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Oct 25th, 2012 at 2:22pm
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Needham’s Turbine Inc., makers of the online video games Dungeons and Dragons and The Lord of the Rings, cut its workforce as part of a restructuring at its parent company, Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment.

“As part of the continual review of our business operations and fluctuating market conditions, we have had to make reductions in our Turbine workforce,” said Remi Sklar, spokeswoman for Warner Bros. Entertainment Group, in an e-mail. “The group continues to remain an integral part of Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment.”

She did not provide additional specifics regarding the layoffs.

Turbine, which has more than 400 employees, is the Boston area’s biggest game company. The cuts come two days after the San Francisco game-maker Zynga Inc. closed its Cambridge office, which had about 50 employees, and reduced its workforce elsewhere. Zynga, the maker of Facebook game Farmville, has struggled as fewer people play games on social media and the web, and shifting their game habits to mobile devices such as tablets and smartphones.

News of the Turbine layoffs spread quickly on Twitter Thursday morning, similar to how word got out about Zynga cuts. Wrote one Cambridge game designer: “My heart goes out to all the Turbine employees who got laid off today. Hang in there.”
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Reply #1 - Oct 25th, 2012 at 2:30pm
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Glad I've got an already-established character on a better MMO.

RIP DDO.
  
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Hope they dont apply at ANet Smiley

In other news "With the success of League of Legends, it seems like everyone’s building a MOBA these days. …even ArenaNet is working on building a MOBA."  With somethoughts that it would be part of a GW2 PvP expansion.

rest wrote on Oct 25th, 2012 at 2:30pm:
RIP DDO.

Doubtful.  Cut the salary of new content to about 10% its current levels and place 1/5 of that in coders to fix the current issues and this game would make large profits as a legacy game.    Still alot of good in DDO, just their inability to service it is killing the game off quicker then doing nothing.
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Reply #3 - Oct 25th, 2012 at 2:45pm
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Perhaps this is related to the shutdown of the customer service dept. Turbine has not outsourced customer service yet, have they, I thought it was just the forum mods who were outsourced? I can imagine that they want to build on the outstanding success delivered by IWZincedge & company.

And here people thought customer service couldn't get any worse. That'll teach us to underestimate Turbine.
  

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Reply #4 - Oct 25th, 2012 at 2:53pm
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Figured it was Customer service as well, but I dont think that part is based in boston.  Also

"Sorry to hear about layoffs at Turbine today," Kevin Fanning wrote on Twitter at 1pm today. "Real nice game dev scene we used to have in Boston."

Makes it sounds like its Devs not CS. Kevin used to work in turbine and now works with recruiting in the boston area i think.
  
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Reply #5 - Oct 25th, 2012 at 3:03pm
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This is interesting and disturbing.  They hire some new talent and follow it with restructuring layoff's.  It makes one wonder what's being restructured and if they are bleeding out subscribers.
  

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I just got that impression after you spent 13 pages calling out eladiun for being an interwebs bully when anyone who's been posting on here already knew that.  I mean, he's proud of it and hardly tries to hide that at all.


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Reply #6 - Oct 25th, 2012 at 3:49pm
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Eladiun wrote on Oct 25th, 2012 at 3:03pm:
This is interesting and disturbing.  They hire some new talent and follow it with restructuring layoff's.  It makes one wonder what's being restructured and if they are bleeding out subscribers.


Does kinda sound like one of the new guys got handed a hatchet and a mission, don't it.
  
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Reply #7 - Oct 25th, 2012 at 4:05pm
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It would be an early Christmas if was cut.
  
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Does kinda sound like one of the new guys got handed a hatchet and a mission, don't it.


Not this at all.
I'm still here so you still have at least one person to piss off on a regular basis.

  
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Reply #9 - Oct 25th, 2012 at 4:18pm
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GreyMouser wrote on Oct 25th, 2012 at 4:14pm:
Not this at all.
I'm still here so you still have at least one person to piss off on a regular basis.



In all seriousness: Good.

I was actually kinda hoping nobody'd set you up for taking the fall on the recent release fuckups, for instance. Most of us can tell you give a damn and try.
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Reply #10 - Oct 25th, 2012 at 4:19pm
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Clover from the LOTR side got the boot.
  

