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May 6th, 2023 at 7:03pm
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Hello,

I have been away from the game for a while due to life hitting me fairly hard and am now returning. I am 3 lives away from completionist but once I get completionist, I would like to help out my guild and become a tank for a while since our main guild tank seems to have quit the game.

I am looking for build advice or even a link to a decent build that I can aspire towards and farm any gear I may still need. The game has changed so much since I've been away. A whole new destiny system, imbues, among other changes.

If anyone is willing to drop some knowledge or a link, I would really appreciate it.
  
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Reply #1 - May 6th, 2023 at 7:11pm
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radonek wrote on May 6th, 2023 at 7:03pm:
Hello,

I have been away from the game for a while due to life hitting me fairly hard and am now returning. I am 3 lives away from completionist but once I get completionist, I would like to help out my guild and become a tank for a while since our main guild tank seems to have quit the game.

I am looking for build advice or even a link to a decent build that I can aspire towards and farm any gear I may still need. The game has changed so much since I've been away. A whole new destiny system, imbues, among other changes.

If anyone is willing to drop some knowledge or a link, I would really appreciate it.


What raid difficulty? R1 skellies, dryad, etc you can get away with 7 piece Eminence of the Winter set from Feywild. You'll be strong enough for R10 quests as well. The upgrades from there are either LGS or doing goofy stuff to get the profane bonus on Chrono set or Dino set into a Winter set or something else.

If you're main-tanking though then what I'm think of is a 0 damage build. You level up with an Esos and Holy sword with the pally cleaves and just suffer if you're hesitant to LR. Every drop of DPS in the intimi-tanks is a drop not spent on pure defense. Getting some utility for stuns is an option but if you're returning to the game then that might gimp you I'm not sure.

Pure Pally and Pure Fighter are both great. I haven't been impressed by the weird split builds.

That said you'll need to get your filigrees sorted. I got no opinions there.

AC does work and is very helpful until you start getting into the mid skulls on raids where it falls off a bit. A pure barbarian tank then becomes good because you just need a sack of HP and a good healer.
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Reply #2 - May 6th, 2023 at 7:45pm
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WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on May 6th, 2023 at 7:11pm:
What raid difficulty? R1 skellies, dryad, etc you can get away with 7 piece Eminence of the Winter set from Feywild. You'll be strong enough for R10 quests as well. The upgrades from there are either LGS or doing goofy stuff to get the profane bonus on Chrono set or Dino set into a Winter set or something else.

If you're main-tanking though then what I'm think of is a 0 damage build. You level up with an Esos and Holy sword with the pally cleaves and just suffer if you're hesitant to LR. Every drop of DPS in the intimi-tanks is a drop not spent on pure defense. Getting some utility for stuns is an option but if you're returning to the game then that might gimp you I'm not sure.

Pure Pally and Pure Fighter are both great. I haven't been impressed by the weird split builds.

That said you'll need to get your filigrees sorted. I got no opinions there.

AC does work and is very helpful until you start getting into the mid skulls on raids where it falls off a bit. A pure barbarian tank then becomes good because you just need a sack of HP and a good healer. 



Thank you for the advice and the response. This is where I'll probably get laughed off of the form. I play on Wayfinder....ew...I know. If it wasnt for the group of friends I've made over the years still being there, I would transfer.

That being said, Wayfinder being what it is won't raid much higher than R1 for the legendary raids and I do have the winter set.

I see some of these numbers of people having 140+ CON, 5k-7k hp, 600+ PRR, and high AC and I'm like wow, how do they get that? I don't know if I can get near those numbers, I'm just hoping I can be serviceable enough for my guild to continue to raid.

It doesn't look like our guild has a dedicated healer any more either so that is going to be a problem...I'm hoping someone is willing to step up like I am.
  
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Reply #3 - May 10th, 2023 at 11:13am
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Well to be fair, if you get 140 CON, the HP kinda sorts itself Smiley
  
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Reply #4 - May 11th, 2023 at 2:31pm
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Everling wrote on May 10th, 2023 at 11:13am:
Well to be fair, if you get 140 CON, the HP kinda sorts itself Smiley


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Reply #6 - May 12th, 2023 at 6:34am
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Barbarian tanks were popular for a while.

