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harharharhar Epic Poster Offline Girthless Trolllicker Posts: 3421 Joined: Aug 31^st, 2012 Gender:	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #75 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 1:38pm	Print Post
	In Eth's video what is he using to stun that stuff? Is that on the buckler? Is he getting Sap to AoE somehow? Sorry I haven't melee'd in like 10 updates.


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #76 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 3:49pm	Print Post
	harharharhar wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 1:38pm: In Eth's video what is he using to stun that stuff? Is that on the buckler? Is he getting Sap to AoE somehow? Sorry I haven't melee'd in like 10 updates. Guardbreaking. it is on the buckler from E3BC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=028hCEzYbwo&t=9m30s
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	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Wipe VoD Slasher Offline Posts: 1917 Joined: Mar 26^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #77 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 6:55pm	Print Post
	It is knockdown on shield vorpal from Stalwart Core. Also Eth says that he has Finesse in that vid and that Dex to dmg doesn't work for throwers. And that shield looks really stupid.


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #78 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 7:04pm	Print Post
	Wipe wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 6:55pm: It is knockdown on shield vorpal from Stalwart Core. Incorrect. see the buckler. gaurdbreaking dazes mobs on crits, so aoe crits= aoe dazes
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	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Wipe VoD Slasher Offline Posts: 1917 Joined: Mar 26^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #79 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 7:08pm	Print Post
	Well it's either one of those things Coup de grace after Daze or knockdown in any case.


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #80 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 7:15pm	Print Post
	Wipe wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 7:08pm: Well it's either one of those things Coup de grace after Daze or knockdown in any case. there is also another cc ability but it is activated melee attack that knocks them down for 1 sec. op bards are op ;p

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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FM Dragon Raider Offline Posts: 263 Joined: Mar 25^th, 2014	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #81 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 7:18pm	Print Post
	Wipe wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 6:55pm: Also Eth says that he has Finesse in that vid and that Dex to dmg doesn't work for throwers. Yup. As of this last build, you have to be a Halfling if you want dex to damage on shurikens for Swashbuckler.


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #82 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 7:21pm	Print Post
	harharharhar wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 1:36pm: swashbuckler is looking awesome. Neil pointed out to me today that the 6 fighter builds are taking tier 3 and 4 defender tree Tier 3 Greater Stalwart Defense: for the 20% HP. At tier 4 get the + 6 con Defensive roll at 600-700 hp? Yes pls!

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #83 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 7:23pm	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 7:15pm: there is also another cc ability but it is activated melee attack that knocks them down for 1 sec. op bards are op ;p And yet another knockdown chance with a built in chance to Knockdown on miss guard.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4339 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #84 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:00pm	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 7:21pm: Neil pointed out to me today that the 6 fighter builds are taking tier 3 and 4 defender tree did you somehow miss that I did that in the previous page?

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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #85 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:07pm	Print Post
	Munkenmo wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:00pm: did you somehow miss that I did that in the previous page? yes, yes i did. lol. Defensive roll at 9. I would have to go 9rog/6ftr/5bard

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4339 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #86 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:33pm	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:07pm: Defensive roll at 9. I would have to go 9rog/6ftr/5bard I know, I really did consider it, but at the end of the day I decided displace costs a lot less AP for a more consistant defensive benefit.

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Wipe VoD Slasher Offline Posts: 1917 Joined: Mar 26^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #87 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:39pm	Print Post
	Don't you need 10 rogue levels for special roguey feats ?


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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4339 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #88 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:50pm	Print Post
	Wipe wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:39pm: Don't you need 10 rogue levels for special roguey feats ? Yeah 10/13/16/19, but don't burst his bubble yet. I wanted him to realise on his own it's impossible to get t5 swashbuckler, defender stance and defensive roll.
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #89 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:51pm	Print Post
	Wipe wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:39pm: Don't you need 10 rogue levels for special roguey feats ? Yes didnt want to see that ;p impossible to be tier 5 swashbuckler, defensive roll, and defender stance.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4339 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #90 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:52pm	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:51pm: Yes didnt want to see that ;p impossible to be tier 5 swashbuckler, defensive roll, and defender stance. So how's 7rogue/7bard/6fighter looking?

