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Yobai Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4126 Joined: Jul 26^th, 2012	Re: U28 loot Reply #25 - Sep 17^th, 2015 at 7:37pm	Print Post
	Artorias wrote on Sep 17^th, 2015 at 7:11pm: This is the first update that I'm completely uninterested when it comes to loot. Can't find a single item (not even the quiver) that I'd want. Honestly I'll just get the favor = free tp and be on my way for next TR. Nothing else left to do same. call me next update.

	Revaulting wrote on Jul 7^th, 2015 at 8:16pm: Have you tried a lower difficulty, such as the official forums?
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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: U28 loot Reply #26 - Sep 18^th, 2015 at 10:13am	Print Post
	Yobai wrote on Sep 17^th, 2015 at 7:36pm: watching that sludge slosh around inside your head as you slooooooooooooooooooooooooooooowwwwly come to the same conclusion everyone else did instantly when they saw the loot is like watching paint dry.� slow stupid paint. Aw look. I have an internet stalker. This is the third or fourth thread you have followed me to so you can post an insult. Your butthurt his showing. But that's OK, I love to see a little internet forum desperation with my morning coffee.


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CosmicCharlie Shroud Slacker Offline How do you do? Posts: 1155 Joined: Mar 3^rd, 2012	Re: U28 loot Reply #27 - Sep 18^th, 2015 at 12:02pm	Print Post
	looks like the kind of shit they'd include with starting gear for epic iconics. Epic Iconic Gnome, lets just say, cuz y not.


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crunch Stormreaver Piker Offline Posts: 745 Location: Europe Joined: Mar 20^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: U28 loot Reply #28 - Sep 18^th, 2015 at 12:30pm	Print Post
	Artorias wrote on Sep 17^th, 2015 at 7:11pm: Can't find a single item (not even the quiver) 5% free doublestrike at lvl 14 is not bad.


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DDO PC Transparency Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 12 Joined: May 18^th, 2015	Re: U28 loot Reply #29 - Sep 18^th, 2015 at 8:59pm	Print Post
	ThatLukeGuy wrote on Sep 17^th, 2015 at 3:18pm: I can only think they were making the Locked & Loaded wraps for a Cleric/Monk multiclass. Actually, it's worse than that. They specifically had Warlocks in mind when designing those... And no, not even Warlock/Monks, just Warlocks. Official statement was something along the lines of "We don't think (<- could've just stopped there) Handwraps should be just for Monks."


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Metal-Beast Abbot Raider Offline \m/ Posts: 767 Joined: Apr 13^th, 2014	Re: U28 loot Reply #30 - Sep 18^th, 2015 at 10:17pm	Print Post
	DDO PC Transparency wrote on Sep 18^th, 2015 at 8:59pm: Actually, it's worse than that. They specifically had Warlocks in mind when designing those... And no, not even Warlock/Monks, just Warlocks. Official statement was something along the lines of "We don't think (<- could've just stopped there) Handwraps should be just for Monks." I think everyone is perhaps approaching Locked and Loaded the wrong way: Most people are looking and saying "These are hand wraps with caster effects." When perhaps they should be saying: "These are staff effects on hand wraps." A subtle but important difference in framing. Consider this: A quarterstaff, even recycled from old art, requires an item graphic. Hand wraps have NO graphic display AT ALL. And a recycled icon. It's Turbine. Ponder.�

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WeHaveLived Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 945 Joined: Apr 24^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: U28 loot Reply #31 - Sep 19^th, 2015 at 1:49am	Print Post
	Damn, that actually makes sense.


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DDO PC Transparency Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 12 Joined: May 18^th, 2015	Re: U28 loot Reply #32 - Sep 19^th, 2015 at 3:14am	Print Post
	Metal-Beast wrote on Sep 18^th, 2015 at 10:17pm: I think everyone is perhaps approaching Locked and Loaded the wrong way: Most people are looking and saying "These are hand wraps with caster effects." When perhaps they should be saying: "These are staff effects on hand wraps." A subtle but important difference in framing. Consider this: A quarterstaff, even recycled from old art, requires an item graphic. Hand wraps have NO graphic display AT ALL. And a recycled icon. It's Turbine. Ponder.� I guess that makes sense... In a Turdbrain sort of way... "When wasting time designing an item nobody will use, don't waste more time on the art for it."


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kum-gulp VoD Slasher Offline I Love Tired Vault Memes! Posts: 1812 Joined: Jul 16^th, 2010	Re: U28 loot Reply #33 - Sep 19^th, 2015 at 9:14am	Print Post
	I hereby file all this loot under If It's Easy To Get My Mules Might Get One That Day I Bother Capping Any Of Them.


