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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: DDO Mobos: all our characters are more powerful Reply #25 - Nov 29^th, 2021 at 1:51pm	Print Post
	Casters are better. DCs are lower but who cares, saves dropped more. Nukers are better. Ranged toons are broken good. Leveling one 20-30 was an absolute pleasure. Melee DPS is up, but I miss many of the intangibles that we lost like Balanced Attacks, Meld, and the thingy in LD that let you chain action boosts together. I'm old and retarded so I don't adapt well to change, but a few weeks later it's fun again.


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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9185 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: DDO Mobos: all our characters are more powerful Reply #26 - Nov 29^th, 2021 at 2:16pm	Print Post
	Bigjunk wrote on Nov 29^th, 2021 at 1:51pm: Casters are better. DCs are lower but who cares, saves dropped more. Nukers are better. Ranged toons are broken good. Leveling one 20-30 was an absolute pleasure. Melee DPS is up, but I miss many of the intangibles that we lost like Balanced Attacks, Meld, and the thingy in LD that let you chain action boosts together. I'm old and retarded so I don't adapt well to change, but a few weeks later it's fun again. Nukers are "better" post U51 than they were post U50 but still not as good as pre-U50. Let's put it this way - I used to be able to wipe out a whole group of trash mobs on R1 in a single meteor swarm, alternating between meteor swarm & Delayed Blast Fireball for DPS. All other spells I casted were for fun. Now I need a 4-spell rotation and usually have to resort to Ruin/Greater Ruin even on trash. There's definitely a lot less fun now, but the style is still viable. DC casters are fucked even worse. Yes its possible to hit the DCs on higher Reaper levels IF you are a thruple-completionist with all racials/EPLs/40 virgins/etc/etc/etc. Try hitting the DCs on a first-lifer sometime. I wouldn't say ranged has changed all that much but my only ranged is a GXB build. He comes out to play when I feel like playing "yakkity sax" on infinite loop. Tell me more about melees. I think I'd like to have one that can do EE.

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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: DDO Mobos: all our characters are more powerful Reply #27 - Nov 29^th, 2021 at 4:45pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Nov 29^th, 2021 at 2:16pm: Tell me more about melees. I think I'd like to have one that can do EE. I'm still soloing R5+s at cap on a sub-par build. And I'm old and retarded.


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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9185 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: DDO Mobos: all our characters are more powerful Reply #28 - Nov 29^th, 2021 at 4:48pm	Print Post
	Bigjunk wrote on Nov 29^th, 2021 at 4:45pm: I'm still soloing R5+s at cap on a sub-par build. And I'm old and retarded. Care to share the build? You know. For Science.

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Dragonborn Shroud Slacker Offline Savaging the masses... one dumbfuck at a time Posts: 1243 Joined: Jul 25^th, 2020	Re: DDO Mobos: all our characters are more powerful Reply #29 - Nov 29^th, 2021 at 4:53pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Nov 29^th, 2021 at 4:48pm: Care to share the build? You know. For Science. Yes there he is again folks, the Vault's very on moron asking for people to explain the game to him. How many times is it that this month Nomero? lol!

	noamineo wrote on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 12:04pm: Sadly only scammers are "selling" boxes now. But if you do want to get scammed, I know a guy. OSeanessy wrote on Dec 26^th, 2021 at 6:03am: Just for the record, I bought ten stones from Dragonborn a few days back. Fair and civil trade which went smoothly
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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: DDO Mobos: all our characters are more powerful Reply #30 - Nov 29^th, 2021 at 4:54pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Nov 29^th, 2021 at 4:48pm: Care to share the build? You know. For Science. The same "Shitty Tempest" I've been playing since 2009.


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Gunga Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Fuck You. Posts: 9519 Location: New Jersey Joined: Aug 14^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: DDO Mobos: all our characters are more powerful Reply #31 - Nov 29^th, 2021 at 5:01pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Nov 29^th, 2021 at 2:16pm: Nukers are "better" post U51 than they were post U50 but still not as good as pre-U50. Let's put it this way - I used to be able to wipe out a whole group of trash mobs on R1 in a single meteor swarm, alternating between meteor swarm & Delayed Blast Fireball for DPS. All other spells I casted were for fun. Now I need a 4-spell rotation and usually have to resort to Ruin/Greater Ruin even on trash. There's definitely a lot less fun now, but the style is still viable. DC casters are fucked even worse. Yes its possible to hit the DCs on higher Reaper levels IF you are a thruple-completionist with all racials/EPLs/40 virgins/etc/etc/etc. Try hitting the DCs on a first-lifer sometime. I wouldn't say ranged has changed all that much but my only ranged is a GXB build. He comes out to play when I feel like playing "yakkity sax" on infinite loop. Tell me more about melees. I think I'd like to have one that can do EE. FYI, there are more spells than meteor swarm and dbf.

