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Jun 2nd, 2015 at 5:48pm
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Currently I have a gear setup composed of:

Epic Boots of the Innocent (Good Luck +2, Draconic Soul Gem)
EE Consuming Darkness (Dex +8)
Epic Bracers of the Claw
Shadowscale Outfit, Shadow Disciple (Golem's Heart)
EE Shadowsight (Insightful +2 Str)
Dragon Masque (Globe of True Imperial Blood, Fear Immunity)
Necklace of Mystic Eidolons (Power +250)
Planar Focus of Subterfuge +3 Wis
Adamantine Cloak of the Wolf
Epic Belt of Thoughtful Rememberance (14 PRR(upgrade to 16), Sonic Resist +35(upgrade to 40))
Ogre Power +10 Ring of False Life +50
Epic Gloves of the Claw
EE Poison Quiver
Thunderforged Bows for many situations (138 Devotion, 20 Vitality)

Anything to improve? The Claw Set seems meh but dont think i missed anything other than a blind immune augment which i cant slot.
  
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Re: Monkcher Gear setup
Reply #1 - Jun 2nd, 2015 at 10:06pm
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randomusername44 wrote on Jun 2nd, 2015 at 5:48pm:
Currently I have a gear setup composed of:

Epic Boots of the Innocent (Good Luck +2, Draconic Soul Gem)
EE Consuming Darkness (Dex +8)
Epic Bracers of the Claw
Shadowscale Outfit, Shadow Disciple (Golem's Heart)
EE Shadowsight (Insightful +2 Str)
Dragon Masque (Globe of True Imperial Blood, Fear Immunity)
Necklace of Mystic Eidolons (Power +250)
Planar Focus of Subterfuge +3 Wis
Adamantine Cloak of the Wolf
Epic Belt of Thoughtful Rememberance (14 PRR(upgrade to 16), Sonic Resist +35(upgrade to 40))
Ogre Power +10 Ring of False Life +50
Epic Gloves of the Claw
EE Poison Quiver
Thunderforged Bows for many situations (138 Devotion, 20 Vitality)

Anything to improve? The Claw Set seems meh but dont think i missed anything other than a blind immune augment which i cant slot.


Swap shadowsight for Epic Glimpse. (for True Seeing)
Swap Planar Focus for Epic Litany (w/ insight wis +2 slotted)
Dragon Masque for Mythic Emerald Gaze.
Claw set for Epic Ethereal and Iron Mitts
Mystic Eidolons for Gilvaenor's
Lootgen ring for Gilvaenor's (W/ hamp)
  

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Reply #2 - Jun 2nd, 2015 at 11:35pm
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Wow, i dont think you missed anything other than accuracy 10 which is totally a worthwile trade for all that Cheesy
guess im running MoD on this character thou, how boring
  
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Reply #3 - Jun 2nd, 2015 at 11:35pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Jun 2nd, 2015 at 10:06pm:
Swap shadowsight for Epic Glimpse. (for True Seeing)
Swap Planar Focus for Epic Litany (w/ insight wis +2 slotted)
Dragon Masque for Mythic Emerald Gaze.
Claw set for Epic Ethereal and Iron Mitts
Mystic Eidolons for Gilvaenor's
Lootgen ring for Gilvaenor's (W/ hamp)


ToD raid making a comeback I see? Smiley

Also, you didn't ask what kind of monkcher he was.
He might be the classic 12mnk/6rng/2pal(fvs)
or a frigging 14pal/6mnk Helf.
Does the gear stay the same?
  

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Reply #4 - Jun 2nd, 2015 at 11:52pm
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Alex DeLarge wrote on Jun 2nd, 2015 at 11:35pm:
ToD raid making a comeback I see? Smiley

Also, you didn't ask what kind of monkcher he was.
He might be the classic 12mnk/6rng/2pal(fvs)
or a frigging 14pal/6mnk Helf.
Does the gear stay the same?

I'm a 12 Ranger/6 Monk/2 Druid Monkcher (odd build i know) and gear tends to stay mostly the same
  
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Reply #5 - Jun 2nd, 2015 at 11:52pm
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Alex DeLarge wrote on Jun 2nd, 2015 at 11:35pm:
ToD raid making a comeback I see? Smiley


I did it 4-man a few weeks ago. No big deal.


Alex DeLarge wrote on Jun 2nd, 2015 at 11:35pm:
Also, you didn't ask what kind of monkcher he was.
He might be the classic 12mnk/6rng/2pal(fvs)
or a frigging 14pal/6mnk Helf.
Does the gear stay the same?


It doesn't matter.
  

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Reply #6 - Jun 2nd, 2015 at 11:58pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Jun 2nd, 2015 at 11:52pm:
I did it 4-man a few weeks ago. No big deal.


Oh, right. I forgot how easy it is now due to the creep.
Do you think Gilvaenor's set worth farming for a Rogue Mech w/ Gxbow (or Repeater)?

5 Foot Step wrote on Jun 2nd, 2015 at 11:52pm:
It doesn't matter.


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Reply #7 - Jun 3rd, 2015 at 12:22am
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Alex DeLarge wrote on Jun 2nd, 2015 at 11:58pm:
Oh, right. I forgot how easy it is now due to the creep.
Do you think Gilvaenor's set worth farming for a Rogue Mech w/ Gxbow (or Repeater)?


