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Re: No-Brainer DPS Paladin
Reply #125 - Sep 3rd, 2020 at 11:40pm
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Quiver and upgraded Blackrazor are obviously optional, so you're complaining about 1 piece of raid loot?

But Bloodrage Chrism is too good to ignore. If there's any way that you can beg borrow or steal Baba completions, you should.

Otherwise just use whatever. Bone Figurine maybe?
  

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Reply #126 - Sep 4th, 2020 at 12:04pm
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I wouldn't say "complaining" - just that due to my work schedule I don't get to raid anymore. Plus there aren't a ton of baba runs on my server these days. Didn't realize it was only the 1 raid item Tongue
  

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Reply #127 - Sep 4th, 2020 at 1:27pm
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My main grind right now is Chrism. I made an Alt 17/3 fvs/pally tank healer just to run that raid, kt, and shroud for mats/runes.

With a healer you can initiate baba runs no problem. I filled one yesterday at like 8am pacific. There were 42 people online lvl 26-30, and we filled one.

I run it Friday and Tuesdays with my main.

Chrism is not optional. But, like 5ft mentioned, I’m using bone figurine until I get it. Pulled spite, fate, and tremor, though in case I want to try thrower again..

Point is, baba is pretty easy, and they still fill fine. I usually just pug hards.
  


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Re: No-Brainer DPS Paladin
Reply #128 - Sep 4th, 2020 at 2:34pm
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...I in fact have a lvl 30 fvs. I should start leading raids with him. Have to find all his gear again...
  

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Re: No-Brainer DPS Paladin
Reply #129 - Oct 9th, 2020 at 11:34am
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Head-Meat wrote on Sep 4th, 2020 at 1:27pm:
My main grind right now is Chrism. I made an Alt 17/3 fvs/pally tank healer just to run that raid, kt, and shroud for mats/runes.


Excuse my ignorance. Is your plan to use a Wish to switch the Chrism if it drops to your main? Or switch your alt to your Chrism build if they get it?
  
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Reply #130 - Oct 9th, 2020 at 12:12pm
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Everling wrote on Oct 9th, 2020 at 11:34am:
Excuse my ignorance. Is your plan to use a Wish to switch the Chrism if it drops to your main? Or switch your alt to your Chrism build if they get it?


Raid runes are BtA
  
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Reply #131 - Oct 9th, 2020 at 1:21pm
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Right yes. Dur.
  
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Reply #132 - Oct 19th, 2020 at 8:13pm
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what about pally now, with Feydark Cha to hit and dmg?
  
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Reply #133 - Oct 19th, 2020 at 9:51pm
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Meh
  

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Re: No-Brainer DPS Paladin
Reply #134 - Oct 20th, 2020 at 2:09am
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S_O_B wrote on Oct 19th, 2020 at 8:13pm:
what about pally now, with Feydark Cha to hit and dmg?


I'd rather take Extra turns instead of Magical Training and spend 7AP for actualy DPS things.
  

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Reply #135 - Oct 20th, 2020 at 10:37pm
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OTOH, if anyone has a method to get points into FI without wasting a feat, go ahead and PM me.
  

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Reply #136 - Nov 20th, 2020 at 9:41pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Oct 20th, 2020 at 10:37pm:
OTOH, if anyone has a method to get points into FI without wasting a feat, go ahead and PM me.


Aasimar T4 Racial Enhancement "Celestial Tutelage" can provide the feat Magical Training. In case you felt like changing races.
  
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Reply #137 - Dec 7th, 2020 at 8:05pm
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What is more DPS: Wood Elf with Tail of Suulomades or Scourge with Tremor? Assuming many racial points.
  
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Reply #138 - Dec 9th, 2020 at 9:33am
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Tremor probably? IDK, I'm sticking with Blackrazor.
  

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Re: No-Brainer DPS Paladin
Reply #139 - Dec 9th, 2020 at 2:34pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 9th, 2020 at 9:33am:
Tremor probably? IDK, I'm sticking with Blackrazor.



Have you been able to get more than ~25k dps with it? If so, how so?
  


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Re: No-Brainer DPS Paladin
Reply #140 - Dec 9th, 2020 at 4:43pm
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Head-Meat wrote on Dec 9th, 2020 at 2:34pm:
Have you been able to get more than ~25k dps with it? If so, how so?


Consume souls. I suppose a build post is in order.
  

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Reply #141 - Dec 9th, 2020 at 6:33pm
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This was always intended as a low investment, high return alt, so providing 32pt/83AP setup as well.