I saw some tonks running around lately. Never saw them perform in raids though.
  

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Reply #7 - May 16th, 2023 at 11:14am
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Join Strimtom's discord and grab emergencies fighter tank build - its pre U57 so you ill have to shuffle around a few things and if you watch the stream/youtube video you can rollback the (bad) changes Strimtom made.

I think its probably the best publicly available and fighters are better now than when it was posted.
  
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Reply #8 - May 23rd, 2023 at 11:58am
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Justanotherlurker wrote on May 16th, 2023 at 11:14am:
... and fighters are better now than when it was posted.


They gained second wind (which is great) but also got hosed on filigree damage and no imbue toggle?

Or did something else happen?
  
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Reply #9 - May 23rd, 2023 at 3:37pm
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Filigree damage and imbues are irrelevant to tanks they gained a significant amount of HP with U57

Tier 5 Stalwart Defender's Thick of Battle has been replaced with a flat passive 100% Threat bonus and now grants 60 Hit Points.
Tier 5 Against the Odds now grants 60 Hit Points in addition to its original effects.
Core 4 Stalwart Defender's Stand Fast now grants a +10% Quality bonus to Hit Points in addition to its original effects.
Tier 5 Block and Cut has been updated to perform a melee attack with your main hand weapon, 2/4/6[W] on Damage. Gain a +10/15/25% Morale bonus to Doublestrike and a +10/15/25 bonus to Armor Class for 5 seconds. Cooldown 10 seconds.
Tier 3 Stalwart Defender's Defensive Stance has been increased to a +25% Competence bonus at rank 3.
New Fighter Perk: Second Wind - Auto granted for fighter level 2. Active this ability to regain 50% of your maximum Hit Points. 15 second cooldown. You can used this once per rest, with an additional charges gained at Fighter levels 4, 8, 12, 16, 20. This can be used while Crowd Controlled. At level 8 Second Wind removes negative effects like the Panacea spell. (Note: This heal will apply as a inflict if your undead or repair if you are a construct)

As well as all the heroic durability and style bonus changes
  
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Reply #10 - May 24th, 2023 at 10:53am
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You are 100 percent right. The OP was about tank builds and all those are nice buffs to the tank side of things.

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Reply #11 - May 25th, 2023 at 10:30am
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So, focus on HP and defense? Great thread, thanks.
  

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Reply #12 - May 26th, 2023 at 8:15am
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Gunga wrote on May 11th, 2023 at 2:31pm:
Meh


OK I wasn't going to ask, but is 140 CON meh? How high is it possible to get post stat squish? I can get to 143 (theoretical) including the below but not the Rising Fury 30 second potion. Could/would Tensors for 4 alchemical. I have 8 down for Madstone boot's, but would anyone wear those till they Proc as well as using the clicky?

Constitution      
Race      20
Level Up      7
Tome      8
Racial Enh      2
Racial Completion      2
Class Completionist      2
Racial PL      2
Item Enhancement      15
Item Insightful      6
Item Quality      3
Exceptional (Blood)      1
Well Rounded      2
Guild Buff      2
Primal Avatar Boon      2
Filigree      11
Reaper Enh      5
Yugo Pot (15m)      2
Store/Remnant Pot (1hr)      2
Primal Scream      4
Artifact      3
Enhanced Bloodrage      8
Madstone Boots      4
Madstone Clicky?      4
Ravager Hardy Rage      3
Ravager 41AP      6
Frenzied Berserker      2
Occult Slayer      1
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Reply #13 - May 26th, 2023 at 8:17am
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Well that's ugly and that's coming from me.

Ah could get more with Filligree's of course, if one wasn't trying to add PRR/MRR etc. or anything other than CON.

  
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5 Foot Step wrote on May 29th, 2023 at 12:58pm:
Abrams.


Thanks, I learned a lot about tanks if nothing about DDO today Smiley
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OGRE. Now there's a blast from the past! I played this in the early 80's. I wonder if I can find a box now.

  
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Everling wrote on Jun 3rd, 2023 at 4:28am:
OGRE. Now there's a blast from the past! I played this in the early 80's. I wonder if I can find a box now.


My copy didn't come in a box. It was in one of those heavy duty ziploc-type bag. It was $2.95. I also got the follow-up G.E.V.

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