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Reply #25 - Nov 27th, 2021 at 3:21pm
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FUCK. FUCK. FUCK.

So, took my disjuncted Legendary gem, added a CC ML shard and an effect.

Back to the altar in the 12, another endless round of trying to get the ret combo, finally found it, applied it.

Guess what happened?

It fucking removed the CC keying/effect.


So far as I can tell it is not physically possible to use the Legendary Gem of Many Facets without expending tens of thousands of threads of fate and dozens of hours schleping back and forth(since re-disjuncting it does not re-roll it).

So FUCK.

I'm out 450 threads and am very mad.
  

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Reply #26 - Nov 28th, 2021 at 6:41am
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ha ha ha ha ha ha.  Aw, crafting, lol
  

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Reply #27 - Nov 28th, 2021 at 1:47pm
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Then somehow when all was said and done, something ELSE re-rolled the sets. I don't even know what. So I'd have to spend ANOTHER 100 threads with no guarantee it'd stay on the set I want. This is horse shit.
  

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Re: Lvl 20 Epic TR Warlock gear?
Reply #28 - Nov 28th, 2021 at 6:24pm
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noamineo wrote on Nov 28th, 2021 at 1:47pm:
Then somehow when all was said and done, something ELSE re-rolled the sets. I don't even know what. So I'd have to spend ANOTHER 100 threads with no guarantee it'd stay on the set I want. This is horse shit.

Next time, try taking your time and thinking it through, Speedy McSpeedface.
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Reply #29 - Nov 28th, 2021 at 6:42pm
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Standing Stone Games wrote on Nov 28th, 2021 at 6:24pm:
Next time, try taking your time and thinking it through, Speedy McSpeedface.



I did take my time and think it through. I was very careful and very methodical. What I was doing was checking all of this out so I could share what I learned. I'm just angry that what I learned is "Its shit"

Let's run down what we have:
-When you get it, it has a random set bonus
-You can reroll the Epic version for free at the legacy altar in the 12
-Upgrading from epic to legendary changes sets a random set bonus - NOT WHAT YOU HAD ON EPIC
-The Altar of Legendary Rituals lets you see what bonus you are getting both when you Legend it and when you re-roll it(so you don't waste mats on rerolls, fortunately)

Now for the important bits:

-Keying for crafting changes to a random set bonus
-Rerolling the legendary version erases the crafting key
-Enchanting the item then blanking it again does not change the set bonus
--The only way to change the set bonus after its been keyed for crafting is to take it back to the altar, which randomizes the bonus again, and erases the crafting key.

So far as I can tell based on that information - there is no actual way to control the set bonus and have it be keyed for crafting. The only way to get it with a specific set bonus AND keyed would be to have the set bonus you want applied randomly when you key it for crafting. Since the only way to reset it after you've done that is to go to the altar and spend 100 threads of fate, you are fucked.

Now I don't claim to be good at math, but there are 10 first sets and 9 second sets - that means 90 different combinations, correct? Your odds of getting what you want then are 1 in 90, costing 100 threads of fate a throw.
  

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Re: Lvl 20 Epic TR Warlock gear?
Reply #30 - Nov 28th, 2021 at 9:07pm
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noamineo wrote on Nov 28th, 2021 at 6:42pm:
Your odds of getting what you want then are 1 in 90, costing 100 threads of fate a throw.

Better save up your threads, then.
  

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Reply #31 - Nov 28th, 2021 at 9:46pm
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Standing Stone Games wrote on Nov 28th, 2021 at 9:07pm:
Better save up your threads, then.


Are you actually interested in contributing anything useful to this conversation?
  

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Reply #32 - Nov 29th, 2021 at 12:12am
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noamineo wrote on Nov 28th, 2021 at 9:46pm:
Are you actually interested in contributing anything useful to this conversation?

Not really, no.
  

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Reply #33 - Nov 29th, 2021 at 1:13am
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Standing Stone Games wrote on Nov 29th, 2021 at 12:12am:
Not really, no.


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Reply #34 - Nov 29th, 2021 at 6:50am
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Can you re-key it for crafting again and again?  or is the only way to do that to reset it as a legendary
  

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Reply #35 - Nov 29th, 2021 at 12:26pm
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higgildypiggildy wrote on Nov 29th, 2021 at 6:50am:
Can you re-key it for crafting again and again?  or is the only way to do that to reset it as a legendary


You can re-key it for crafting as many times as you want, but it only changes the set bonus the first time you key it.

So if you:

-Set a set bonus
-Key for crafting(sets random set bonus)
-apply ML shard, apply affixes
-Re-key for crafting - it keeps the same set bonus.
  

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Reply #36 - Nov 30th, 2021 at 6:47am
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noamineo wrote on Nov 29th, 2021 at 12:26pm:
You can re-key it for crafting as many times as you want, but it only changes the set bonus the first time you key it.


damn.  that would have been a nice way to get it all to work.  bloody annoying
  

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Reply #37 - Nov 30th, 2021 at 2:49pm
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higgildypiggildy wrote on Nov 30th, 2021 at 6:47am:
damn.  that would have been a nice way to get it all to work.  bloody annoying


Yeah. I found a similar thread on the motherboards. As usual the assholes just shouted down the complaints and swore up and down that it works the way SSG says without ever having tried it. Fucking love this game.
  

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Reply #38 - Nov 30th, 2021 at 3:18pm
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noamineo wrote on Nov 30th, 2021 at 2:49pm:
Yeah. I found a similar thread on the motherboards. As usual the assholes just shouted down the complaints and swore up and down that it works the way SSG says without ever having tried it. Fucking love this game.


Yes I saw that thread on the mobo. Made me think of you and I wondered if you really had gone to the dark side and posted there too.

If I recall correctly Teth posted in that one.
  
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Reply #39 - Nov 30th, 2021 at 3:30pm
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Shinyshoes wrote on Nov 30th, 2021 at 3:18pm:
Yes I saw that thread on the mobo. Made me think of you and I wondered if you really had gone to the dark side and posted there too.


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Shinyshoes wrote on Nov 30th, 2021 at 3:18pm:
If I recall correctly Teth posted in that one.


Is Teth a dev? Because at this point I don't give a shit what anyone on the motherboards says unless they are a dev.
  

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Reply #40 - Nov 30th, 2021 at 3:32pm
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noamineo wrote on Nov 30th, 2021 at 3:30pm:
Is Teth a dev? Because at this point I don't give a shit what anyone on the motherboards says unless they are a dev.

Nobody gives a shit about anything Teth says anyway. AFAIK, he doesn't even really play the game anymore.
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Re: Lvl 20 Epic TR Warlock gear?
Reply #41 - Nov 30th, 2021 at 3:53pm
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Shinyshoes wrote on Nov 30th, 2021 at 3:18pm:
If I recall correctly Teth posted in that one.


Scrotie McBoogerballs wrote on Nov 30th, 2021 at 3:32pm:
Nobody gives a shit about anything Teth says anyway. AFAIK, he doesn't even really play the game anymore.


This is definitely a vault post.
  

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Reply #42 - Nov 30th, 2021 at 7:43pm
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Scrotie McBoogerballs wrote on Nov 30th, 2021 at 3:32pm:
Nobody gives a shit about anything Teth says anyway. AFAIK, he doesn't even really play the game anymore.



Pretty sure he was talking about how the mechanic in question, a reasonably new one, actually worked.
  
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