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Sonilasfx Korthos Resident Offline : ] Posts: 75 Location: Brazil - Jo�o Pessoa/PB Joined: Dec 28^th, 2016 Gender:	Re: U25 Wolf Reply #200 - Oct 21^st, 2017 at 5:15am	Print Post
	ok I liked your point. but 6 monk = dont get OC, Master of Forms and Grandmaster of Forms... no have feat :,( Rubbinns wrote on Oct 20^th, 2017 at 2:24pm: for best trash dps 10d/6m/4ra harrier, killer, henshin, ninja spy. i did a compilation 9D/6M/5R, why not 10 D? 5 of ranger get 2nd Favored Enemy but 10D +1 spell lvl 5... i prefered 2nd Favored Enemy. -9D/6M/5R dont have feat for OC, Master of Forms and Grandmaster of Forms. -11D/6R/3M dont have feat OC and Grandmaster of Forms. -Browsing DDO Forum, I found another setting "12M/6R/2D" https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/488455-Wolf-Builds-Where-are-we-at?p=6... Would a good choice white wolf for wolf? humm maybe... 11D/6R/3M have more dps that 9D/6M/ 5R? 11D/6R/3M = Master of Forms + Frostbite spell + Exposing Strike 9D / 6M / 5R = +10 Melee Power + Shadow Viel many doubts Xdd Which one is the best? which would you choose? Bluid 1 9/6/5 Druid/Monk/Ranger Lawful Neutral Human Level Order 1. Ranger� �� 6. Druid� �� 11. Druid� �� 16. Druid 2. Monk� �� 7. Ranger� �� 12. Druid� �� 17. Druid 3. Ranger� �� 8. Druid� �� 13. Monk� �� 18. Druid 4. Druid� �� 9. Monk� �� 14. Monk� �� 19. Ranger 5. Druid� �� 10. Monk� �� 15. Monk� �� 20. Ranger Stats � �� 36pt� �� Tome� �� Level Up � �� ----� �� ----� �� -------- Strength� �� 18� �� +4� �� 4: STR Dexterity� �� 14� �� +4� �� 8: STR Constitution� � 14� �� +4� �� 12: STR Intelligence� � 12� �� +4� �� 16: STR Wisdom� �� 12� �� +4� �� 20: STR Charisma� �� 8� �� +4� �� 24: STR � �� 28: STR Feats 1� �� : Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning 1 Human� : Weapon Focus: Slashing 1 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Undead 2 Monk� �: Single Weapon Fighting 3� �� : Completionist OR Weapon Focus: Piercing 5 Druid� : Wild Shape 1: Wolf 6� �� : Weapon Focus: Piercing OR Stunning Blow 9� �� : Improved Single Weapon Fighting 9 Monk� �: Precision 10 Monk� �: Path of Harmonious Balance 11 Druid� : Wild Shape 1: Bear 12� �� : Improved Critical: Bludgeoning 15� �� : Greater Single Weapon Fighting 15 Monk� �: Dodge OR Improved Trip 17 Druid� : Wild Shape 2: Winter Wolf 18� �� : Natural Fighting 20 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Elf 21 Epic� �: Improved Two Weapon Fighting 24 Epic� �: Greater Two Weapon Fighting 26 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting 27 Epic� �: Natural Fighting 28 Destiny: First Blood 29 Destiny: Dire Charge OR Harbinger of Chaos 30 Epic� �: Natural Fighting 30 Legend : Scion of: Arborea Bluid 2 11/6/3 Druid/Ranger/Monk Lawful Neutral Human Level Order 1. Ranger� �� 6. Druid� �� 11. Ranger� �� 16. Druid 2. Monk� �� 7. Druid� �� 12. Ranger� �� 17. Druid 3. Ranger� �� 8. Druid� �� 13. Ranger� �� 18. Druid 4. Druid� �� 9. Druid� �� 14. Monk� �� 19. Monk 5. Druid� �� 10. Ranger� �� 15. Druid� �� 20. Druid Stats � �� 36pt� �� Tome� �� Level Up � �� ----� �� ----� �� -------- Strength� �� 18� �� +4� �� 4: STR Dexterity� �� 14� �� +4� �� 8: STR Constitution� � 14� �� +4� �� 12: STR Intelligence� � 12� �� +4� �� 16: STR Wisdom� �� 12� �� +4� �� 20: STR Charisma� �� 8� �� +4� �� 24: STR � �� 28: STR Feats 1� �� : Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning 1 Human� : Weapon Focus: Piercing 1 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Undead 2 Monk� �: Single Weapon Fighting 3� �� : Completionist OR Weapon Focus: Slashing OR Stunning Blow 5 Druid� : Wild Shape 1: Wolf 6� �� : Adept of Forms 8 