Well, it's admittedly a lot more attractive if you're already got it laying around.

If I couldn't be bothered to farm ToD on a monkcher, I'd swap Iron Mitts for Sanctified Gages and replace Gilv's Neck with Shroud of Ardent  and use the ring as a swap slot.

But that's (most likely) 40 extra MoDs, so pick your poison.

But on a mech you need Deception/Imp. Deception so you're gonna be looking at stuff like Golden Guile, Dragon Masque, HE/EE Backstabber.
  

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Reply #8 - Jun 3rd, 2015 at 12:24am
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This is what I laid out for my mech:

http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1428810580/11#11

TF T3 GXbow
Knives Eternal
ToEE Armor
Dragon Masque
Shroud of Ardent
E Litany/Manual
Remnant Cloak
E Thoughtful Remembrance Belt
Avithoul Ring/ E Eye of the Beholder Ring
E Alacrity Quiver
Sanctified Gages
E Innocent Boots
E Ethereal Bracers
E Mentau Goggles
  

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Reply #9 - Jun 3rd, 2015 at 1:03am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Jun 3rd, 2015 at 12:24am:
This is what I laid out for my mech:

http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1428810580/11#11

TF T3 GXbow
Knives Eternal
ToEE Armor
Dragon Masque
Shroud of Ardent
E Litany/Manual
Remnant Cloak
E Thoughtful Remembrance Belt
Avithoul Ring/ E Eye of the Beholder Ring
E Alacrity Quiver
Sanctified Gages
E Innocent Boots
E Ethereal Bracers
E Mentau Goggles


Helps a bit but my build is a Wis/Str for dps while yours relies on int Sad thanks for help thou
  
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Reply #10 - Jun 3rd, 2015 at 1:12am
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randomusername44 wrote on Jun 3rd, 2015 at 1:03am:
Helps a bit but my build is a Wis/Str for dps while yours relies on int Sad thanks for help thou


That mech gear post was for Alex.
  

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Reply #11 - Jun 3rd, 2015 at 1:29am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Jun 3rd, 2015 at 12:24am:
This is what I laid out for my mech:

http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1428810580/11#11

TF T3 GXbow
Knives Eternal
ToEE Armor
Dragon Masque
Shroud of Ardent
E Litany/Manual
Remnant Cloak
E Thoughtful Remembrance Belt
Avithoul Ring/ E Eye of the Beholder Ring
E Alacrity Quiver
Sanctified Gages
E Innocent Boots
E Ethereal Bracers
E Mentau Goggles


Tnx, 5 foot.
Had your build copy+pasted in my Bio before I tr'd.
However, I've been contemplating the need for /2 artie splash lately.
Thinking that maybe I should have stayed pure for the capstone.
Only time will tell.

5 Foot Step wrote on Jun 3rd, 2015 at 12:22am:
But that's (most likely) 40 extra MoDs, so pick your poison.

But on a mech you need Deception/Imp. Deception so you're gonna be looking at stuff like Golden Guile, Dragon Masque, HE/EE Backstabber.


There's probably a lot more than 40 MoDs waiting to be farmed Grin
  

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5 Foot Step wrote on Jun 2nd, 2015 at 10:06pm:
Swap shadowsight for Epic Glimpse. (for True Seeing)
Swap Planar Focus for Epic Litany (w/ insight wis +2 slotted)
Dragon Masque for Mythic Emerald Gaze.
Claw set for Epic Ethereal and Iron Mitts
Mystic Eidolons for Gilvaenor's
Lootgen ring for Gilvaenor's (W/ hamp)


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Reply #13 - Jun 3rd, 2015 at 9:46am
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14/6 pally/monk dex based.
Innocent boots/orcish privateer
2 wis avithoul
epic ethereal
shadowdragon robe
epic glimpse
Deific Diadem
Shroud of ardent
epic litany
Addy wolf cloak
epic Thoughtful rememberance
consuming darkness
Iron Mitts
epic Poison quiver

2 dex, 2 con, 2 charisma,2 int, protection and natural 8, false life, good luck, power 250 ,fear immunity there somewhere.
Guess I could go with wisdom Optics if not for the idiotic seizure inducing quell graphics.
  
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Wipe wrote on Jun 3rd, 2015 at 9:46am:
fear immunity

3rd level of paladin.
  

