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Sep 17th, 2013 at 7:47pm
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Hey, I haven't really been playing since about two weeks after FoT was released. So I am a bit behind on everything. Are sorcs worthwhile? It was my endgame TR goal for one of my characters and they are nearing the end of their last life. So, just curious what the lowdown on sorcs is.
  

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Reply #1 - Sep 17th, 2013 at 9:15pm
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my sorc raised his spwr about 120+ since the ep, and imo sorcs got a huge damage increase.

i lost wand and scroll mastery which sucks, but over all sorcs are in tip top shape.
  

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Reply #2 - Sep 17th, 2013 at 9:17pm
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Assuming shiradi. Shiradi sorcs are perfectly OK. I think wiz is a litle better, but I'm biased - wiz can have everything out of feats/saves/evasion/hp/mana/dodge/spells/etc but sorcs have to cut something. Sorc you do get wings and knockdown immune though.

You want to go 18sorc/2fvs fire/air, possibly even 16/2/2pal.
  
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Reply #3 - Sep 17th, 2013 at 9:31pm
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cdr wrote on Sep 17th, 2013 at 9:17pm:
Assuming shiradi. Shiradi sorcs are perfectly OK. I think wiz is a litle better, but I'm biased - wiz can have everything out of feats/saves/evasion/hp/mana/dodge/spells/etc but sorcs have to cut something. Sorc you do get wings and knockdown immune though.

You want to go 18sorc/2fvs fire/air, possibly even 16/2/2pal.


I'm a draconic incarnation sorc (because magic missile/force missile/chain missile spam is bashing your head against the wall boring imo) and I'm actually doing better than ever in EEs, and I never had troubles participating in ee whilst in DI.

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Reply #4 - Sep 17th, 2013 at 9:31pm
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Why do you want to split and lose caster levels?
  

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Reply #5 - Sep 17th, 2013 at 9:36pm
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Epoch wrote on Sep 17th, 2013 at 9:31pm:
Why do you want to split and lose caster levels?


2 fvs gives you Just Rewards, a new enhancement that gives you 10 temp sp when you cast a fire or force spell. And also +30 fire/force spellpower enhancement, and 4% crit enhancement.
  
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Epoch wrote on Sep 17th, 2013 at 9:31pm:
Why do you want to split and lose caster levels?


because he plays a shiradi caster Tongue
  

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Reply #7 - Sep 18th, 2013 at 3:24am
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kierg10 wrote on Sep 17th, 2013 at 9:31pm:
I'm a draconic incarnation sorc (because magic missile/force missile/chain missile spam is bashing your head against the wall boring imo)


I'm running a 16/2/2 Shiradi Wiz build, and I have to agree; it's making my eyeballs bleed.  Alright, he's only on his second life and L21 at the moment, but right now I feel like if I'd wanted to nickle-and-dime shit to death I'd have played a goddam pure Arti.

I'm very seriously thinking about using a +20 LR heart and turning a capped toon into a pure DI Sorc just to compare, although I wonder about an air savant's ability to overcome the crazy reflex saves and evasion that all the trash mobs seem to have now   Angry
  

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Reply #8 - Sep 18th, 2013 at 3:48am
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cdr wrote on Sep 17th, 2013 at 9:17pm:
Assuming shiradi. Shiradi sorcs are perfectly OK. I think wiz is a litle better, but I'm biased - wiz can have everything out of feats/saves/evasion/hp/mana/dodge/spells/etc but sorcs have to cut something. Sorc you do get wings and knockdown immune though.

You want to go 18sorc/2fvs fire/air, possibly even 16/2/2pal.


Sorcs probably get slightly higher DPS on bosses mainly due to fire procs and faster casts I think, but I haven't really run numbers.  It would be interesting to see.

  I do agree that wizzies are a lot more attractive relatively speaking vs. sorcs compared to before.
  
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Reply #9 - Sep 18th, 2013 at 5:20am
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Epoch wrote on Sep 17th, 2013 at 7:47pm:
So, just curious what the lowdown on sorcs is.

Better then pre EC.

I got a human DI with all the bells n whistles and it's way more fun to play than a Shiradi. Damage is about the same but you don't want to punch the screen after 2 dungeons. Water with Acid secondary because I'm old school and because single target DPS is better. Immune to cometfalls, poison damage, paralyzation.

Also 59 necro DC on it for shits n giggles, not perfect but good enough to land with a Drain on Stormhorn EEs.
  

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NOTdarth wrote on Sep 18th, 2013 at 5:20am:
Better then pre EC.

I got a human DI with all the bells n whistles and it's way more fun to play than a Shiradi.


I suspected it might be...  pure sorc all the way, or splashed?
  

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Reply #11 - Sep 18th, 2013 at 10:56am
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Draconics are just not mana efficient enough for me... if you enjoy the flavor of mana elixirs, go for it.
  
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Reply #12 - Sep 18th, 2013 at 12:35pm
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Persiflage wrote on Sep 18th, 2013 at 10:47am:
suspected it might be...  pure sorc all the way, or splashed?

Pure.

cdr wrote on Sep 18th, 2013 at 10:56am:
Draconics are just not mana efficient enough for me... if you enjoy the flavor of mana elixirs, go for it.

Mana efficient for soloing, definitely not. In a group of 2+ I haven't had any need to use elixirs.
  

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Reply #13 - Sep 18th, 2013 at 3:23pm
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Epoch wrote on Sep 17th, 2013 at 7:47pm:
Hey, I haven't really been playing since about two weeks after FoT was released. So I am a bit behind on everything. Are sorcs worthwhile? It was my endgame TR goal for one of my characters and they are nearing the end of their last life. So, just curious what the lowdown on sorcs is.


For the current EE content, my guildies that are running sorcs are enjoying them just fine.

I'm running Ysharan as Air with cold backup, but I haven't done a whole lot with him due to working on my tempest ranger/fighter/paladin thing.

Dark's been running as Air with fire backup.
  

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Reply #14 - Sep 18th, 2013 at 4:03pm
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cdr wrote on Sep 18th, 2013 at 10:56am:
Draconics are just not mana efficient enough for me... if you enjoy the flavor of mana elixirs, go for it.



This is my thought.

I want to be able to solo EEs.


BUT, I totally think group play with pure sorcs is legit. Also, I *DO* miss DC casting. :/
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Reply #15 - Sep 18th, 2013 at 5:18pm
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1 more life as a goddang cleric and my main will be back as a sorc where she belongs.  She just hit 20 this morning and I will TR her right as I get home from work. 

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Reply #16 - Sep 18th, 2013 at 8:49pm
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Meat-Head wrote on Sep 18th, 2013 at 4:03pm:
This is my thought.

I want to be able to solo EEs.


BUT, I totally think group play with pure sorcs is legit. Also, I *DO* miss DC casting. :/


Sadly for myself I have recently not found enough time to really try a character for soloing more EEs (soloed one or two pre EP ... in shiradi Sad ... but haven't tried since).....or really for quickly zerging stuffs Sad school has been busy.

Although I probably should just go ahead and try one, but I'm feeling no motivation to play epics but don't wanna TR my sorc and get PLs since I'm satisfied with where that toon is at right now.....just running PLs on my main and maybe on my soon to be artie or some other repeater build toon......
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