Druid� : Wild Shape 1: Bear 9� �� : Improved Single Weapon Fighting 12� �� : Improved Critical: Bludgeoning 12 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider 14 Monk� �: Precision 15� �� : Greater Single Weapon Fighting 16 Druid� : Wild Shape 2: Winter Wolf 18� �� : Greater Two Weapon Fighting 19 Monk� �: Path of Harmonious Balance 20 Druid� : Wild Shape 2: Dire Bear 21 Epic� �: Master of Forms 24 Epic� �: Natural Fighting 26 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting 27 Epic� �: Natural Fighting 28 Destiny: First Blood 29 Destiny: Dire Charge 30 Epic� �: Natural Fighting 30 Legend : Scion of: Arborea

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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: U25 Wolf Reply #201 - Oct 21^st, 2017 at 8:18am	Print Post
	Sonilasfx wrote on Oct 21^st, 2017 at 5:15am: i did a compilation 9D/6M/5R, why not 10 D? 5 of ranger get 2nd Favored Enemy but 10D +1 spell lvl 5... i prefered 2nd Favored Enemy. Yeah, 5 ranger is better than 10th druid level.
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	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Sonilasfx Korthos Resident Offline : ] Posts: 75 Location: Brazil - Jo�o Pessoa/PB Joined: Dec 28^th, 2016 Gender:	Re: U25 Wolf Reply #202 - Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 2:23am	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Oct 21^st, 2017 at 8:18am: I would need to get on lama and test the builds to see what comes out ahead. Honestly though since the tempest tier 5 nerf, I'm not sure how far ahead the 9/6/5 is vs Eth's 12/6/2 monk icon, or vs the 9/6/5 non-monk kensei version. I estimate the 9/6/5 monk version to be around 25k dps and I was told Eth's is 20k. When you're in that dps range it really comes down to preference and Eth's version has way more auxiliary benefits in improved evasion, epic reflexes, quick draw feat from henshin core 12, and 10% extra movement speed. test on LAMA would be excellent!!! -Feats: Scion of the Ethereal Plane > Scion of Arborea? Ethereal Plane have more dps when have skill 23 point+Enhancement+spells+item? -Enhancements: Bluid 9D/6M/5R What would be the best choice? Enhancements (80 AP) Deepwood Stalker (23 AP) Far Shot, Sneak Attack Favored Defense I, Stealthy III, Increased Empathy III, Versatile Empathy II Melee/Range Power Boost III Thrill of the Hunt III, Favored Hunter III Killer III Nature's Warrior (17 AP) Nature's Warrior, Instinctive Fighting, Instinctive Fighting II Extra Wild Empathy III, Shifting Rake I Flight III, Vengeful Hunter I Fight III, Fatal Harrier III Ninja Spy (15 AP) Basic Ninja Training, Advanced Ninja Training, Shadow Veil Stealthy III, Sneak Attack Training Agility I, Sneak Attack Training Sneak Attack Training, Sting of the Ninja Harper Agent (13 AP) Agent of Good I Harper Enchantment, Traveler's Toughness II Versatile Adept III, Know the Angles III Versatile Adept II Henshin Mystic (11 AP) Riddle of Fire, Ki Bolt, Sounding Staff Negotiator II, Way of the: Patient Tortoise Fists of Iron, Contemplation II Human (1 AP) Attack Boost

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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: U25 Wolf Reply #203 - Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 5:12am	Print Post
	Sonilasfx wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 2:23am: -Feats: Scion of the Ethereal Plane > Scion of Arborea? Ethereal Plane have more dps when have skill 23 point+Enhancement+spells+item? yeah, once you hit around 100 hide and use sneak of shadows the dps gets crazy. just use eth's build. he has ap, gear, feat layout all listed and tested in game through questing. hard to pass up improved evasion, abundant step and 20% movement speed. https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/488455-Wolf-Builds-Where-are-we-at?p=6... and the new aasimar iconic seems perfect for this.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: U25 Wolf Reply #204 - Oct 23^rd, 2017 at 4:23pm	Print Post
