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Persiflage Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 974 Location: Khyber Joined: Jan 28^th, 2013	Re: Caster/melee druid: where to compromise? Reply #25 - Feb 26^th, 2014 at 8:44am	Print Post
	froggy wrote on Feb 25^th, 2014 at 12:45am: Friend of mine just soloed EE DA in 20 minutes on a 13druid/6ranger/1mnk split.� went 6 ranger for feats and killer buff, and took fatal harrier with the nature's warrior thingy.� I dont like how it doesnt have evasion which is something I really dont like :3� Maybe a variant like 13druid/4ranger/2monk (and the last lvl you can choose where) Uh-huh... that's nice, but very much a melee build, which is absolutely not what we're doing here. I will be going for a similar build (actually, was going to use the same split suggested by Munk) on one of my toons who is currently hung out to dry due to the enhancement pass and still has a +20 heart... if I can figure out the levelling order so I can do it in one pass. Also, unless there's an exploit to speed up the timing of that quest, it can't be done in 20 minutes even if you instakill absolutely freaking everything the second it arrives. Stupid dumb timed waves That said, maybe EE breaks the pattern and stuff turns up faster; I've done it on heroic elite solo at-level, but only in a group on EE and I was rather too busy trying to keep the rest of the party off the deck to notice how long it took

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froggy Stormreaver Piker Offline LUDICROUS SPEED GO!!!!!!! Posts: 539 Location: Georgia Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Caster/melee druid: where to compromise? Reply #26 - Feb 26^th, 2014 at 11:13pm	Print Post
	Persiflage wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 8:44am: Uh-huh...� that's nice, but very much a melee build, which is absolutely not what we're doing here.� I will be going for a similar build (actually, was going to use the same split suggested by Munk) on one of my toons who is currently hung out to dry due to the enhancement pass and still has a +20 heart... if I can figure out the levelling order so I can do it in one pass.� Also, unless there's an exploit to speed up the timing of that quest, it can't be done in 20 minutes even if you instakill absolutely freaking everything the second it arrives.� Stupid dumb timed waves� That said, maybe EE breaks the pattern and stuff turns up faster; I've done it on heroic elite solo at-level, but only in a group on EE and I was rather too busy trying to keep the rest of the party off the deck to notice how long it took Ohhh ok, if your going for caster based druid then Id either do the starting build you had or the 17druid/2mnk/1wizard really, thats really the best as it gets as far as DCs go. But if your problem isnt DCs, and you mainly want to use earthquake and do some melee damage as well you could go 15druid/4ranger/1monk 15druid gets you earthquake and regenerate (herpderp) and 4 ranger gets you killer, and the 1 monk for stances and that 1.5[W] if you plan on twisting that in.

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Persiflage Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 974 Location: Khyber Joined: Jan 28^th, 2013	Re: Caster/melee druid: where to compromise? Reply #27 - Feb 27^th, 2014 at 4:46am	Print Post
	froggy wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 11:13pm: But if your problem isnt DCs, and you mainly want to use earthquake and do some melee damage as well you could go 15druid/4ranger/1monk� 15druid gets you earthquake and regenerate (herpderp) and 4 ranger gets you killer, and the 1 monk for stances and that 1.5[W] if you plan on twisting that in.� I would struggle to give up Evasion, to be honest. Killer is nice - very nice - but I am shooting for the strongest true hybrid and the split gives up too much casting goodness for me. It's not even so much the levels as the 23AP you give up to get it

	stainer wrote on May 16^th, 2013 at 9:26am: Oh you are good. I will be watching you. QuantumFX wrote on Jun 5^th, 2013 at 11:11am: You are an evil human being.� m4lacka wrote on Mar 29^th, 2014 at 7:04am: wow that post hurt a lot more than any of the namecalling i expected. Now I see why ppl consider you evil.
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froggy Stormreaver Piker Offline LUDICROUS SPEED GO!!!!!!! Posts: 539 Location: Georgia Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Caster/melee druid: where to compromise? Reply #28 - Feb 27^th, 2014 at 11:35am	Print Post
	Then go 14druid/4ranger/2monk then But no more earthquake Really evasion is nice but its not needed, when your beguiling things and if your using improved deception x2 (yes it does stack if you get 2 sources of it) mobs will continually shit themselves depending on how many hits per second your doing

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froggy Stormreaver Piker Offline LUDICROUS SPEED GO!!!!!!! Posts: 539 Location: Georgia Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Caster/melee druid: where to compromise? Reply #29 - Feb 27^th, 2014 at 11:36am	Print Post
	that or just ditch killer and go 15druid/3mnk(or just 2 lvls)/2fighter(or something else )

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Persiflage Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 974 Location: Khyber Joined: Jan 28^th, 2013	Re: Caster/melee druid: where to compromise? Reply #30 - May 15^th, 2014 at 4:52am	Print Post
	I have been running the 17/2/1 split for a couple of Epic lives and it is omfglawlzfreakingawesomesauce, albeit that I have taken quite a different feat setup from the lists earlier in the thread. Gearing is difficult though... Does anyone have any clue how to fit +Evo and Improved Deception in without utterly screwing over my DPS? At 28 my DC's are high enough for Eberron EE's and equivalent, but I have to swap in the Sage's Locket to reliably make trash my bitch in L26+ EE's and that means losing the Epic Golden Guile. There just isn't any space in the gear setup, like at all...

