stainer wrote on Feb 13^th, 2013 at 10:26am:

stainer wrote on Feb 13^th, 2013 at 10:50am:


a 1937 steel wheel... not as nice as a 1940 rubber wheel would have been to drive

Feklar wrote on Feb 12^th, 2013 at 8:22pm:


It can be at Turbine, but it can also be any where in the backbone of the carriers... ( read: Cogent, Pnap, Level3, Equant, ... )

You have no idea how easy it's to generate a 'hiccup' in those. One node goes down in there, it takes between 10 second and 10 minutes for the routing tables to update [ depending on network complexity ] and during that update you're going to stay frozen, because packets are still going to come, eventually.... and if that node is used by you and your friends you're all going to be frozen.
Enve if your PC is fine, your ISP is fine and the fucking Turbine servers are fine.

I work all day fixing those fucking hiccups, or trying to find the root cause of those fucking hiccups.
I'm one of the guys that gets called up when a 10Gb link flaps and all the LDP peers stay in INIT stage ( meaning that no traffic witll go through and the routing tables are not updated... meaning Freeze time and Red Link for a lot of people in DDO ).

Flav wrote on Feb 13^th, 2013 at 11:05am:


a picture with scorch marks is worth a thousand words 

JDollar wrote on Feb 13^th, 2013 at 11:08am:


exactly... well the pictures I received are not exactly the same... it's more than scorch marks, the failure ( probably a short circuit ) melted a lot of metal on the side ( well the top ) of the rectifier.

Next time I'll take them myself... I spent the afternoon in the test lab... Testing fucking Network Nodes that were sent back by telcos with the comment : fucking thing is broke, replacing it.

Except that, to validate the replacement I need fucking logs of the fucking failure of the fucking node.

Torgal wrote on Feb 13^th, 2013 at 12:21pm:


This isn't true...

1) Some attacks have a long cooldown but you cycle multiple attacks, you don't just have 1 button labeled "Do Something".  Honestly, high level raiding in WoW, EQ and many other games is incredibly complex.  Tanking in SWTOR for instance I'm cycling over 20 abilities in the course of an 15 minute boss fight against Energy Generation, Global Cooldown, and Individual Ability Cooldowns.

2) Their parties weren't limited to 12 they had 40 man raids.  Now, do those same calculation and add in a ton of adds plus all the bloom and graphical pretty from 40 people attacking. I believe EQ2 had 80.

3) Most DDO Raids consist of Nuke Boss and Heal.  Many other games have extensive support role integration into raiding increasing the overall complexity.

Imagine Harry with 40 toons plus waves of spawning devils say 20 at a time.  With actual movement and mechanics rather than just a being a giant punching bag and then tell me DDO is so much more complicated than other MMOs.

stainer wrote on Feb 13^th, 2013 at 12:39pm:



..or Mrs. Piaz she piloted this ship in this direction for a while as well.  They are like the Bonnie and Clyde of MMO Leadership.

Eladiun wrote on Feb 13^th, 2013 at 12:38pm:


How many 40 man raids does WoW have now? (how many over 12?)

What is the global cool down between abilities in SWTOR?  (never played it, so no clue)

Other games raids are definitely more complex than DDO, I remember my wife and her guild practicing for hours on where to stand during different phases of raids (she's a healer usually) and where everyone else needs to be positioned. 

But if you had 9 TWF's surrounding harry, that is a lot of calculations to do.  In WoW in a party of 12, how many were actually standing around swinging at a boss? How many actions per second were being done overall?

Eladiun wrote on Feb 13^th, 2013 at 12:38pm:


Honestly :

SWTOR raiding is a slideshow on my 7 Years old PC ( Pentium D 930 @ 3GHz )
I've done it once, felt useless as being unable to do more than hide in a safe place.

On the other hand for DDO to end up with the same result you need a Massive Event, as in Marketplace Tent Blowing...

Now I can't compare both as there's a 6 year difference between the two, DDO is single core single thread, SWTOR is at least dual threaded ( as I have only two single threaded Pentium4 I can't tell if SWOTOR uses more cores ).
On the network side, SWTOR is using up more bandwidth than DDO. ( even with the empty packets DDO sends... but I'm fairly sure those empty packets are voice chat... and they are empty because nobody talk at that time )

Eladiun wrote on Feb 13^th, 2013 at 11:17am:


Listen Fuck Face MMO boy. You're talking about DDO having too much lag to play. I say warhammer so you change your story to DDO and Warhammer being the only MMOs that lag. What about Star Wars? You don't have an opinion on that one or doesn't that one lag in your expert MMO boy experience?

Saying DDO is the only MMO that lags is like calling you the only faggot. It's fucking preposterous.

Eladiun wrote on Feb 13^th, 2013 at 3:32pm:


A straw man is an argument that you present in order to misrepresent your opponents opinion. You straw manned yourself.

A diseased discharging cunt is what you see in the mirror.

Eladiun wrote on Feb 13^th, 2013 at 3:38pm:


No, asshole face, you said there are no other MMOs that lag like DDO. I named two others. Then you changed your position and blamed me.

Your angry is too fast for your stupid to keep up. Take a breath. Eat some vitamins. Read a book. Get smarter and find a couple good burns. I'll be here, shitlips.