	Wolfenstein v2.0 Race: Scourge Alignment: Neutral Class: 9 Druid/6 Ranger/5 Fighter RDDDDDDDDDRRRRRFFFFF Stats:..........Level 1 (36 pt build) Strength.............8 Dexterity...........18(+ level ups) Constitution.......18 Intelligence........10 Wisdom.............10 Charisma............8 Feat Progression: FDDDDDDDDDRRRRRRFFFD Level 1� �: Single Weapon Fighting, Weapon Finesse Level 3� �: Precision Level 6� �: Completionist Level 9� �: Improved Single Weapon Fighting Level 11 : Two Weapon Fighting(B) Level 12 : Improved Critical: Blunt Level 15 : Natural Fighting Level 15 : Improved Two Weapon Fighting (B) Level 16 : Greater Single Weapon Fighting Level 17 : Greater Two Weapon Fighting Level 18 : Natural Fighting #2 Level 19 : Dodge Level 21 : Overwhelming Critical Level 24 : Natural Fighting #3 Level 26 : Perfect Two Weapon Fighting Level 27 : Mobility Level 28 : Perfect Single Weapon Fighting Level 29 : Dire Charge Level 30 : Weapon Focus Blunt Level 30 : Scion of Ethereal (If not completionist, take WF at 6 and Weapon Specialization at 30) Epic Destiny: Legendary Dreadnought Extra AB 3/3 Legendary Tactics 3/3 Con +1 Con +1 Critical Damage 3/3 AB Haste 3/3 Con +1 Advancing Blows Devastating Crit Master's Blitz Twists: 4/3/2/1/1 Sense Weakness Balanced Attacks Hail of Blows Rejuvenation Cocoon Purge The Wicked Enhancements: Kensei: 31 AP Core 1/6 Extra AB 3/3 (6 AP) Tactics 3/3 (6 AP) Conditioning 3/3 Improved Dodge 3/3 Athletic Mastery 3/3 Dex +1 Dex +1 Opportunity Attack (2 AP) Strike at the Heart (2 AP) One with the Blade DWS: 23 pts Core 3/6 Stealthy 3/3 Increased Empathy 1/3 Action Boost Melee Power 3/3 Improved Weapon Finesse Survivalist 1 Survivalist 2 Thrill of the Hunt 3/3 Dex +1 Killer 3/3 Stalwart: 12 pts Core 2/6 Durable Defense 3/3 Defensive Mastery 3/3 Resilient Defense 2/3 Tenacious Defense 2/3 Nature's Warrior: 12 AP Cores 2/6 Extra Wild Empathy 3/3 Shifting Rake 1/3 AB Doublestrike 3/3 Vengeful Hunter 1/3 Fatal Harrier 2/3 Season's Herald: 2 AP Cores 1/6 Beguile 1/3 Racial: 12 pts Core 3/5 (Wis) Improved Recovery 2/3 (4 AP) Scourge Weapons 2/3 Divine Purpose Divine Resolve 1/3
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: U25 Wolf Reply #205 - Nov 8^th, 2017 at 1:19pm	Print Post
	The knife tree is absolute bonkers.� tested right now on a wolf and almost every thing works! Things that do not work : Blood of vengeance stacks from bleeding cuts vorpals vendetta 17 crit range ( displays 17 but never triggers a crit roll ) one with blades ( 18 crit range on winterwolf with imp crit bldg. ) Things that do work: rapid slash 20 morale dstrike single dagger gives 20 mp knife master capstone 20 mp celerity and quick reflex give 5 doublestrike each blessed blades ( the blood vengeance stack works) it is better to pick up the capstone and the tier 5s than it is to get tier 5 ninja spy for wolves. Should be better than tier 5 kensei as well. looks like we found a new tier 5 for wolves, boys
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	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Sonilasfx Korthos Resident Offline : ] Posts: 75 Location: Brazil - Jo�o Pessoa/PB Joined: Dec 28^th, 2016 Gender:	Re: U25 Wolf Reply #206 - Nov 8^th, 2017 at 2:40pm	Print Post
	holy shit how will be a new tree? D/R/F 42 vistani + 23 DWS + 6 DS + 9? D/M/R 42 vistani + 11 NS + 11 HeM + 8 shitao + 7?