	Smrti wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2013 at 3:00pm: Gunga is the best.
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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9185 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: DDO Mobos: all our characters are more powerful Reply #32 - Nov 29^th, 2021 at 5:25pm	Print Post
	Gunga wrote on Nov 29^th, 2021 at 5:01pm: FYI, there are more spells than meteor swarm and dbf. I have been made painfully aware of this by the massive nerfs to meteor swarm. That was kind of my complaint - casting those other spells is not as much fun as meteor swarm.

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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Gunga Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Fuck You. Posts: 9519 Location: New Jersey Joined: Aug 14^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: DDO Mobos: all our characters are more powerful Reply #33 - Nov 29^th, 2021 at 6:00pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Nov 29^th, 2021 at 5:25pm: I have been made painfully aware of this by the massive nerfs to meteor swarm. That was kind of my complaint - casting those other spells is not as much fun as meteor swarm. So then, you should say, "My two button nuker has died. Long live the four button nuker!"

	Smrti wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2013 at 3:00pm: Gunga is the best.
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: DDO Mobos: all our characters are more powerful Reply #34 - Nov 29^th, 2021 at 6:12pm	Print Post
	Bigjunk wrote on Nov 29^th, 2021 at 4:45pm: I'm still soloing R5+s at cap on a sub-par build. And I'm old and retarded. But lovable with a great sense of humor!
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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9185 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: DDO Mobos: all our characters are more powerful Reply #35 - Nov 29^th, 2021 at 6:49pm	Print Post
	Gunga wrote on Nov 29^th, 2021 at 6:00pm: So then, you should say, "My two button nuker has died. Long live the four button nuker!" My two-button nuker has died. LONG LIVE THE FOUR BUTTON NUKER!!!! I complain but I am still playing.

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 10011 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: DDO Mobos: all our characters are more powerful Reply #36 - Nov 30^th, 2021 at 1:12pm	Print Post
	after a few monday adventures, I came to the following conclusion when it comes to my gimp static group wizard. - I still die a lot - I'm still as squishy as before. - My Disco Balls are working much much much better, so much better that it lands on almost all the mob even on Elite. ( at level ) That's something that almost never worked before. - I'm still as gimpy as I was before, but at least now I can control some crowds. - Overall the static group characters got some stuff that are better and others that are worse... like my gimp. The whole point being that some characters might have benefited from the Destiny Crash and other might have completely been broken by it.

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Linker Dragon Raider Offline It's all the same Posts: 212 Joined: Jan 29^th, 2019	Re: DDO Mobos: all our characters are more powerful Reply #37 - Nov 30^th, 2021 at 1:28pm	Print Post
	Anyone saying nukers got buffed by U51 is hallucinating. Mobs got nerfed, nukers didn't get buffed. If you're running exalted, your main twist in burst does half damage on higher CD. If you're running Draconic you can't twist the old 15% CD from magus. These are single twists and they're better than all of the shit takes I see on this thread. Just this 1 twist slot out does 15 points in any tree. Brainless take.


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Shinyshoes Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 754 Joined: Mar 8^th, 2019	Re: DDO Mobos: all our characters are more powerful Reply #38 - Nov 30^th, 2021 at 3:05pm	Print Post
	Linker wrote on Nov 30^th, 2021 at 1:28pm: Mobs got nerfed, This is the key point. This is the only reason things feel good. Enjoy it while it lasts.


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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9185 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: DDO Mobos: all our characters are more powerful Reply #39 - Nov 30^th, 2021 at 3:26pm	Print Post
	Shinyshoes wrote on Nov 30^th, 2021 at 3:05pm: This is the key point. This is the only reason things feel good. Enjoy it while it lasts. Supposedly the mob nerf is forever. But remember this whole thing was just a massive build-up to increasing the level cap. Take away all the power we had so they can sell it back to us in future expansions.

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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Shinyshoes Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 754 Joined: Mar 8^th, 2019	Re: DDO Mobos: all our characters are more powerful Reply #40 - Nov 30^th, 2021 at 7:35pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Nov 30^th, 2021 at 3:26pm: Supposedly the mob nerf is forever. But remember this whole thing was just a massive build-up to increasing the level cap. Take away all the power we had so they can sell it back to us in future expansions. C'mon bro, you can do better. When was the last time they made something easier and left it that way? Ravenloft power creep. Sharn power creep. Inquisitive. Warlocks. Monks. The list goes on.


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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9185 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: DDO Mobos: all our characters are more powerful Reply #41 - Nov 30^th, 2021 at 7:48pm	Print Post
	Shinyshoes wrote on Nov 30^th, 2021 at 7:35pm: C'mon bro, you can do better. When was the last time they made something easier and left it that way? Ravenloft power creep. Sharn power creep. Inquisitive. Warlocks. Monks. The list goes on. Your examples weren't "making it easier" they are all examples of releasing something too powerful than nerfing the crap out of it. Also my understanding is R10 is still difficult, and really so long as only a subset of the player base wants to fuck around with that bullshit and tell SSG its hard enough, the rest of us will get left alone.