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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: U28 loot Reply #34 - Sep 19^th, 2015 at 10:43am	Print Post
	Metal-Beast wrote on Sep 18^th, 2015 at 10:17pm: I think everyone is perhaps approaching Locked and Loaded the wrong way: Most people are looking and saying "These are hand wraps with caster effects." When perhaps they should be saying: "These are staff effects on hand wraps." A subtle but important difference in framing. Consider this: A quarterstaff, even recycled from old art, requires an item graphic. Hand wraps have NO graphic display AT ALL. And a recycled icon. It's Turbine. Ponder.� yeah, if you are chain or blast casting, your weapon doesn't show anyways. And of you are aura-locking, you carry a shield, so...no handwraps. It doesn't make any sense. Interesting, as well, that on a warlock item they ignored the GOO's acid pact damage but did include Fire and Sonic.


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string table error, tableDID Stormreaver Piker Offline ah......fresh meat Posts: 743 Location: Boredville Joined: Dec 9^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: U28 loot Reply #35 - Sep 20^th, 2015 at 11:09am	Print Post
	There is some loot I may use when I would find it by chance and some quests I may run for alternation. If the update won't bug out anything important I am fine with it. The trick is not to expect anything and be glad about everything that is more than just maintenance.

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WeHaveLived Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 945 Joined: Apr 24^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: U28 loot Reply #36 - Sep 20^th, 2015 at 3:46pm	Print Post
	string table error, tableDID wrote on Sep 20^th, 2015 at 11:09am: won't bug out anything important Or bugs out something important


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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: U28 loot Reply #37 - Sep 20^th, 2015 at 11:46pm	Print Post
	Would somebody copy-paste the details already?

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crunch Stormreaver Piker Offline Posts: 745 Location: Europe Joined: Mar 20^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: U28 loot Reply #38 - Sep 21^st, 2015 at 1:36am	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Sep 20^th, 2015 at 11:46pm: Would somebody copy-paste the details already? what details? this? http://ddowiki.com/page/Update_28_named_items


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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: U28 loot Reply #39 - Sep 21^st, 2015 at 3:33am	Print Post
	crunch wrote on Sep 21^st, 2015 at 1:36am: what details? this? http://ddowiki.com/page/Update_28_named_items Not helpful.

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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: U28 loot Reply #40 - Sep 21^st, 2015 at 10:21am	Print Post
	For those with no forum access: Epic Captain's Set - +2 Quality Strength when both equipped Bracers - +4 Insight Strength, +10 Attack Bonus, Greater Heroism, Blue, Green. Boots - +4 Insight Dex, Riposte X , Balance +20, Yellow, Green. Epic Griffon's Set - +2 Quality Constitution when both equipped Trinket - Spot +20, Search +20, Seeker +14, Colorless, Green Neck - +4 Insight Con, +20 Insight False Life, +5 Insight Natural Armor, +3 Insight Fort Save, Green. Epic Double Helix Set - +4 Insight Sheltering when both equipped Ring - Shelter +24, Fort 120%, Protection +10, Green. Ring - Enchant Save +6, Illusion Save +6, Insight Spell Save +6, Green Epic Slice and Dice Set - +2 Quality Seeker, +2 Quality Sneak attack when both equipped Dagger - +12 Enhancement, 5.50[1d4] (BDR 28.05), Greater Maiming, Armor Piercing 20%, Insight Sneak Attack +6, Sov Vorpal, Purple Dagger - +12 Enhancement, 5[1d4] (BDR 26.95), Greater Bleeding, Heartseeker VI, Insight Seeker +6, Improved Destruction, Purple Devil's Handiwork Set: When 6 of 8 above items equipped, +1 Quality bonus to all stats. Non-set items Tower Shield - +24 AC, 20 DR, Cold Resist 50, Armor Piercing 20%, Vitality 40, Impact V, Purple Wraps- +12 Enhancement, Spell Implement +36, Fire Lore 18%, Kinetic Lore 18%, Sonic Lore 18%, Insight Potency +10, Orange Docent - +12 Enh, Insight Int +4, Quality Armor Bonus +4, Quality Wizardry +65 spell points, +10 Insight Potency, Green. Quiver - 8% Doubleshot, Ranged Power +4. Repeating Heavy XBow - 6.5[1d10] (BRD 57.00), Keen III, Armor Piercing 20%, Sov Vorpal, Shrieking V, Orange. Orb - +12 Enh, Wizardry +275 spell points, Insight Spell Pen +2, Quality Spell Focus +2, Orange Throwing Dagger - 5[1d4] (BDR 26.95) Solar VI, Greater Bleeding, Improved Paralyzing, Orange. Robe - +12 Enh, Insight Charisma +4, Insight Potency +10, Quality Wizardry +65 points, Quality Armor +4, Green.


