Ill admit, dint read anything but "Get me completionist, i need abcd lives still"

8 barb/6 bard/6 fighter - Swashbuckling Defender

8 Bard/6 Fighter/6 anything - ^

10 Artie/8 bard/2 anything - Swashbuckling Engineer - Enough ap for Fusilade if you decide to range instead of melee. Personally all 3 builds use Swashbuckler + Envenomed Blade/Cormyrian Paralyzer SS.

Pally is a lil different. I would go Dex build ofc, cuz i love dex builds

8 Pally, 6 Rogue, 6 monk - Roughly 56 Sustainable unbuffed dex by lvl 16, not sure how how you can typically get Str unbuffed at that point. But if you do Pally last, you might not need to worry about Str for OC .


That being said, I did these builds for 9 lives, and blazed through them without hating the base class at all. Very strong defense on the base Bard/Barb builds with Everlasting Sap on everything due to the swashbuckler shield. Soloed just about everythign with them 2-4 levels under the quest level. (Elite Demon Den at 15 "solo" Needed to use 2 hires for the final blow on 2 of the djin )

Rubbinns wrote on Aug 17^th, 2014 at 12:30pm:


Your faith in turbines ability to release a working new system astounds me.

Rubbinns wrote on Aug 17^th, 2014 at 10:31pm:


You can look forward to it, just don't count on it.

Pally 8/ranger 6/monk 6 also works well if you've got monkcher gear.

FakeStrake wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2014 at 10:48am:


Commendations > Vendor > Potions.. Duh?

thanks N

Potion of lasting haste = war wizard comm

didn't see a FoM pot from the vendors

Ah thanks

Well, learning about the war wizard haste pot is not bad. Beats the 30 sec Eberron pots

Yeah started checking out the vendors to see what's out there. One of those things that I run pass and wouldn't bother to check until someone triggers a reason to look, and wouldn't know the item exists.

Seems like it reduces UMDs value. Not complaining, I love the convenience. But had no idea all these valuable effects were available in pot form

Rubbinns wrote on Aug 26^th, 2014 at 4:12am:


KotC sucks.

I would put all of those points into TA or BF trees.

You don't need divine might. You're not using tactics and it only adds 1.5 damage per 4 cha above 10 (14-16 if you have insightful Str gear.)

Unless you maxxed Cha, weapon attachment/handling + TA Str is bound to be more dps. Then you can use the leftover points to get wings.

As for the displacement and GH, those are available in other slots.

Tenser's is nice, but you should be able to reattach after recasting it.

Rubbinns wrote on Aug 26^th, 2014 at 7:10am:


36 is around the break even point (doing the math in my head).

I was referring to the tier 5 acrobat ability that simulates abundant step. I think it's called "vault".

Are you using sireth? Weapon attachment adds 3.5 dmg and handling adds 2.7 per swing in that case. 2 str is 1.5, so 7.7 total. (5 free points to spend with these chosen)

Your DM comes out to 7.5 after insightful str gear...I'm not sure how much you want to value the conditional damage.

I guess DM comes out ahead if you're only using TF stcks.

Still I hate taking it, it's so damn expensive.