarious for people with characters like my alt.


Which - realistically - represents a large portion of he player base. All the new players who just picked up the game, all the casuals, whole stables of alts, and the purists who just don't TR(they're out there and there's a fair number of them). Yes, a certain percentage of DDO's population can go from 1-20 in a day. The large majority of us need a couple of weeks.

It'll be interesting to see SSG try and run a game that caters strictly to "play as a second job whales".
  

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Reply #86 - Oct 14th, 2021 at 4:27pm
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So Rubbins writes:

Rubbinns wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 12:26pm:
Of course they do not. Does anyone think they really care about new players and retention of new players? You would have to be stupid or stupid and lying to yourself if you thought anything they do is for new players.



And ever-fucking blathering boy's take away?

noamineo wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 2:31pm:
Which - realistically - represents a large portion of he player base. All the new players who just picked up the game, all the casuals, whole stables of alts, and the purists who just don't TR(they're out there and there's a fair number of them). Yes, a certain percentage of DDO's population can go from 1-20 in a day. The large majority of us need a couple of weeks.

It'll be interesting to see SSG try and run a game that caters strictly to "play as a second job whales".



I swear to god Nomoreo, your level of willful ignorance, and selective reading of posts you can't debate is almost as impressive as it is self-defeating... you silly fuckwit.
  

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Reply #87 - Oct 14th, 2021 at 5:35pm
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And queue the free quest code, to suck a whole bunch of new people in...
  
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Reply #88 - Oct 14th, 2021 at 6:26pm
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Shinyshoes wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 5:35pm:
And queue the free quest code, to suck a whole bunch of new people in...


Maybe.  I'm wondering how many of those 'new' players last time were just
alt accounts.
  
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Reply #89 - Oct 14th, 2021 at 6:38pm
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knockcocker wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 6:26pm:
Maybe.  I'm wondering how many of those 'new' players last time were just
alt accounts.


Perhaps they are trying to offset the RMT account sales.... but more likely is the lightbulb moment of hey last time we did this numbers went up... Let's do it again.
Interestingly it would appear that they have released one quest pack but two expansions since the last code.
Definitive sign of the way forward I suspect.
  
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Reply #90 - Oct 14th, 2021 at 9:57pm
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knockcocker wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 6:26pm:
Maybe.  I'm wondering how many of those 'new' players last time were just
alt accounts.


At least 5 of them, I can attest.
  

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Reply #91 - Oct 15th, 2021 at 5:29am
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knockcocker wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 6:26pm:
Maybe.  I'm wondering how many of those 'new' players last time were just
alt accounts.


I made 5.  Gave 2 away to guys who missed the deadline.  Still have 3 banking stuff.  Might do a couple of more this time around.
  
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Reply #92 - Oct 15th, 2021 at 6:53pm
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Reply #93 - Oct 15th, 2021 at 7:36pm
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Notanarc wrote on Oct 15th, 2021 at 5:29am:
I made 5.  Gave 2 away to guys who missed the deadline.  Still have 3 banking stuff.  Might do a couple of more this time around.


I made 5 for farming purposes. During the window when Sharn was open to all it made getting some of the loot gobs easier(still had to run House of Pain about 200 times to get the fucking Family Recruit Sigil). Now that Ravenloft is 99 points I'll be taking the farm team out there for some loot.



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