	stainer wrote on May 16^th, 2013 at 9:26am: Oh you are good. I will be watching you. QuantumFX wrote on Jun 5^th, 2013 at 11:11am: You are an evil human being.� m4lacka wrote on Mar 29^th, 2014 at 7:04am: wow that post hurt a lot more than any of the namecalling i expected. Now I see why ppl consider you evil.
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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4363 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: Caster/melee druid: where to compromise? Reply #31 - May 15^th, 2014 at 5:35am	Print Post
	I use backstabbers, locket & blue dragon set, my spell power isnt top notch, but it doesnt need to be, when im meleeing my first priority is eq dc's. I carry slotted kamas and halcyon boots to swap in better cold / positive spell power as needed.

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Persiflage Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 974 Location: Khyber Joined: Jan 28^th, 2013	Re: Caster/melee druid: where to compromise? Reply #32 - May 15^th, 2014 at 8:40am	Print Post
	Quite agree on the spellpower thing; the blue dragon set is quite enough for most purposes as I can DPS ten times faster with melee than I can with spells. My gloves are currently 120% fort / 45 false life with a yellow slot, and I'll be damned I know how I'd replace that... The false life is a nice-to-have, but as far as I know, you can't get over 100% fort with an augment :/ On a related note; other than a +2 augment, is there anywhere to slot enchantment DC's that isn't a caster stick? I'm finding Howl of Terror surprisingly useful with a DC of only 49, and it'd be nice to bolster it.

	stainer wrote on May 16^th, 2013 at 9:26am: Oh you are good. I will be watching you. QuantumFX wrote on Jun 5^th, 2013 at 11:11am: You are an evil human being.� m4lacka wrote on Mar 29^th, 2014 at 7:04am: wow that post hurt a lot more than any of the namecalling i expected. Now I see why ppl consider you evil.
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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4363 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: Caster/melee druid: where to compromise? Reply #33 - May 15^th, 2014 at 9:06am	Print Post
	Sages mantle, bit of a waste of a slot imo though. Elders cap and spirit sight, but theyre too old to be relevant

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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Caster/melee druid: where to compromise? Reply #34 - May 15^th, 2014 at 10:40am	Print Post
	Persiflage wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 8:40am: Quite agree on the spellpower thing; the blue dragon set is quite enough for most purposes as I can DPS ten times faster with melee than I can with spells.� My gloves are currently 120% fort / 45 false life with a yellow slot, and I'll be damned I know how I'd replace that...� The false life is a nice-to-have, but as far as I know, you can't get over 100% fort with an augment� :/ On a related note; other than a +2 augment, is there anywhere to slot enchantment DC's that isn't a caster stick?� I'm finding Howl of Terror surprisingly useful with a DC of only 49, and it'd be nice to bolster it. Cannith crafted


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Persiflage Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 974 Location: Khyber Joined: Jan 28^th, 2013	Re: Caster/melee druid: where to compromise? Reply #35 - May 15^th, 2014 at 1:32pm	Print Post
	Alright, so this is what I have... Trinket: Variable, usually perma-blur Head: Blue dragon helm, +3 insight Wis, slotted w/Natural armor & globe Neck: Epic Golden Guile, slotted w/spellpoints Goggles: EE Shadowsight, slotted w/PRR & protection Body: Flawless Blue dragonscale, slotted w/Good Luck +2 Cloak: Deadly X of Resistance X - no slots Belt: Arkat's Cord, slotted w/insight Con & Meridian Fragment Gloves: Fort 120%, False life, slotted w/Featherfall Wrists: Manacles of Ceaseless Toil, slotted w/ Greater Enchant Ring 1: Consuming Darkness, slotted w/ Greater Evocation Ring 2: Stunning +10 Dun Robar ring, no slots Boots: EE Goatskins, slotted w/Dex & Insight Dex I'm not sure what I could even swap out from that list to improve matters :/ Appreciate the input though guys. Cannith Crafting.

	stainer wrote on May 16^th, 2013 at 9:26am: Oh you are good. I will be watching you. QuantumFX wrote on Jun 5^th, 2013 at 11:11am: You are an evil human being.� m4lacka wrote on Mar 29^th, 2014 at 7:04am: wow that post hurt a lot more than any of the namecalling i expected. Now I see why ppl consider you evil.
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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Caster/melee druid: where to compromise? Reply #36 - May 15^th, 2014 at 5:28pm	Print Post
	natural amrour? really?


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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Caster/melee druid: where to compromise? Reply #37 - May 15^th, 2014 at 5:29pm	Print Post
	And how the hell did you slot an orange augment into a not-orange slot?


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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Caster/melee druid: where to compromise? Reply #38 - May 15^th, 2014 at 5:32pm	Print Post
	no soul gem?


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Persiflage Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 974 Location: Khyber Joined: Jan 28^th, 2013	Re: Caster/melee druid: where to compromise? Reply #39 - May 15^th, 2014 at 5:35pm	Print Post
	Eh, I may have got my slots a bit mixed; I was going from memory Those are the things I have slotted... Natural Armor because you can get more from an augment than from the spell. No soul gem. The Meridian Fragment is actually in my Addy Knuckles, so I'm missing an augment from that list somewhere

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