No-Brainer v3.1
Race: Bladeforged
Alignment: Lawful Good
Class: 20 Paladin


Stats: (32 pt build)
Strength............18 + level ups
Dexterity............7 (+6 tome or better required)
Constitution.......16
Intelligence.........9
Wisdom..............6 (tome recommended)
Charisma...........15

(36 pt build)
Strength............18 + level ups
Dexterity............7 (+6 tome or better required)
Constitution.......16
Intelligence.........8
Wisdom..............6 (tome recommended)
Charisma...........17

Feat Progression
Level 1: Two Handed Fighting
Level 3: Adamantine Body
Level 6: Improved Two Handed Fighting
Level 9: Improved Critical: Slashing
Level 12 : Greater Two handed Fighting
Level 15 : Precision
Level 18 : Weapon focus Slashing
Level 21 : Overwhelming Critical
Level 24 : Construct Exemplar
Level 26 : Perfect Two Handed Fighting
Level 27 : Child of Faith
Level 28 : Elusive Target
Level 29 : Dire Charge
Level 30 : Beloved of the Divine
Level 30 : Scion of Arborea

Enhancements 83 AP

Knight of the Chalice:41 AP
Core 6/6
Extra Smite 3/3
Improved Second Strikes 3/3
MP Boost 3/3
Divine Might 3/3
Exalted Smite 3/3 (6 AP)
Holy Combatant (2 AP)
STR+1
STR+1
Knight's Training (2 AP)
Censure Demons/Outsiders 2/2
Vigor of Life 2/2 (4 AP)
Ascendancy (2 AP)
Holy Retribution

Sacred Defender:13 AP
Core 2/6
Extra Lay on Hands 2/3
Armor Mastery 3/3
Durable Defense 3/3
Strong Defense 3/3

Racial: 23 AP
Core 2/5
Healer's Friend 3/3
Communion of Scribing 3/3 (6 AP)
Tactics 3/3
Great Weapon Aptitude 3/3
Power of the Forge
Soulbound Plating (2 AP)
Weapon Attachment
Communion of handling

Falconry: 6 AP
Cores 1/6
Rugged 3/3
Out in Nature 1/3
Sprint Boost 1/3

(for 95 AP, add LoH 3/3, Resilient Defense 3/3, Cha +1, Item defense 1/3, Hardy defense 3/3, Swift Defense, Reinforced Armor 1/3)

Epic Destiny: Divine Crusader 25 pts
Purge the Wicked
Interrogation
Endless Turning 3/3
Str+1

Consecration 3/3
Confront Any Foe

Sacred Ground
Blessed Blades

Crusade

Celestial Champion
Heavenly Presence

Strike Down
Wrath of the Divine (+10 to hit & damage)

Twists: 4/3/1/1
Martial Hymn
Meld
Energy Sheath (Might as well keep is slotted full time nowadays)
Legendary Tactics

(4/3/3/1/1: add Endless LoH)

Gear:

Umbral Soul Docent: Fortification +94%/+214%, Physical Sheltering +19/+54, Repair Amplification +30/+85, False Life +29/+81
Tharne's Goggles: True Seeing, Deception 18, Enhanced Ghostly, Diversion 34%
Titania's Glory: Crown of Summer, Extra Smites, Hallowed 21, Eternal Holy Burst
Family Recruit Sigil Necklace: True Seeing, Armor Piercing +12/+33, Deadly +6/+17, Relentless Fury
Bloodrage Chrism (Trinket) Healing Amp +83, Calamitous Blows, Bloodrage Defense, Rune-Fueled Warding, Blue Slot, Green Slot, Unnatural
Legendary Cloak of Summer: Fire Absorb 50%, Strength 21, Ins Strength 10, Doublestrike 23
Legendary Belt of the Ram: Ram's Might, Speed 30, Quality Str 5, Constitution 21
The Bloodsigil Ring: Quality Combat Mastery 5, Quality Deception 5, Quality Deadly 5
Hamfisted Gloves: Insightful Doublestrike, Cannith Combat Infusion, Seeker +8/+21, Insightful Deadly +2/+8
Legendary Shackles: Sheltering 45/Accuracy 28, Vertigo 20/Quality Cha 5
Legendart Lionheart Ring: Stunning 23, Action Boost Enhancement, Insightful Armor-Piercing 16, Insightful Con 10
Legendary Vambraces of the Summer Court: Insightful Seeker 10, Insightful Doublestrike 11, Extra Smite, Charisma 21
Epic Quiver of Alacrity: Ranged Speed 30, -50 Concentration, Insightful Sneak Attack 4
The Reflection of Blackrazor Greatsword Damage Dice: 7[2d6+6] (+2W from Keen), Soul Devouring: On hit, applies a stack of Soul Scar - Reduces AC, Fortification, and Will Saves by 1, stacks 20 times. On hit, Blackrazor can attempt to devour the Soul of a non-boss monster (DC 100 Phantasmal Killer vs Will negates, no effect vs mobs at 5,000 or more HP). When you kill a target, this adds a stack of Devoured Soul to you, max 20, which provides a profane bonus of 1 to Damage and Melee power per stack. On Block or unequip, consumed souls are released. Souls last for 20 seconds, Keen V, Entropic (Bane damage on hit), Vampirism 4d2, Mind Control Immunity, Ruby of the Vampire Slayer, Meteoric Star Ruby

