So, rules are same type of fort bypass % wont stack, so 2 armor piercing 10% wont be equal to 20% ap, but 10%.

What about EDs? Like grim precision or piercing clarity?

Grim is 5, 10, 15% bypass per tier, Piercing Clar is 5 and 10 respectively. Does it mean lets say GP 10%(tier 2) wont stack with PC 10% and neither with AP 10% item?

Or EDs work differently?

Coz in theory it wud be possible to reach 110% fortification bypass,
gp 15
pc 10
shadowdragonraid piercing wepon 35%
5% guild
25% precision,
20% flawless black dragon scale

So how does this armor piercing thing work?

The 20 from the armor would not stack with the 35 from the weapon. Unless it has changed since last I tested, no item effects stack with each other and all enhancements/ED/feats stack with each other. You would still be able to get 100% fort bypass on a rogue with opportunist.

Best way to test is in pvp. Another player can easily adjust their fortification to avoid statistical modelling.

Regarding undead/mindless constructs: they typically have 100 fort and immunity to sneak attacks.

I don't know if grim precision and piercing clarity stack.

Black dragonscale and dragon's edge are both considered armor piercing and do not stack.

Opportunist is also available to rogues.

Check your effects log and start testing.

m4lacka wrote on Feb 15^th, 2015 at 4:27am:


m4lacka wrote on Feb 14^th, 2015 at 6:32pm:



Adjusted the second quote accordingly..

Vendui wrote on Feb 15^th, 2015 at 11:07pm:


Thx Ollie.

EDIT: Oh, btw do you know if Celestial Champion threat range is competence or it stacks with kensei threat +1?

This is good stuff. It's almost as if we were on a helpful forum.

Scrybe wrote on Feb 16^th, 2015 at 5:26pm:


There was a brief episode when Barcelot acted in a reasonable manner. My theory begins there:

A "good" Barcelot from an alternate reality stumbled into ours. Probably after discovering how to tesseract, or kythe, or some similar L'Engle magic unicorn pegasus bullshit. He was quickly corrupted.

Some time later, we noticed Epoch hadn't been posting. The explanation was obvious:

"Meg" and "Calvin," et. al. from the "good" universe, being both good and stupid, ventured into our reality to "save" us and/or their version of Barcelot from us. They failed abysmally and tragically, winding up kidnapping Epoch instead.

As Rorschach from The Watchmen so eloquently put it:

Quote:


Epoch is posting here again. I don't even want to begin thinking what happened to the "good" universe.

These helpful posts are from refugees from the "good" alternate reality that Epoch destroyed/subjugated/taught to throw balls at garage doors in unison. Surfacing here to be helpful will be their downfall, but they couldn't stop themselves. They will become corrupted, or our m4lacka, Ollie, and 5 Foot Step will hunt them down.

"Useful advice" anomaly explained.

apep wrote on Feb 16^th, 2015 at 1:19am:


i ignored some of those because they are Fort Reductions, not Bypass.. but i suppose if we were to count those...


These are not Considered Bypass or Reduction, but rather both

Bow/Silver slinger already listed above

Blasting/Epic Blasting: 20% fort from Construct like beings.. Works just like Bow/Slinger

Wrack Construct: up to -50%



These Reduce rather than bypass

Destruction/Improved Destruction/Destroying: dont stack together - up to 15%.. 

Insult: 10%

Improved Sunder: 10%

Shield of Condemnation: up to 50%

Touch of Despair: 25%



Quote:


stole this from above.. i fixed an error, i was under the assumption that silver flame bow was 25, but its 20..

alright.. so we then have:

Piercing Clarity: 10%
Precision: 25%
Opportunist: 10%
Grim Precision: 15%
Armor Pierceing: 35% (20% if using Black Scale instead of Thunderforged)
Guild Buff: 5%
--------------------------
100%/85%


Due to Opportunist - requires 10 rogue.. so we will go with a 13 rogue/7 monk

Destruction (weapon or armor): 15%
Sunder: 10%
Touch of Despair: 25%
Insult: 10%

-----------------
160%/145%


+ 20% towards Constructs with Chime on
+ an additional 50% with a high enough Wrack Construct DC

because.. being thorough is important

Revaulting wrote on Feb 16^th, 2015 at 9:05pm:


And the penny drops!  It's all starting to make a little sense.  Keep your guard up, Vautlies, these do-gooders may bring doom upon us all yet. 

They are mere bait for the destroy of worlds, the oncoming darkness...the Epoch.  Trust no-one. 

Just to be safe, you may need to delete your accounts.  Failing that, never post anything insightful, thought-provoking, or helpful for the rest of your Vault existence.  It will be your undoing. 

Thanks for the clarity, Revaulting.  However, you have now marked yourself as a target.  Maybe stay low for a few weeks, sacrifice a few goats, steal some children's candy.  You know the gig.

Revaulting wrote on Feb 16^th, 2015 at 9:05pm:


lol

Revaulting wrote on Feb 16^th, 2015 at 9:05pm:


I will hunt you down...and help you with DDO builds!

crunch wrote on Feb 26^th, 2015 at 9:48am:


hehe, i said fuck the wiki, let somone else do it

HiWelcome wrote on Feb 27^th, 2015 at 5:41pm:


Ive adjusted the wiki on quite a few cases, only to have those changes changed back by some dipshit who thinks the info was right.. Ive since stayed away from that shithole of a wiki..