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DnD Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 155 Joined: Dec 3^rd, 2014	Fortification Bypass Mar 14^th, 2018 at 3:43pm	Print Post
	I am trying to stack fort bypass on my Rogue Mech and this is what I have: Precision feat (25%) Grim Precision (15%) Piercing Clarity (10%) Opportunist (10%) Trapsmith's Workshop guild buff (5%) 65% from feats and buffs Silent Avenger Set (25%) Beast's Mantle (10%) 35% (Do they stack?) Total: 100% if stack or 90% if not. + Assassin's Trick (25%) Destruction (augment) (up to 15%) Up to 40% Situational -- Total: Up to 140% if all stacked. My question is if all these stack/are working and if it necessary to go above 100%.


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Fortification Bypass Reply #1 - Mar 14^th, 2018 at 4:22pm	Print Post
	you can test stacking on ship cannon against its 100% fort. we dont know if anything has over 100% fort.

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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Fortification Bypass Reply #2 - Mar 16^th, 2018 at 11:37am	Print Post
	There's also Armor-Piercing up to 35% and Insightful Armor-Piercing up to 15%. You'll never need more than 100% though. Note that aside from fortification, there is also a binary yes/no "sneak attack immunity" that will still interfere with your sneak attacks (even at 100% bypass) unless you use Assassin's Trick, Wracking Shot, and/or the Shadowdancer capstone.

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harharharhar Epic Poster Offline Girthless Trolllicker Posts: 3421 Joined: Aug 31^st, 2012 Gender:	Re: Fortification Bypass Reply #3 - Mar 16^th, 2018 at 5:43pm	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 11:37am: There's also Armor-Piercing up to 35% and Insightful Armor-Piercing up to 15%. You'll never need more than 100% though. Note that aside from fortification, there is also a binary yes/no "sneak attack immunity" that will still interfere with your sneak attacks (even at 100% bypass) unless you use Assassin's Trick, Wracking Shot, and/or the Shadowdancer capstone. or Gloom from Shadr Kai tree


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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	Re: Fortification Bypass Reply #4 - Mar 17^th, 2018 at 5:34am	Print Post
	DnD wrote on Mar 14^th, 2018 at 3:43pm: Silent Avenger Set (25%) Beast's Mantle (10%) 35% (Do they stack?) They claim that effects from different filigree sets will stack, so you could potentially park 7 +1 con filigree on a weapon or whatever.� But surprise surprise there's a lot of bugs with the filigree so really it's a crapshoot. Rubbinns wrote on Mar 14^th, 2018 at 4:22pm: we dont know if anything has over 100% fort. There's a quote from a dev kicking around somewhere that says that even the lord of blades left his heavy fort item at home and only has 75% fort, and that nothing in game has more than 75% fort.� But that has to be many years old and who knows now. 5 Foot Step wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 11:37am: Note that aside from fortification, there is also a binary yes/no "sneak attack immunity" that will still interfere with your sneak attacks (even at 100% bypass) unless you use Assassin's Trick, Wracking Shot, and/or the Shadowdancer capstone. What about deception/improved deception?
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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Fortification Bypass Reply #5 - Mar 17^th, 2018 at 3:37pm	Print Post
	harharharhar wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 5:43pm: or Gloom from Shadr Kai tree Gloom stalker is just another enabler (like deception), it doesn't remove immunity. Frank wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 5:34am: What about deception/improved deception? Yes, you still need deception or to not have aggro to enable sneak attack in the first place. So any sneak attack build fighting your typical undead will want to make sure they get all three: sneak attack enabled, immunity removed, and fort bypassed. Frank wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 5:34am: There's a quote from a dev kicking around somewhere that says that even the lord of blades left his heavy fort item at home and only has 75% fort, and that nothing in game has more than 75% fort.� But that has to be many years old and who knows now. That was when they went back and gave every purple name at least a little fort. I think they meant to say that no raid boss has more that 75%, but I think that is still wrong, because I'm pretty sure the Black Abbot is at 100%.
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Edrein Abbot Raider Offline Master of Melee Undead (Gimps) Posts: 987 Joined: Mar 17^th, 2014	Re: Fortification Bypass Reply #6 - Mar 18^th, 2018 at 3:17am	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 3:37pm: Gloom stalker is just another enabler (like deception), it doesn't remove immunity. Yes, you still need deception or to not have aggro to enable sneak attack in the first place. So any sneak attack build fighting your typical undead will want to make sure they get all three: sneak attack enabled, immunity removed, and fort bypassed. That was when they went back and gave every purple name at least a little fort. I think they meant to say that no raid boss has more that 75%, but I think that is still wrong, because I'm pretty sure the Black Abbot is at 100%. Abbot is undead, thus automatic 100% fort iirc.


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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Fortification Bypass Reply #7 - Mar 18^th, 2018 at 11:09am	Print Post
	Edrein wrote on Mar 18^th, 2018 at 3:17am: Abbot is undead, thus automatic 100% fort iirc. I've seen Death Knights with zero fortification. I've also seen some undead mobs lacking sneak attack immunity (vampires I think). Of course, both are probably just half-assed coding, so they are bound to vary with content. It's all a crapshoot.

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