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Reply #11 - Oct 25th, 2012 at 4:25pm
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Former Community Specialist Suzie Owen acknowledged on Twitter that she was one of those let go: "Looking for work in the Boston-Providence area. Any links would be most appreciated. I am unable to relocate at this time."
  
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Reply #12 - Oct 25th, 2012 at 4:39pm
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Please tell me Feather of Sun got the axe?
  
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Bigjunk wrote on Oct 25th, 2012 at 4:39pm:
Please tell me Feather of Sun got the axe?



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Reply #14 - Oct 25th, 2012 at 5:36pm
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Some LOTRO support folks were let go. My source has no specifics beyond that.
  
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Fortunately, being very good at what you do and dedicated to your job helps avoid getting fired.

I regularly take blame from the community for things that aren't my doing, or my responsibility to fix. Rather than avoid any forum interaction like most developers do, I'm willing to actually pop in, say hello, give some insight on what's going on or how things work, and ask questions to get to the heart of a problem so that I can fix it, because if I don't, no-one else will find out what's going on or do anything about it.

I'm okay with that.

See: Broken Black Abbot 20th rewards, Warforged healer's friend, Spell Power issues, among many other things.

If you want to delude yourselves into thinking that I caused those issues (hint: I don't code), or that somehow they're my responsibility, just because I'm the one trying to figure out what's going on with them so that I can get them fixed, then that's fine if it makes you feel better.

I can deal with the harassment, and the threats of physical violence from you guys, because in the end, it honestly doesn't matter. I'm not going to let that kind of bullying discourage me from doing my job properly.

The fact is, I'm here, and I'm here to stay. I have a job I love, and I'm damn good at it. I work insane hours, go into the office on weekends to work on side projects (like buffing hirelings, or on the hinted-about new augment system) because I want to, and I put my all into what I do.

Deal with it.

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Reply #16 - Oct 25th, 2012 at 5:40pm
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SolarDawning wrote on Oct 25th, 2012 at 5:39pm:
Deal with it.

"Suck it" fits better.
  

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Reply #17 - Oct 25th, 2012 at 5:42pm
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SolarDawning wrote on Oct 25th, 2012 at 5:39pm:
Fortunately, being very good at what you do and dedicated to your job helps avoid getting fired.

I regularly take blame from the community for things that aren't my doing, or my responsibility to fix. Rather than avoid any forum interaction like most developers do, I'm willing to actually pop in, say hello, give some insight on what's going on or how things work, and ask questions to get to the heart of a problem so that I can fix it, because if I don't, no-one else will find out what's going on or do anything about it.

I'm okay with that.

See: Broken Black Abbot 20th rewards, Warforged healer's friend, Spell Power issues, among many other things.

If you want to delude yourselves into thinking that I caused those issues (hint: I don't code), or that somehow they're my responsibility, just because I'm the one trying to figure out what's going on with them so that I can get them fixed, then that's fine if it makes you feel better.

I can deal with the harassment, and the threats of physical violence from you guys, because in the end, it honestly doesn't matter. I'm not going to let that kind of bullying discourage me from doing my job properly.

The fact is, I'm here, and I'm here to stay. I have a job I love, and I'm damn good at it. I work insane hours, go into the office on weekends to work on side projects (like buffing hirelings, or on the hinted-about new augment system) because I want to, and I put my all into what I do.

Deal with it.

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Reply #18 - Oct 25th, 2012 at 6:02pm
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SolarDawning wrote on Oct 25th, 2012 at 5:39pm:
Fortunately, being very good at what you do and dedicated to your job helps avoid getting fired.

I regularly take blame from the community for things that aren't my doing, or my responsibility to fix. Rather than avoid any forum interaction like most developers do, I'm willing to actually pop in, say hello, give some insight on what's going on or how things work, and ask questions to get to the heart of a problem so that I can fix it, because if I don't, no-one else will find out what's going on or do anything about it.

I'm okay with that.

See: Broken Black Abbot 20th rewards, Warforged healer's friend, Spell Power issues, among many other things.

If you want to delude yourselves into thinking that I caused those issues (hint: I don't code), or that somehow they're my responsibility, just because I'm the one trying to figure out what's going on with them so that I can get them fixed, then that's fine if it makes you feel better.

I can deal with the harassment, and the threats of physical violence from you guys, because in the end, it honestly doesn't matter. I'm not going to let that kind of bullying discourage me from doing my job properly.

