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Meli Titan Demolisher Offline Posts: 397 Joined: Jan 30^th, 2014	Re: The 2014 DDO Players Council: Reply #125 - Feb 10^th, 2014 at 6:48pm	Print Post
	Tobril wrote on Feb 10^th, 2014 at 6:34pm: Add another Mournlander to the pile. I lied my ass off to you guys. yeah I respected you for continuing to post and not give a crap about any threats that were never explicitly stated.


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TractorsareEpic Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 381 Joined: Apr 26^th, 2013	Re: The 2014 DDO Players Council: Reply #126 - Feb 10^th, 2014 at 6:51pm	Print Post
	Ssssoooooooooooo, hey maj could we please get the reasoning behind WHY the copy tool isn't up & running? Is it as Flav says is it tied to the machine that had the API on it? Or another reason altogether? Really would like the reasoning/rationale/line of thinking about this....Sigh.


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Meli Titan Demolisher Offline Posts: 397 Joined: Jan 30^th, 2014	Re: The 2014 DDO Players Council: Reply #127 - Feb 10^th, 2014 at 6:51pm	Print Post
	Tobril wrote on Feb 10^th, 2014 at 6:36pm: Fuck that.� I still posted on both forums despite the potential consequences. And that made me respect you because to my mind that threat never made any sense. It was also never very explicitly stated either. Just 'understood'


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Tobril Honourary Australian Offline Hi Welcome Posts: 744 Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010	Re: The 2014 DDO Players Council: Reply #128 - Feb 10^th, 2014 at 6:52pm	Print Post
	TractorsareEpic wrote on Feb 10^th, 2014 at 6:51pm: Ssssoooooooooooo, hey maj could we please get the reasoning behind WHY the copy tool isn't up & running? Is it as Flav says is it tied to the machine that had the API on it? Or another reason altogether? Really would like the reasoning/rationale/line of thinking about this....Sigh. There is a reason, and it's really fucked up.


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TractorsareEpic Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 381 Joined: Apr 26^th, 2013	Re: The 2014 DDO Players Council: Reply #129 - Feb 10^th, 2014 at 7:10pm	Print Post
	Tobril wrote on Feb 10^th, 2014 at 6:52pm: There is a reason, and it's really fucked up. Yes I gathered that, cos no one from Turbine has addressed it directly at all(just cryptically). Anyways, carry on. Sigh.


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Yobai Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4126 Joined: Jul 26^th, 2012	Re: The 2014 DDO Players Council: Reply #130 - Feb 10^th, 2014 at 9:46pm	Print Post
	HairyO wrote on Feb 10^th, 2014 at 6:42pm: There were far less wipes of ML toons than Lamania, and it was very easy to re-gear/level up. It took them far too long to provide the tools on Lamania that were on ML. And they are crazy to not have copy tools working when they open up Lamania. Only the hard core will bother going through the process to get characters leveled up so they are missing out on a huge amount of feedback. maybe eliminating ML so they only have one preview server, will get them to start fixing the character copy shit on Lam.

	Revaulting wrote on Jul 7^th, 2015 at 8:16pm: Have you tried a lower difficulty, such as the official forums?
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HairyO Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 355 Joined: Jun 30^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: The 2014 DDO Players Council: Reply #131 - Feb 10^th, 2014 at 10:08pm	Print Post
	They havent done anything with character copy in the last 2 months - knowing full well ML was shutting down, so I doubt they care a lot. Or more, there are so few people left at Turbine who know how to code, they cant afford to shift them away from the Zynga / XP stone / TR box $$$ earning jobs to fix the non-important stuff like playtesting and bug reporting.


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TractorsareEpic Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 381 Joined: Apr 26^th, 2013	Re: The 2014 DDO Players Council: Reply #132 - Feb 10^th, 2014 at 10:19pm	Print Post
	Ya ditto on the in game bug reporting tool not working for how many months now? I've lost track. Would again LOVE to hear the reasoning/rationale/line of thought as to WHY it's not working/been fixed.


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HairyO Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 355 Joined: Jun 30^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: The 2014 DDO Players Council: Reply #133 - Feb 10^th, 2014 at 10:22pm	Print Post
	If they fixed it they would then have to admit they are ignoring our bug reports. Far better to just make it impossible to report the bugs in the first place.


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arko Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 101 Joined: Jan 22^nd, 2014	Re: The 2014 DDO Players Council: Reply #134 - Feb 10^th, 2014 at 10:43pm	Print Post
	HairyO wrote on Feb 10^th, 2014 at 10:22pm: If they fixed it they would then have to admit they are ignoring our bug reports. Far better to just make it impossible to report the bugs in the first place. http://ddobugs.turbine.com/ not impossible just a bit more of a pain.