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: U25 Wolf Reply #207 - Nov 8^th, 2017 at 3:47pm	Print Post
	Sonilasfx wrote on Nov 8^th, 2017 at 2:40pm: holy shit how will be a new tree? D/R/F 42 vistani + 23 DWS + 6 DS + 9? D/M/R 42 vistani + 11 NS + 11 HeM + 8 shitao + 7? 41 in gypsy knife thrower tree for every single wolf version. The dps is so close with Eth's build and a DMR, you would be better off going with Eth's version. Every time. 41 knife 21 in HeM 11 Spy 7 free to play around with. Can be 5 in dws for sneak dice. For Kensei it's looking like tier 5 kensei is more dps, but tier 5 knife is so good for survival.... for tier 5 kensei: 41 knife 33 kensei 6 defender for tier 5 knife: 41 knife 27 kensei 6 defender 6 to play with ( prolly dump into dws for sneak dice)
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	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Sonilasfx Korthos Resident Offline : ] Posts: 75 Location: Brazil - Jo�o Pessoa/PB Joined: Dec 28^th, 2016 Gender:	Re: U25 Wolf Reply #208 - Nov 8^th, 2017 at 11:33pm	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Nov 8^th, 2017 at 3:47pm: for tier 5 knife: 41 knife 27 kensei 6 defender 6 to play with ( prolly dump into dws for sneak dice) 6 AP - DW for get Improved Weapon Finesse?

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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: U25 Wolf Reply #209 - Nov 9^th, 2017 at 12:25am	Print Post
	Sonilasfx wrote on Nov 8^th, 2017 at 11:33pm: Improved Weapon Finesse? Str on ftr version seems better to me. Can get str higher than dex and synergy with animal growth, LD, primal scream, etc. Defender tree can get 20% more hps with the other ap instead. Monks get dex from ninja spy cores and have evasion, and it seems like the better option there to me because acquiring them is unavoidable and evasion just puts that sort of thing on top.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Sonilasfx Korthos Resident Offline : ] Posts: 75 Location: Brazil - Jo�o Pessoa/PB Joined: Dec 28^th, 2016 Gender:	Re: U25 Wolf Reply #210 - Nov 9^th, 2017 at 3:19am	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Nov 8^th, 2017 at 3:47pm: 41 in gypsy knife thrower tree for every single wolf version. The dps is so close with Eth's build and a DMR, you would be better off going with Eth's version. Every time. 41 knife 21 in HeM 11 Spy 7 free to play around with. Can be 5 in dws for sneak dice. For Kensei it's looking like tier 5 kensei is more dps, but tier 5 knife is so good for survival.... for tier 5 kensei: 41 knife 33 kensei 6 defender for tier 5 knife: 41 knife 27 kensei 6 defender 6 to play with ( prolly dump into dws for sneak dice) https://i.imgur.com/hBKtSSf.png how much damage does it do? 25k? 30k ?