The fact is, I'm here, and I'm here to stay. I have a job I love, and I'm damn good at it. I work insane hours, go into the office on weekends to work on side projects (like buffing hirelings, or on the hinted-about new augment system) because I want to, and I put my all into what I do.

Deal with it.

-Feather of Sun


Would you like an honest response, or do you post here to keep from exploding on the PR forums as well?
  
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Reply #19 - Oct 25th, 2012 at 6:03pm
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SolarDawning wrote on Oct 25th, 2012 at 5:39pm:
I have a job I love, and I'm damn good at it.

-Feather of Sun

Please continue to ignore healer and Warforged itemization while you pat yourself on the back.
  
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Reply #20 - Oct 25th, 2012 at 6:13pm
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SolarDawning wrote on Oct 25th, 2012 at 5:39pm:
The fact is, I'm here, and I'm here to stay. I have a job I love (...) I work insane hours, go into the office on weekends to work on side projects (like buffing hirelings, or on the hinted-about new augment system) because I want to, and I put my all into what I do.


Sounds like you like your job, and you are dedicated towards it. Let's hope that there are more of your kind and none of them got booted in the recent event.
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Reply #21 - Oct 25th, 2012 at 6:34pm
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In all seriousness, to those from Turbine who have posted, I'm glad you still have your job.  Agree or not, you have taken the time to come here and at times participate in our little community.

To those who have not posted yet, and have lost your jobs, my condolences and sincere well-wishes and hopes that you get re-employed rather quickly for your and your family's sakes.

Now, back to Vault etiquette:

SUCK IT.

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Reply #22 - Oct 25th, 2012 at 6:50pm
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Does kinda sound like one of the new guys got handed a hatchet and a mission, don't it.



Too soon.  They haven't had time to get the lay of the land.  Those types of changes come 2-3 months after executive changes.  This was planned by the current leaders months ago.
  

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I just got that impression after you spent 13 pages calling out eladiun for being an interwebs bully when anyone who's been posting on here already knew that.  I mean, he's proud of it and hardly tries to hide that at all.


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Reply #23 - Oct 25th, 2012 at 6:53pm
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SolarDawning wrote on Oct 25th, 2012 at 5:39pm:
Fortunately, being very good at what you do and dedicated to your job helps avoid getting fired.

I regularly take blame from the community for things that aren't my doing, or my responsibility to fix. Rather than avoid any forum interaction like most developers do, I'm willing to actually pop in, say hello, give some insight on what's going on or how things work, and ask questions to get to the heart of a problem so that I can fix it, because if I don't, no-one else will find out what's going on or do anything about it.

I'm okay with that.

See: Broken Black Abbot 20th rewards, Warforged healer's friend, Spell Power issues, among many other things.

If you want to delude yourselves into thinking that I caused those issues (hint: I don't code), or that somehow they're my responsibility, just because I'm the one trying to figure out what's going on with them so that I can get them fixed, then that's fine if it makes you feel better.

I can deal with the harassment, and the threats of physical violence from you guys, because in the end, it honestly doesn't matter. I'm not going to let that kind of bullying discourage me from doing my job properly.

The fact is, I'm here, and I'm here to stay. I have a job I love, and I'm damn good at it. I work insane hours, go into the office on weekends to work on side projects (like buffing hirelings, or on the hinted-about new augment system) because I want to, and I put my all into what I do.

Deal with it.

-Feather of Sun


Nice post.

Thank you for your dedication.  Now, never make random items again and make better loot then we will love you.  I've you would have made this point sooner I think you would have gotten less shit for not knowing the code.

BTW, most of the bullies are fat lazy gaming nerds so I wouldn't be too worried.  You may get beaten with a foam padded larp sword but that's all in a days work.
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I just got that impression after you spent 13 pages calling out eladiun for being an interwebs bully when anyone who's been posting on here already knew that.  I mean, he's proud of it and hardly tries to hide that at all.


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Reply #24 - Oct 25th, 2012 at 6:54pm
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Carpone wrote on Oct 25th, 2012 at 6:03pm:
Please continue to ignore healer and Warforged itemization while you pat yourself on the back. 


I'd much rather they do something to improve this then fix the hirelings that actually generally make players worse off and teach bad habits.
  
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