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Augments: TBD

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Weapon Damage
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Melee Power:· 368
Doublestrike: 121%
Strikethrough: 215%
Fortification Bypass: 119%
Dodge Bypass: 0%
Helpless Damage bonus: 70%

Sneak Attack Attack bonus: 26
Sneak Attack Damage: 3d6+40

Main Hand: The Reflection of Blackrazor
On Hit· · · · ·7.75[2D6+6]+225· + (1D4 Light) * Melee Power + 1D8 Light + 2D6 Light + 3D6 Light + 5D6 Light + 7D6 Light + 9D6 Untyped + 6D6 Rust + 1D6 Good + 14D6 Sonic
Critical 15-18 (7.75[2D6+6]+222) * 3· + 9D6 Untyped + 6D6 Rust + 1D10 Good + 14D6 Sonic
Critical 19-20 (7.75[2D6+6]+222) * 4· + 9D6 Untyped + 6D6 Rust + 1D10 Good + 14D6 Sonic
DR Bypass: Adamantine, Lawful, Good, Magic, Crystal, Slash

Tactical DCs
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Sunder· · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·Fortitude vs 95 : 10 + Str Mod(43) + Sunder(42)
Trip· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·Balance vs 115 : 10 + Str Mod(43) + Trip(62)
Dire Charge · · · · · · · · · · · ·Fortitude vs 128 : 20 + Max Mod(Str(43), Dex(5), Con(26), Int(16), Wis(5), Cha(28)) + Stun(65)
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Re: No-Brainer DPS Paladin
Reply #142 - Dec 10th, 2020 at 6:51am
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Head-Meat wrote on Dec 9th, 2020 at 2:34pm:
Have you been able to get more than ~25k dps with it? If so, how so?


How do you calculate that?

I am curious between Greatsword, Falchion and Maul.
  
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Reply #143 - Dec 10th, 2020 at 10:29am
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DnD wrote on Dec 10th, 2020 at 6:51am:
How do you calculate that?

I am curious between Greatsword, Falchion and Maul.



Timed rednamed beat down.

R5 Bruntsmash. He’s the first red named in Cabal for One (GH).

1. Note his hit points (140k to 170k)
2. Buff
3. Use timer or note a buff time
4. Beat down
5. Note time
6. Calculate dps (hit points * skull modifier / time taken to kill = dps)
  


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Reply #144 - Feb 13th, 2021 at 6:04pm
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If you are going to be swinging weapons with Keen anyway (and you are going to have Keen because everything worth swinging has it aside from eSoS) would it make sense to put on IC Bludgeoning for the occasional time when you need to switch to a bludgeoning weapon? Is there even a time for bludgeoning in end game? I’m not sure I can think of a time when I want to switch. Still, a feat taken only as a prerequisite could at least occasionally be useful instead of never (aside from eSoS)
  
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Reply #145 - Feb 13th, 2021 at 6:44pm
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NOTpopejubal wrote on Feb 13th, 2021 at 6:04pm:
If you are going to be swinging weapons with Keen anyway (and you are going to have Keen because everything worth swinging has it aside from eSoS) would it make sense to put on IC Bludgeoning for the occasional time when you need to switch to a bludgeoning weapon? Is there even a time for bludgeoning in end game? I’m not sure I can think of a time when I want to switch. Still, a feat taken only as a prerequisite could at least occasionally be useful instead of never (aside from eSoS)


That makes sense if you don't have Tremor.

Still you'd want IC slashing for leveling so either do the PITA 2-3 feat swaps at cap to switch it around or wait to take OC until 30.