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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: U25 Wolf Reply #211 - Nov 9^th, 2017 at 4:09am	Print Post
	Sonilasfx wrote on Nov 9^th, 2017 at 3:19am: how much damage does it do? 25k? 30k� ? All of the wolf builds do around 20k+. DMR with 3x nf and adept stance is 86+ (if including past lives) doublestrike or 96+ with knife attack kept up every 10 seconds. No need to get ninja spy tier 5 at that point because it would be trading 20 mp and 2 to all stats from capstone, + 10 enchantment bonus on weapon kept up every 10 seconds, + loss of mist stalker tier 5. The 96 doublestrike value makes ninja spy very unattractive for a 4% doublestrike boost and some sneak attack dice that doesnt win out over knife tree. this should be 20 second kills, or 25k dps. Eth's version has 12 less doublestrike (84)but manages to get grandmaster stance ki attacks into the rotation. still easily does 20k+. At least! As for the kensei versions they lose rotations and get roughly the same mp as the monks. 30 DRM. 40 for Eth. 20 for kensei. 40 for tier 5 kensei ( but that probably doesnt beat out +10 enchantment kept up every 10 seconds). doublestrike should be at 90. Also the mist stalker tier 5 makes survival so much better than another 20mp. Coupled with the extra ap that tier 5 knife tree gets over the kensei tier 5, lets the build grab 20% extra hp from defender and that beats kensei tier 5s.� �
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	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Sonilasfx Korthos Resident Offline : ] Posts: 75 Location: Brazil - Jo�o Pessoa/PB Joined: Dec 28^th, 2016 Gender:	Re: U25 Wolf Reply #212 - Nov 9^th, 2017 at 4:56am	Print Post
	i think that kensei version dont need more that 2 or 3 lvl of ranger because killer is no longer part of the build maybe 11D/6F/3R or 9D/8F/3F i prefer 11D/6F/3R xD

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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: U25 Wolf Reply #213 - Nov 9^th, 2017 at 5:01am	Print Post
	Sonilasfx wrote on Nov 9^th, 2017 at 4:56am: i prefer 11D/6F/3R xD good point. pick up frostbite and fireshield.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Sonilasfx Korthos Resident Offline : ] Posts: 75 Location: Brazil - Jo�o Pessoa/PB Joined: Dec 28^th, 2016 Gender:	Re: U25 Wolf Reply #214 - Nov 9^th, 2017 at 7:07am	Print Post
	to be honest Full plate + STR BASE = 11D/6F/3R Improved Evasion + DEX BASE = 9D/9M/2R now 9D/9M/2R Has the same purpose that Eth Bluid(12/6/2), why? my thought: Eth bluid 41AP in knife tree, 11NS. 28 AP left: 21 AP for HeM(reach core 4) and 7 for anything. you will lose +20 prr and jade from shintao tree. if u get +20prr, jade removed the 4 core HeM... soo what's the point for 12 monk? Grandmaster of Forms and OC feats? It does not make sense to want shintao(20prr+jade) when you have 12 monk. white wolf+3NF+Adept of Form+20prr+jade > wolf+Grandmaster of Forms+OC+10 meele power +3 prr :p soo i prefer 9D/9M/2R for mix wolf with monk that eth bluid(12/6/2) because it has more DPS and more survival.