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Reply #15 - Jun 3rd, 2015 at 10:09pm
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12 mnk 6 ftr 2 rgr (elf dex based)

E Minos (Natural Armor +8,Concentration +15)
E Glimpse (Golems Heart)
Eidolons (Dragonic Soul)
E Litany
Adamantine Cloak of Wolf
Gs Health Belt
Signet of the Shining Sun (  Roll Eyes )
Ward Token (ff,True Imperial Blood)
Iron Mits (cons +8)
Epic Boots of the innocent
E Ethereal Bracers (Defense +16, Power 250)
Shadowscale Robe (Heart)
  
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Reply #16 - Jun 4th, 2015 at 2:18am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Jun 2nd, 2015 at 10:06pm:
Swap shadowsight for Epic Glimpse. (for True Seeing)
Swap Planar Focus for Epic Litany (w/ insight wis +2 slotted)
Dragon Masque for Mythic Emerald Gaze.
Claw set for Epic Ethereal and Iron Mitts
Mystic Eidolons for Gilvaenor's
Lootgen ring for Gilvaenor's (W/ hamp)


Dragon Masque was his deadly 11 item. You'll want to keep it or use the Sanctified Gages from MoD.
Not a big fan of Gilvanors set, I don't recall the numbers in actual play but unless you keep shooting for a long while (without stopping to buff or heal - unrealistic) you don't get any benefit.

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Reply #17 - Jun 4th, 2015 at 5:15am
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Rubbinns wrote on Jun 3rd, 2015 at 1:29pm:
3rd level of paladin.

Hehe I know, nice to see someone is actually reading here.
I left it there ( and here by purpose ) because I still pass crap like Necro gear or Mitts and such between toons, depending on who's in etr wheel.
  
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Reply #18 - Jun 4th, 2015 at 5:23am
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Rubbinns wrote on Jun 3rd, 2015 at 1:29pm:
3rd level of paladin.


Last time I had Paladin's fear immunity it was kinda bugged and providing full immunity like the augment or GH scroll/spell does.
It could have been fixed by now, but who knows.
  

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Reply #19 - Jun 5th, 2015 at 10:07pm
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SayWhatAgain wrote on Jun 4th, 2015 at 2:18am:
Dragon Masque was his deadly 11 item. You'll want to keep it or use the Sanctified Gages from MoD.
Not a big fan of Gilvanors set, I don't recall the numbers in actual play but unless you keep shooting for a long while (without stopping to buff or heal - unrealistic) you don't get any benefit.



E. Ethereal has Deadly X. Good enough IMO.

No idea what you're on about for Gilv.
  

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5 Foot Step wrote on Jun 5th, 2015 at 10:07pm:
E. Ethereal has Deadly X. Good enough IMO.

No idea what you're on about for Gilv.


True, the loss of 1 deadly isn't that bad.
Regarding Gilvanors, if you're shooting bursts time (between buffs/heals) typically varies between 5 and 30 seconds and during that period of time the extra shooting speed given by Gilvanors does not translate into an additional shot fired compared to the number of shots you would have fired without Gilvanors then you have gained nothing.
  
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Reply #21 - Jun 7th, 2015 at 4:25am
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SayWhatAgain wrote on Jun 7th, 2015 at 3:06am:
True, the loss of 1 deadly isn't that bad.
Regarding Gilvanors, if you're shooting bursts time (between buffs/heals) typically varies between 5 and 30 seconds and during that period of time the extra shooting speed given by Gilvanors does not translate into an additional shot fired compared to the number of shots you would have fired without Gilvanors then you have gained nothing.


Gameplay does not round to the nearest whole second. Even if it did, it would only take ~10 seconds for Gilvaenor's to produce an extra shot.
  

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Reply #22 - Jun 8th, 2015 at 11:29am
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Meh, best monkcher is 14 Paladin/6 Monk or 8 Fighter/6 Ranger/6 Monk anyway.

Enough with these 12/6/2's.
  
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Reply #23 - Jun 11th, 2015 at 3:19am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Jun 7th, 2015 at 4:25am:
Gameplay does not round to the nearest whole second. Even if it did, it would only take ~10 seconds for Gilvaenor's to produce an extra shot.


Did some testing on a palcher in DC (for max BAB) and epic boots of the innocent.
Counted number of firing animations with and with out Gilvanors. 15 seconds of constant fire seems to be the border for which Gilvanors does not produce an extra shot (I believe 19 shots fired in 15 seconds iirc).

So up to 15 seconds you gain nothing, past that you get an extra shot. Keeping in mind that an increase in shots fired for ranged toons in fury is not the same increase in dps since the bulk of the dps comes from the adren shots (even though another shot fired is another chance to get adren back) I believe it is safe to say Gilvanors contributes nothing or very very little at best and so would definitely not recommend placing it in a gear setup.
  
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Reply #24 - Jun 11th, 2015 at 6:55am
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SayWhatAgain wrote on Jun 11th, 2015 at 3:19am:
Did some testing on a palcher in DC (for max BAB) and epic boots of the innocent.
Counted number of firing animations with and with out Gilvanors. 15 seconds of constant fire seems to be the border for which Gilvanors does not produce an extra shot (I believe 19 shots fired in 15 seconds iirc).

So up to 15 seconds you gain nothing, past that you get an extra shot. Keeping in mind that an increase in shots fired for ranged toons in fury is not the same increase in dps since the bulk of the dps comes from the adren shots (even though another shot fired is another chance to get adren back) I believe it is safe to say Gilvanors contributes nothing or very very little at best and so would definitely not recommend placing it in a gear setup.




Firstly, if you wanted to optimize a ranged build, you wouldn't be dicking around with a longbow.

But your testing is still flawed.

.05 seconds is .05 seconds regardless of how many shots you fire.
  

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