Nevthial wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2010 at 5:23pm:

1) if you want DCs then you need them to be 40+ at level 20
2) if you are not intent on DCs then why bother bumping your wisdom
3) it is a choice between STR and WIS
4) optimizers ALWAYS choose a stat line and max it out
5) Monks are a MaD class you have to choose and not choosing is fail

I have started playing monks and i am testing out both builds.

The WF Str Monk is a beast.

The Halfling Monk i have not tested it out as much as i have two other toons that are similar in so i know what i will be getting.

The guides i have posted have everything to do with Human Monk Dark Path you just start with slightly odd stats.

You sound new to the game so i will let you figure it out. DnD 3.5 optimising is all about choosing a direction and maxxing it in whatever way you can.

Most Dark Path Str Monks us Fire Stance all the to get to a Str of 40+

Most Dark Path Wis monks use Wind stance to keep their Dex up so they can hit things.

It is really not that hard to understand.

Aranticus was giving you good info but you ignored him so you fail

Antir wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2010 at 6:16pm:


Fixed that for you.

I'm beginning to think that the Monk class may be too complicated for you to comprehend.  Stick to Barbs, they are much easier to play.

Nevthial wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2010 at 7:45pm:

nobody uses ocean stance anymore

Nevthial wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2010 at 8:12pm:

I dont need cognitive skills.

But it is nice to see you can only use insults now.

TR 36point builds is a long way away.

What is irritating is that you used MyDDO as a tool for discussing builds, i cannot think of a worse starting point.

Trying to get the best of all worlds is what gimps most builds.

Be the best at what you want to do?

If it is Dark DCs then you have two main issues, how to boost your DCs as high as possible and the other is your BAB which is often Dex orientated.

Str builds will always find it difficult to get the best DCs for Dark Debuffs so aiming for it is depressing because it requires WORK!

I do not play DDO to work, i play to have fun.

Nevthial wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2010 at 9:46pm:

/scratches head

Nevthial wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2010 at 9:59pm:

Ah, gotcha.

But to be clear, there are no unofficial rules, there are just things that the community rejects.  Like improper spelling of the word doosh.

Nevthial wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2010 at 9:46pm:



helm-Epic helm of the Mroranon
Wisdom 7
fear immune
yellow slot-resist 4



trinket-litany
+1 to all stats
+2 dmg
+ 2 to hit


Belt- Epic belt of the mroranon
str 7
hvy fort
toughness
empty yellow augment slot-greater false life



cloak- Epic cape of the roc
exceptional str 1
exceptioal str 2
ff
yellow slot



gloves-epic spectral gloves
ethereal
dex 7
attack 4
yellow augment-exceptional dex 1


wrist- Epic jidz-tet'ka
Ac-8
exceptional wisdom 1
colorless slot-
yellow slot-protect 4


boots-firestorm greaves/anchoring/striders/air boots



goggles-45 shroud item



armor-



Ring-Epic seal of earth
greater acid resist, stoneskin, natural armor +5



Ring-shintao/oremi
exceptional str 1/con 1


Necklace-shintao/oremi's
con 6


all the gear you need.  Do whatever for armor.. I prefer a DT guard set.. but that because unlike you, when I plan a build, I actually fucking plan it instead of winging it as I go.

(obviously I am not including random gear clickies)

Nevthial wrote on Sep 4^th, 2010 at 10:28pm:


NP... just put toughness on some epic item.  Compeltely negates the benefit of minos legen.