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: U25 Wolf Reply #215 - Nov 9^th, 2017 at 7:53am	Print Post
	Sonilasfx wrote on Nov 9^th, 2017 at 7:07am: white wolf+3NF+Adept of Form+20prr+jade > wolf+Grandmaster of Forms+OC+10 meele power +3 prr Not by much though. at all. When you compare the dps rotation that grandmaster attacks have you see the dice are much bigger. adept is only 2d6 while grandmaster is 2d20. these are the bulk of your dps and you will be spamming 5 to 6 of them. The ki attacks proc offhand attacks, doublestrike, off hand doublestrikes. I can manage 6 ki attacks in before the first comes off cooldown. iron, g earth, g fire, g water, g air, light. Swap out any immune elements with a master strike as they do not share a cooldown with grandmaster. And Eth's wins out on survivability because better saves, abundant step, and epic reflexes feat.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Sonilasfx Korthos Resident Offline : ] Posts: 75 Location: Brazil - Jo�o Pessoa/PB Joined: Dec 28^th, 2016 Gender:	Re: U25 Wolf Reply #216 - Nov 9^th, 2017 at 8:44am	Print Post
	ahhh grandmaster attacks, I had forgotten that xD work good with macro eheeh changing the topic... when 5 Foot Step will update this bluid for U36.4 with vistani :p
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: U25 Wolf Reply #217 - Nov 9^th, 2017 at 8:18pm	Print Post
	Sonilasfx wrote on Nov 9^th, 2017 at 8:44am: ahhh grandmaster attacks, I had forgotten that xD work good with macro eheeh changing the topic... when 5 Foot Step will update this bluid for U36.4 with vistani :p Prolly gets nerfed next patch ;p as for now you can roll around with 101 doublestrike permanently. 101 in Grandmaster wind stance (0 NF) 3 aasimar lives 9 epic lives 12 grandmaster wind stance 5 scourge racial ap This is something every wolf can attain. Provided they exchanged some feats for NF or twisting in Hail of Blows to make up for no stances on kensei versions. yw.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Sonilasfx Korthos Resident Offline : ] Posts: 75 Location: Brazil - Jo�o Pessoa/PB Joined: Dec 28^th, 2016 Gender:	Re: U25 Wolf Reply #218 - Nov 10^th, 2017 at 3:50am	Print Post
	i dont think that nerf come in next patch because they want $$$ from scourge and vistani, maybe nerf will come in March when accessible by tubirne points btw, dex for hit/damage dont work with wolf ? o.O it is new for me
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: U25 Wolf Reply #219 - Nov 10^th, 2017 at 5:03am	Print Post
	Sonilasfx wrote on Nov 10^th, 2017 at 3:50am: btw, dex for hit/damage dont work with wolf ? o.O it is new for me makes sense, cos wolves don't ever make sense lol. anyway, yeah, agree that ssg will sell it for few months then nerf it after people buy it. Doesn't matter for now. The knife tree is fundamentally broken because these dstrike values are not really inherent to a particular build or class. That means any build with gear and past lives can also reach 100 strike with 100% uptime.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: U25 Wolf Reply #220 - Nov 10^th, 2017 at 11:23am	Print Post
	Sonilasfx wrote on Nov 9^th, 2017 at 8:44am: :p What's a bluid?

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Sonilasfx Korthos Resident Offline : ] Posts: 75 Location: Brazil - Jo�o Pessoa/PB Joined: Dec 28^th, 2016 Gender:	Re: U25 Wolf Reply #221 - Nov 10^th, 2017 at 2:26pm	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Nov 10^th, 2017 at 11:23am: What's a bluid?� your bluid xD update for 36.4 :p u using feats(PSWF and weapown finese) and base of score(dex) that dont work in wolf :/

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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: U25 Wolf Reply #222 - Nov 11^th, 2017 at 11:09am	Print Post
	It used to be that no alternate stats to damage would function for wolf, before the monk pass. I remember specifically testing dex to damage in NS and it working. I don't remember if I specifically tested Improved Weapon Finesse.

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Sonilasfx Korthos Resident Offline : ] Posts: 75 Location: Brazil - Jo�o Pessoa/PB Joined: Dec 28^th, 2016 Gender:	Re: U25 Wolf Reply #223 - Nov 12^th, 2017 at 2:27am	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Nov 11^th, 2017 at 11:09am: It used to be that no alternate stats to damage would function for wolf, before the monk pass. I remember specifically testing dex to damage in NS and it working. I don't remember if I specifically tested Improved Weapon Finesse. today, i tested dex for hit/damage with NS, Weapown Finesse feat and Improved Weapon Finesse. dont work :/ the dice and combat chat does not show the bonus that have in "inventory > details". i used kama, shortsword, Handwraps... Nothing works in the wolf form( i dont test bear ;p)

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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: U25 Wolf Reply #224 - Nov 12^th, 2017 at 11:49am	Print Post
	Hmm. Maybe it was tempest that I used. Though they've "fixed" that tree since then, haven't they?

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