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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Head-Meat 57%Misunderstood53%Moron Offline Subtle. I know. Posts: 9411 Joined: Nov 11^th, 2016	Re: DDO Mobos: all our characters are more powerful Reply #42 - Nov 30^th, 2021 at 7:59pm	Print Post
	Gunga wrote on Nov 29^th, 2021 at 5:01pm: FYI, there are more spells than meteor swarm and dbf. Lies. EDIT: Oh Yeah! The fireball SLA. Might as well add that in for good measure.
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	Strake wrote on Mar 31^st, 2020 at 1:51pm: Like every group, there are schlubs and there are stars, and a lot in between. Pick your cause and I can say the same thing about the associated group. Gunga wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 2:27am: Bitcoin. lul --Who is luling in March 2025? Proud FORCCer
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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9185 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: DDO Mobos: all our characters are more powerful Reply #43 - Nov 30^th, 2021 at 8:02pm	Print Post
	Head-Meat wrote on Nov 30^th, 2021 at 7:59pm: Lies. EDIT: Oh Yeah! The fireball SLA. Might as well add that in for good measure. So maybe its me - but it seems like the fireball SLA doesn't get the benefit of all the CD reducing effects? I had it on rotation for a while alongside regular fireball and it did not work great.

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: DDO Mobos: all our characters are more powerful Reply #44 - Dec 3^rd, 2021 at 1:26pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Nov 30^th, 2021 at 8:02pm: So maybe its me - but it seems like the fireball SLA doesn't get the benefit of all the CD reducing effects? I had it on rotation for a while alongside regular fireball and it did not work great. SLAs never did in the past. Haven't tested all of the new stuff.

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Linker Dragon Raider Offline It's all the same Posts: 212 Joined: Jan 29^th, 2019	Re: DDO Mobos: all our characters are more powerful Reply #45 - Dec 3^rd, 2021 at 2:01pm	Print Post
	SLAs dont get cooldown reductions They never did, they never will This is fucking over sorcerers by design The design being you can design a CC bot or go fuck yourself


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Cripey Shroud Slacker Offline Fuck you, thats my name. Posts: 1007 Joined: Jul 21^st, 2010 Gender:	Re: DDO Mobos: all our characters are more powerful Reply #46 - Dec 3^rd, 2021 at 2:11pm	Print Post
	Linker wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2021 at 2:01pm: SLAs dont get cooldown reductions They never did, they never will This is fucking over sorcerers by design The design being you can design a CC bot or go fuck yourself I mean.. if you're a shitter that cant cc and dps on a sorc then yes, go fuck yourself.

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Linker Dragon Raider Offline It's all the same Posts: 212 Joined: Jan 29^th, 2019	Re: DDO Mobos: all our characters are more powerful Reply #47 - Dec 3^rd, 2021 at 2:16pm	Print Post
	Cripey wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2021 at 2:11pm: I mean.. if you're a shitter that cant cc and dps on a sorc then yes, go fuck yourself. CC's good, for sure - Sorc DPS is trash compared to melees, even archers. Dumpster fire, garbagio. Sorc to wolf damage ratio passed the red line at 1:3 at U48, and kept moving south since. Fuck SSG, nukers are the only enjoyable playstyle endgame and they hate it because of that


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Gunga Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Fuck You. Posts: 9519 Location: New Jersey Joined: Aug 14^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: DDO Mobos: all our characters are more powerful Reply #48 - Dec 3^rd, 2021 at 3:13pm	Print Post
	Head-Meat wrote on Nov 30^th, 2021 at 7:59pm: Lies. EDIT: Oh Yeah! The fireball SLA. Might as well add that in for good measure. And for you only, a meathead exclusive: There are also more elements.

	Smrti wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2013 at 3:00pm: Gunga is the best.
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Head-Meat 57%Misunderstood53%Moron Offline Subtle. I know. Posts: 9411 Joined: Nov 11^th, 2016	Re: DDO Mobos: all our characters are more powerful Reply #49 - Dec 3^rd, 2021 at 7:18pm	Print Post
	Gunga wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2021 at 3:13pm: There are also more elements. I guess. I mean, technically copper exists in game as does gold. But gold dps is garbage. I'm the best.
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	Strake wrote on Mar 31^st, 2020 at 1:51pm: Like every group, there are schlubs and there are stars, and a lot in between. Pick your cause and I can say the same thing about the associated group. Gunga wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 2:27am: Bitcoin. lul --Who is luling in March 2025? Proud FORCCer
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