Ive been playing around with the mechanic build, and just about to hit 20, Ive had a steady mix of repeaters and G xbows to play  with so far.

I have pretty much all the named decent xbows except slinger (wont drop), and GS (haven decided if its worth making again).

Ive been running full out mechanic tree with harper support and heavy Int with almost as much Dex in light armor mostly.

I hot bar various bolts and xbows, but it seems like even with the trio of deception items (deception bow, guile,backstabbers) that in any situation, the repeaters lay waste to everything much quicker than any given G xbow.

In fact, even with doublecross, and all the names Xbows, a heavy repeater with wounding and puncturing plus any given ruby (without deception on it itself) does far more sustained and burst dps then my best G xbow in all situations.

When does it become better:  In a specific destiny tree?  With only TF G xbow?  Only in vary precise conditions?

I see the very large base damage on my sheet when I equip these, sometimes x5 of what I see on a repeater at the same level, but it just doesnt seem to matter.

Im really confused as this was not what I was expecting at all - I mean that I like the playstyle and the build in general, but the Great Xbow part I just dont get.

Hrrrmmm

I've been rocking a GxB with holy and pure good (ml 6) since I could grab improved critical, before that I ran with a Keen for crit goodness.  Ranged alacrity in a trinket.

Level by level GxB gives me much better chances for a one shot kill, and the bleed is handy in heroic. the crit range with base 2D8 is just too good. Occasionally I would swith back and forth but once I hit level 12 I never switch back, never. I only started to use a different GxB in the past level because I picked up a drainer and I laugh when I see them fall down and lose a level.

Since lev 12 the front end damage on the GxB is superior to the repeater for me, especially with the tasty sneak dice.

If your mixed class,6 levels of ranger are handy for sniper-shot, it's crushing in heroic and gives you much better sneak-attacks than the decep items in that it's on demand. The tier I bard ranged shot (blow by blow) is handy for the +3 threat range and threat shedding. Of course leg shot is good as well. The only real problems with them is the damn cool downs, Blow is 12 seconds, leg is 10 seconds, sniper shot is better but still 6 seconds.

What I have found is the ranger levels or even (can't believe I'm admitting this) elf for AA on a pure mech is good. Because they allow you to grab the AA ranged strikes, Dispelling shot +[3], inferno shot +2[w], and Shattermantle shot +3[w], all with 3 second cool downs. Granted they are fucking expensive at 2pts a rank, but with a GxB +3[w] extra is amazing bang for buck with those crazy fast cool downs. I use it mostly for the front-end damage, the additional effects are okay if they happen to proc but really I'm just interested in the +[w] aspects.  The other available ranged attacks such as Head-shot, Aimed-shot, Merciful-shot are all handy but the cool-downs are much longer.

Keep in mind that once you're sitting at Mech Tier V you get a additional +2[w] on none repeaters, so by cycling thru Sniper, Dispelling, Shattermantle, Leg, inferno, you are getting 10XD8, and 8XD8 every shot. 

All this gets tossed as soon as I hit epic, and I reset everything to optimize adrenaline and adrenaline recharging.

I think you're talking about epic while HR is talking about heroic.

Fail wrote on May 19^th, 2015 at 12:40pm:



Sounds like you're happy with the repeater mate, so it's not really a issue. Glad you found something to your taste, Enjoy.

I have two capped pure mechs (human & Blade), 1 capped mixmech, 1 lv26 pally/mech, and I am at 18 with a Mech/rang/bard. During play I found the GxB to be most effective, but that's just me. It's good to see repeater players are feeling satisfied as well.

Also for future ref don't forget that non-repeaters get 8 more sneak-die than repeaters, thrown, bows, +7 more damage. For some reason the wiki hasn't caught up yet.

Can't believe I got sucked in again, only just remembered your name now. Well played sir.

Done here.

Sure thing, hopefully I will not forget your name again and I can successfully avoid another one of your "gosh! could you tell me" time-sink threads.

Hat's off to some fine trolling.

Max SA for mechanic in EE mod since death knights have 100 Prr.

Pure mechanic. Repeater.

WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on May 22^nd, 2015 at 1:39pm:


nope.

Hag Master wrote on May 22^nd, 2015 at 11:11pm:


what is the rate of fire on a great crossbow?
I get 27 volleys per 30s on a repeater.
Thats 3.78 hits per second. I highly doubt you're getting that with your craptastic fury build.

WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on May 22^nd, 2015 at 1:39pm:


Max SA? really? Max huh? guessing your using wiki as opposed to the real enhancements sunshine, god this makes me laugh.


MAX SA Sounds like a lame 80's action film.

You clueless fucker, max sa, except for the other 8 sa dice you don't get using a repeater, but hey those extra 8 sa dice you forgot about is only twice as many as you could squeeze out of your little repeater... 4 sa,  Meaning the GxB's 12 SA is just something you didn't know or want to admit.

DiddleDoo wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 8:34am:


*Rogue. DIAF.

Hag Master wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 2:39am:


I asked for actual rate of fire numbers. You're not interested in objective comparison?

Getting half as many hits per second is not worth the benefits of a GC.

Shit talking aside. I haven't run into a great GC user that has outdone a repeater on G-land. And Fury as a destiny?...
...

Screenshot of you soloing if ya don't mind.

Also hagfag.

WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on May 24^th, 2015 at 8:18am:



I am hard pressed to decide what makes you more ignorant, thinking this, or being so fucking clueless that you would publicly post on the Vault something that displays just how uninformed you are. I mean seriously? are you that thick that you can come to this conclusion?

Thank the gods they kicked you off the PC, I can only imagine the damage you would have done if this is a fair example of your level of ignorance, I mean really? you stupid stupid fucker.