Or just get a Tremor.
  

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Reply #146 - Feb 13th, 2021 at 6:57pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Feb 13th, 2021 at 6:44pm:
That makes sense if you don't have Tremor.

Still you'd want IC slashing for leveling so either do the PITA 2-3 feat swaps at cap to switch it around or wait to take OC until 30.

Or just get a Tremor.

I don’t play evenings or weekends much. Only have time to play during my work hours. Hoping I’ll get one eventually, though.

And when they raise the level cap, they’re going to add weapons that drop in regular quests that beat out the current raid weapons, so I figure I’m not going to stress too much about chasing raid gear. But Tremor is a good point, so it’s mostly just a question of “how much work do I want to put in to situations where the fear will come in to play” vs “how much work is it to change the feat after passing through the levels where I will care about it.”

Thank you for the response - it gave me a little bit different way of looking at a build process.
  
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Reply #147 - Feb 14th, 2021 at 1:37pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 9th, 2020 at 6:33pm:
This was always intended as a low investment, high return alt, so providing 32pt/83AP setup as well.

No-Brainer v3.1
Race: Bladeforged
Alignment: Lawful Good
Class: 20 Paladin


Stats: (32 pt build)
Strength............18 + level ups
Dexterity............7 (+6 tome or better required)
Constitution.......16
Intelligence.........9
Wisdom..............6 (tome recommended)
Charisma...........15

(36 pt build)
Strength............18 + level ups
Dexterity............7 (+6 tome or better required)
Constitution.......16
Intelligence.........8
Wisdom..............6 (tome recommended)
Charisma...........17

Feat Progression
Level 1: Two Handed Fighting
Level 3: Adamantine Body
Level 6: Improved Two Handed Fighting
Level 9: Improved Critical: Slashing
Level 12 : Greater Two handed Fighting
Level 15 : Precision
Level 18 : Weapon focus Slashing
Level 21 : Overwhelming Critical
Level 24 : Construct Exemplar
Level 26 : Perfect Two Handed Fighting
Level 27 : Child of Faith
Level 28 : Elusive Target
Level 29 : Dire Charge
Level 30 : Beloved of the Divine
Level 30 : Scion of Arborea

Enhancements 83 AP

Knight of the Chalice:41 AP
Core 6/6
Extra Smite 3/3
Improved Second Strikes 3/3
MP Boost 3/3
Divine Might 3/3
Exalted Smite 3/3 (6 AP)
Holy Combatant (2 AP)
STR+1
STR+1
Knight's Training (2 AP)
Censure Demons/Outsiders 2/2
Vigor of Life 2/2 (4 AP)
Ascendancy (2 AP)
Holy Retribution

Sacred Defender:13 AP
Core 2/6
Extra Lay on Hands 2/3
Armor Mastery 3/3
Durable Defense 3/3
Strong Defense 3/3

Racial: 23 AP
Core 2/5
Healer's Friend 3/3
Communion of Scribing 3/3 (6 AP)
Tactics 3/3
Great Weapon Aptitude 3/3
Power of the Forge
Soulbound Plating (2 AP)
Weapon Attachment
Communion of handling

Falconry: 6 AP
Cores 1/6
Rugged 3/3
Out in Nature 1/3
Sprint Boost 1/3

(for 95 AP, add LoH 3/3, Resilient Defense 3/3, Cha +1, Item defense 1/3, Hardy defense 3/3, Swift Defense, Reinforced Armor 1/3)

Epic Destiny: Divine Crusader 25 pts
Purge the Wicked
Interrogation
Endless Turning 3/3
Str+1

Consecration 3/3
Confront Any Foe

Sacred Ground
Blessed Blades

Crusade

Celestial Champion
Heavenly Presence

Strike Down
Wrath of the Divine (+10 to hit & damage)

Twists: 4/3/1/1
Martial Hymn
Meld
Energy Sheath (Might as well keep is slotted full time nowadays)
Legendary Tactics

(4/3/3/1/1: add Endless LoH)

Gear:

Umbral Soul Docent: Fortification +94%/+214%, Physical Sheltering +19/+54, Repair Amplification +30/+85, False Life +29/+81
Tharne's Goggles: True Seeing, Deception 18, Enhanced Ghostly, Diversion 34%
Titania's Glory: Crown of Summer, Extra Smites, Hallowed 21, Eternal Holy Burst
Family Recruit Sigil Necklace: True Seeing, Armor Piercing +12/+33, Deadly +6/+17, Relentless Fury
Bloodrage Chrism (Trinket) Healing Amp +83, Calamitous Blows, Bloodrage Defense, Rune-Fueled Warding, Blue Slot, Green Slot, Unnatural
Legendary Cloak of Summer: Fire Absorb 50%, Strength 21, Ins Strength 10, Doublestrike 23
Legendary Belt of the Ram: Ram's Might, Speed 30, Quality Str 5, Constitution 21
The Bloodsigil Ring: Quality Combat Mastery 5, Quality Deception 5, Quality Deadly 5
Hamfisted Gloves: Insightful Doublestrike, Cannith Combat Infusion, Seeker +8/+21, Insightful Deadly +2/+8
Legendary Shackles: Sheltering 45/Accuracy 28, Vertigo 20/Quality Cha 5
Legendart Lionheart Ring: Stunning 23, Action Boost Enhancement, Insightful Armor-Piercing 16, Insightful Con 10
Legendary Vambraces of the Summer Court: Insightful Seeker 10, Insightful Doublestrike 11, Extra Smite, Charisma 21
Epic Quiver of Alacrity: Ranged Speed 30, -50 Concentration, Insightful Sneak Attack 4
The Reflection of Blackrazor Greatsword Damage Dice: 7[2d6+6] (+2W from Keen), Soul Devouring: On hit, applies a stack of Soul Scar - Reduces AC, Fortification, and Will Saves by 1, stacks 20 times. On hit, Blackrazor can attempt to devour the Soul of a non-boss monster (DC 100 Phantasmal Killer vs Will negates, no effect vs mobs at 5,000 or more HP). When you kill a target, this adds a stack of Devoured Soul to you, max 20, which provides a profane bonus of 1 to Damage and Melee power per stack. On Block or unequip, consumed souls are released. Souls last for 20 seconds, Keen V, Entropic (Bane damage on hit), Vampirism 4d2, Mind Control Immunity, Ruby of the Vampire Slayer, Meteoric Star Ruby

Filigree: TBD

Augments: TBD

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Weapon Damage
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Melee Power:· 368
Doublestrike: 121%
Strikethrough: 215%
Fortification Bypass: 119%
Dodge Bypass: 0%
Helpless Damage bonus: 70%

Sneak Attack Attack bonus: 26
Sneak Attack Damage: 3d6+40

Main Hand: The Reflection of Blackrazor
On Hit· · · · ·7.75[2D6+6]+225· + (1D4 Light) * Melee Power + 1D8 Light + 2D6 Light + 3D6 Light + 5D6 Light + 7D6 Light + 9D6 Untyped + 6D6 Rust + 1D6 Good + 14D6 Sonic
Critical 15-18 (7.75[2D6+6]+222) * 3· + 9D6 Untyped + 6D6 Rust + 1D10 Good + 14D6 Sonic
Critical 19-20 (7.75[2D6+6]+222) * 4· + 9D6 Untyped + 6D6 Rust + 1D10 Good + 14D6 Sonic
DR Bypass: Adamantine, Lawful, Good, Magic, Crystal, Slash

Tactical DCs
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Sunder· · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·Fortitude vs 95 : 10 + Str Mod(43) + Sunder(42)
Trip· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·Balance vs 115 : 10 + Str Mod(43) + Trip(62)
Dire Charge · · · · · · · · · · · ·Fortitude vs 128 : 20 + Max Mod(Str(43), Dex(5), Con(26), Int(16), Wis(5), Cha(28)) + Stun(65)
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Why are you taking Quality Charisma instead of Quality Constitution on your Legendary Shackles? (BTW, it should be +4, not +5)
  

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Re: No-Brainer DPS Paladin
Reply #148 - Feb 14th, 2021 at 2:08pm
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Technomage wrote on Feb 14th, 2021 at 1:37pm:
Why are you taking Quality Charisma instead of Quality Constitution on your Legendary Shackles?


Because Cha is more important than Con on a Pally. I realize that is going to be contentious to some people, but it really shouldn't be. +Con just affects HP and fort saves. +Cha gives you fort, ref, will, to hit, dmg, tactics dc, cha skills, and increased multiplier on your smites and LoH.

Technomage wrote on Feb 14th, 2021 at 1:37pm:
(BTW, it should be +4, not +5)


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Re: No-Brainer DPS Paladin
Reply #149 - Feb 16th, 2021 at 1:52pm
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If this is a thread about No-brains, Nomoreo should really be jumping on the chance to post in a thread that he is so qualified to.
  

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