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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #91 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 9:12pm	Print Post
	Munkenmo wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:52pm: So how's 7rogue/7bard/6fighter looking? LOl, i like your style You cant defensive roll with 7 rogue. I wantz it ! 10 rog/6ftr/3brd could but loses eploit weakness, and coup de grac/ Has anyone tested the crit ranges on a dummy to see if they were coded properly for handaxe and rapiers? Neil told me he has tested Rapiers and was getting 15-20 w thunderforged rapier in LD

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4339 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #92 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 10:05pm	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 9:12pm: Has anyone tested the crit ranges on a dummy to see if they were coded properly for handaxe and rapiers? I haven't, I downloaded Lam, but every time I try to run the game, after the launcher disappears it takes about 2mins to load the game client, then I get an error saying the log in server is full. It's installed on an SSD and I've tried using the pre-launcher, so no idea what remedies there are. I'm relying on theory crafting cause I can't be fucked downloading the lam client again.

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Trollero Waterworks Kobold Offline Got IDD? Posts: 187 Joined: Feb 1^st, 2014	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #93 - Jun 7^th, 2014 at 2:24pm	Print Post
	Since the char I would make this with has a few displacement clickies already, I am now thinking 13Rogue/5Bard/2Barb. Ear smash.


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #94 - Jun 7^th, 2014 at 4:11pm	Print Post
	Trollero wrote on Jun 7^th, 2014 at 2:24pm: Since the char I would make this with has a few displacement clickies already, I am now thinking 13Rogue/5Bard/2Barb.� Ear smash. I thought about ear smash, 10% speed, and sprint boosts. Ultimately I think 2 fighter levels for the feats offers more. Low Blow can combo with Coup de Grace. And The E3BC buckler dazes on crits. I am leaning towards giving up Sap feat as I dont think it will be needed with Low Blow, and Dazing criticals. Quote: Low Blow: While Swashbuckling and wielding a Buckler in your off hand, activate to perform a shield bash with +2 Critical Threat Range and Multiplier. On hit, knock down affected enemy for one second (Perform + d20 saves for the Knockdown). Costs 10 Spell Points.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #95 - Jun 11^th, 2014 at 10:16pm	Print Post
	Apparently Swahbuckler DOES NOT get Dex to attack.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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froggy Stormreaver Piker Offline LUDICROUS SPEED GO!!!!!!! Posts: 539 Location: Georgia Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #96 - Jun 12^th, 2014 at 12:45am	Print Post
	FlameDragon wrote on May 20^th, 2014 at 12:09am: The most advantage of 16bard should be 'Otto's Irresistible Dance' spell which is the ability to control mob and let bard make dps safely. Such as when meeting a crowd of mob, fascinate them all firstly and then make 'Otto's Irresistible Dance'+dps those mobs one by one. I think 16bard/2ftr/2rog will be classic build for Swashbuckler. This isnt a sound idea since you can just use fascinate then the tier 5 bard thingy that instakills them if they save a fortsave=d20+perform skill

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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #97 - Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 8:10pm	Print Post
	I updated my 13 rogue/ 5 bard/ 2 fighter� build posted here; � http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1400533305/72#72 Fixed Feats, character sheet, and enhancement trees. So far it's been fun. Something different and new. I can sing, and insta kill with 78 perfom DC. DPS is good. Saves are decent. Will is a problem to get to over 50s., Fort can break 60s, and reflex can reach mid 80s. Stuns are bothersome, and disco balls are ugly. It is not higher dps than a wolf with 2wf, but I need something else to do for a while. Figured I'd go get a bard life next with the 12 6 2 build.
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	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Arkat Chonus Christ Offline Hola Bienvenido Posts: 12345 Location: Wyoming Joined: Jul 13^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #98 - Sep 6^th, 2014 at 5:05pm	Print Post
	Anyone care to update their builds or thoughts taking into consideration any Swashbuckler changes made by Turbine since the end of June?
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #99 - Sep 6^th, 2014 at 6:18pm	Print Post
	Arkat wrote on Sep 6^th, 2014 at 5:05pm: Anyone care to update their builds or thoughts taking into consideration any Swashbuckler changes made by Turbine since the end of June? The rogue build I posted now gets to use Improved Defensive Roll, and Stalwart tier 3+ Stance. 12 rogue for Kip Up and Def roll, 5 bard for swash tier 5, and 3 ftr for stance and greater stalwart 20% hp. I couldnt test it because Turbine screwed up the stance and bugged it back to level 6.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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