Gunga wrote on Feb 13^th, 2013 at 3:43pm:


Oh, sorry I left out the no other MMO's still in business.  My mistake, I forgot the qualifier.  It's an easy one to make.  Just the other day I asked my buddy for a good new car recommendation and he said a Packard.  Silly me, forgetting to specify...  I mean sure if you want to compare DDO to failed and out of business MMO's then that works.  DDO definitely sucks less.

If you were only half as perceptive as you think you are you would be about as perceptive as a turd.  Your intellect, despite your many and varied claims, fails to impress even the dumbest among us.  You can keep trying to shovel shit but in the end you fail as you do in life.  Now, be a good little cumdumpster and run along we have no need of you.

Warhammer and SWG lol... one failed out the gate and one got passed around more than your wife at the company Christmas party.

It's cool you are a casual gamer who doesn't care.  No worries man when you and Chai are rocking dungeons I'm sure the cool the two of you gives off wards away lag. 

Freezing up in a 6 man instance is just like a server grinding to a halt in Realm v Realm.  It's like apples and donuts, yo.  You are such a caricature...you amuse me so.  My days would be boring without you calling people something face every few hours, such an articulate and amazing speaker you are.  If they add a smidge more dungeon alert I'm sure the lag will be finally fixed.

Gunga wrote on Feb 13^th, 2013 at 3:43pm:


this is why we are friends. and to think people think you just do mom jokes, if they only knew mom jokes are just a pit trap so you can mass kill the critters that fall in

*yawn* I'll read tomorrow

Maxwell Edison wrote on Feb 13^th, 2013 at 4:47pm:


Well, it fit within some of the story lines for the game.  It was actually somewhat fun after people started getting the hang of it.  It did take a long time, but I had fun tanking him on my kat/regen/dark.

Actually tanking him wasn't fun since it was rinse and repeat of cycling powers when they came off timer, but bsing around with people while it was happening and killing the idiots who wouldn't move when I warned them I was moving to that spot was good times.

Feklar wrote on Feb 13^th, 2013 at 8:36pm:


Shut it new guy. Grown ups are talking.

lobotomospeak. the noises y'all started making after having the front 1/3rd of your brains disconnected.
It must be a generational or cultural thing that I skipped... This thing where you monkeys feel included or cool or bright or witty or something, by acting like low foreheads. It's a pretty interesting anthropological effect... Assert your individuality by mimicking the behaviour of rebels.

Let the inside jokes reign. As usual the brain-ded mob rules.

Feklar wrote on Feb 13^th, 2013 at 9:18pm:



As usual another newbie fails. Ok tough guy. We haven't seen this line of attack before. Like 50 times. But hey, you go ahead and bring it. It isn't like you won't end up squealing like a bitch like the others.

Feklar wrote on Feb 13^th, 2013 at 10:06pm:



I think you need to know that you will find that the PLA is OK!

Eladiun wrote on Feb 13^th, 2013 at 8:06am:

Gunga wrote on Feb 13^th, 2013 at 10:24pm:


I think some Irish step dancers got in on it too.

Flav wrote on Feb 13^th, 2013 at 10:58am:

Actually, I do have an idea. I had data centers in 4 states I could test from:
I ran it on a DS-3 (5MB VBR to 40MB and I could sustain 20MB) and experienced it several times. Documented it for Turbine... about the time someone elso also saw that they were capping the data rate to the client. I also used systems that had sustained frame rates of 100-300 and never saw the issues with Otto's Sphere, glitterdust, etc.  THOSE are client side issues.

The problem is that people across the world (coming in on different providers) would experience it at the same time (and, not in the same group or location).

And yet, the voice and chat can go through fine (no dropped packets). That isn't the client, that is their gaming backend fucked up.


There was some very bad coding that came in when they added code for Mordenkainen's Disjunction and the ability to debuff individual enhancements from items.

Khyber always had most of the issues and I only saw the shroud related ones on Argo. 

Now, I can rubberband on practically all the servers. I think they have issues with instances crashing and having to be migrated and recreated.

well since I jumped into the Notwork talks, and people started to give information around what I said... I've been thinking hard where the problem might be located and I've come to the conclusion there's a very high probability the problem we all encounter is located at PNAP hosting center in Boston where the Servers are located.

Also due to some information my suspicion is that the problem is not located in Turbine's servers ( except for the crashing instances, the i2049 and 2050, and the shitty code pointed out ) but is located either on some of the PNAP infrastructure in the datacenter or at Cogent gateway to said datacenter.

Now while I'm thinking about it, and as we are on the vault...
I also suspect instance number represent a blade number and that i2049, i2050 constant lag comes form the fact that these two blades have a defective cable towards the back end switch ( or the front end one ) or have failed the autonegiotiation and are set up at 10M half duplex ( or variations of ) instead of being at 1gb full duplex.

Note: blade number can be virtual blades...  and maybe those two virtual blades are located on the same physical server. There's also the idea that I considered previously : that those two blades were originally dedicated to maintenance tasks ( logs, backups, ... ) and that they just added gaming instances on top of it without bothering to check if it could handle both the maintenance tasks and the gaming instances.

ok, just stop - that 130ms vs. 1.2 sec traceroute discussion proves it - they are 1) clueless and 2) dragging everyone who tries to talk sense into their little rabbit hole.