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TractorsareEpic Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 381 Joined: Apr 26^th, 2013	Re: The 2014 DDO Players Council: Reply #135 - Feb 10^th, 2014 at 10:48pm	Print Post
	arko wrote on Feb 10^th, 2014 at 10:43pm: http://ddobugs.turbine.com/ not impossible just a bit more of a pain. That's not the point. I'm asking/begging to know the actual freaking reason(hopefully from Maj). WHY the in game bug reporting tool, which they trumpeted about I distinctly remember it was suppose to streamline things & make it easier for QA & make it easier for the players etc to find/catch & report bugs has not been working for these many, many months. That's great there's a work around, that's fine, but again WHY isn't the in game one working properly?


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Bill Z Bubb Boobies Controller Offline I only know three chords! Posts: 1238 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2012	Re: The 2014 DDO Players Council: Reply #136 - Feb 11^th, 2014 at 12:05am	Print Post
	If they couldn't remove the dupe exploited products without resorting to manual intervention, what makes you think they'd ever be able to develop a technological fix to copying characters?

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arko Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 101 Joined: Jan 22^nd, 2014	Re: The 2014 DDO Players Council: Reply #137 - Feb 11^th, 2014 at 2:04am	Print Post
	TractorsareEpic wrote on Feb 10^th, 2014 at 10:48pm: That's not the point. I'm asking/begging to know the actual freaking reason(hopefully from Maj). WHY the in game bug reporting tool, which they trumpeted about I distinctly remember it was suppose to streamline things & make it easier for QA & make it easier for the players etc to find/catch & report bugs has not been working for these many, many months. That's great there's a work around, that's fine, but again WHY isn't the in game one working properly? no you said it was impossible, I was simply pointing out it was not, everything else you said I have no issue with. The tools should be working abd the character copy tool should be working. It should have been a pre req for moving lama to ML status in my opinion. Do I blame the QA staff, no because I am sure they want them working just as much as you do.


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GooFY Abbot Raider Offline Just one of those days... Posts: 771 Location: Washington State Joined: Dec 12^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: The 2014 DDO Players Council: Reply #138 - Feb 11^th, 2014 at 1:31pm	Print Post
	TractorsareEpic wrote on Feb 10^th, 2014 at 10:48pm: That's great there's a work around, that's fine, but again WHY isn't the in game one working properly? It could be that they already have such a huge backlog of stuff to fix. With more work than they will ever get to, why make it easy for folks to add even more potential work to the pile? Don't get me wrong, this is one of my biggest peeves as well. It's a bad joke. I will continue to refuse to take them seriously about "listening to the players" or "quality" until this is fixed, at a minimum.


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NOTSunnyshadow Out of Order Offline Kobold remember waterworks! Posts: 2193 Joined: Jan 24^th, 2014	Re: The 2014 DDO Players Council: Reply #139 - Feb 11^th, 2014 at 1:44pm	Print Post
	Broken bug report = no bugs reported = QUALITY SERVICE!

	En taro Tassadar!
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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9961 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: The 2014 DDO Players Council: Reply #140 - Feb 11^th, 2014 at 4:51pm	Print Post
	Bill Z Bubb wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 12:05am: If they couldn't remove the dupe exploited products without resorting to manual intervention, what makes you think they'd ever be able to develop a technological fix to copying characters? Well if they give me the datamodel I can probably devlop the SQL queries needed. After it's going to be the Chimp's job to integrate them into the website. I have low expectations when it comes to Turbine Web Chimps since the Forum Downgrade. Edit : or they moved all the thing to India and the Indian Chimps are telling them they can't code anything since the software is end of support (sorry got into a fight with Indian colleagues that can't understand that a 2 year software life cycle is plainly retarded when you have telecom operators as customers that think in decades... Just the validation process of a given software is longer than the lifecycle of the software... so when the software is actually loaded on the live network it is already end of support. )
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NOTSunnyshadow Out of Order Offline Kobold remember waterworks! Posts: 2193 Joined: Jan 24^th, 2014	Re: The 2014 DDO Players Council: Reply #141 - Feb 11^th, 2014 at 4:56pm	Print Post
	Why can't they just link the external url onto the bug report feature in-game? I know it's the lazy way out - but better than having no bug report whatsoever in game.

	En taro Tassadar!
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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9961 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: The 2014 DDO Players Council: Reply #142 - Feb 12^th, 2014 at 12:42am	Print Post
	NOTSunnyshadow wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 4:56pm: Why can't they just link the external url onto the bug report feature in-game? I know it's the lazy way out - but better than having no bug report whatsoever in game. It's a problem for the Chimps... Would you trust the Chimps that performed the Forum Downgrade to actually manage to embed a simple URL into the game ? ( remember It's the same Chimps that are unable to generate short URLs for the Store and thus made it mandatory for the Devs to find a workaround named Awesomiumprocess.exe )

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