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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: U28 loot Reply #41 - Sep 21^st, 2015 at 11:39am	Print Post
	You know, those daggers don't actually suck, now that I look at them.� Sure, they aren't TF with Tier 3, but then they shouldn't be on that level anyways.� If they made me reconsider a TF weapon, they'd be too OP.� They look better than any non-TF dagger out there.� Better than any (non-raid loot) short sword, too, from a damage basis.� Probably worth having for who are still working on getting their phlogs together.� Two TF tier 3 items is 60 runs of dragon raids.� I won't get them because I don't play a character that uses daggers (or even short swords).� But I can see where they might fit.� (Yes, I know daggers are weak as weapons in general, but I don't want them to just make handwraps, rapiers, scimitars, khopeshes, falchions, long bows and great cross bows) Same goes for the throwing dagger.� Given that there are only 4 named throwing daggers in the game(the highest level of which is 20), it is decent, until you can craft a TF dagger to replace it.� The Repeating Heavy xbow fits in this category too.� Better than anything but TF out there for repeating heavy xbows.� � The real problems I see are that the bracers are complete shit and make that set unwearable.� The trinket is god-awful and makes that set unwearable.� The saves ring is a total joke that I wouldn't wear at level 8, let alone 28, and makes that set unwearable.� The fact that 3 of the items are complete crap makes the 6 item set also unatainable and useless. The other ring, boots, and neck are weak, but not without some merit in some builds where you don't have a ton of MoD and DoJ raid loot. The quiver fits if you aren't going to run at least 60 MoD's per toon.� (Because it isn't dropping and you aren't taking it over Litany and another item on most any toon).� The wraps seem like a bad idea.� The tower shield sucks.� We've gotten a lot of better ones lately, by far.� The Orb is probably focused on helping the DC casting issues in Amrath.� It is basically the DC casting version of the libram (which is all nuke-casting related).� And I'm not liking the docent or the robes.� I guess it is another source of the Insight Potency (which is cool), but I really can't see them working right now.�
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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: U28 loot Reply #42 - Sep 21^st, 2015 at 6:58pm	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Sep 21^st, 2015 at 11:39am: The Repeating Heavy xbow fits in this category too.� Better than anything but TF out there for repeating heavy xbows.� � I was on Lamma and the repeater didn't hit anything. It used ammo and ran through the firing animation though. Other repeaters worked fine. Hilarious.

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Meursault Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Freedom of Speech Posts: 2410 Location: Hartford, CT; USA Joined: Aug 22^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: U28 loot Reply #43 - Sep 21^st, 2015 at 7:41pm	Print Post
	Revaulting wrote on Sep 21^st, 2015 at 6:58pm: I was on Lamma and the repeater didn't hit anything. It used ammo and ran through the firing animation though. Other repeaters worked fine. Hilarious. I guess that means Ranger will beat Artificer in their tests, too.

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Artorias Shroud Slacker Offline Posts: 1223 Joined: Mar 21^st, 2015	Re: U28 loot Reply #44 - Sep 21^st, 2015 at 8:41pm	Print Post
	Meursault wrote on Sep 21^st, 2015 at 7:41pm: I guess that means Ranger will beat Artificer in their tests, too. Epic lol


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WeHaveLived Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 945 Joined: Apr 24^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: U28 loot Reply #45 - Sep 21^st, 2015 at 11:59pm	Print Post
	Meursault wrote on Sep 21^st, 2015 at 7:41pm: I guess that means Ranger will beat Artificer in their tests, too. Toppie.


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DropBear Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Don't forget to look up.... Posts: 4380 Location: Landdownunder Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013	Re: U28 loot Reply #46 - Sep 22^nd, 2015 at 12:24am	Print Post
	Meursault wrote on Sep 21^st, 2015 at 7:41pm: I guess that means Ranger will beat Artificer in their tests, too. Lovin your work M.

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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: U28 loot Reply #47 - Sep 22^nd, 2015 at 1:22am	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Sep 21^st, 2015 at 10:21am: For those with no forum access: Epic Captain's Set - +2 Quality Strength when both equipped Bracers - +4 Insight Strength, +10 Attack Bonus, Greater Heroism, Blue, Green. Boots - +4 Insight Dex, Riposte X , Balance +20, Yellow, Green. Epic Griffon's Set - +2 Quality Constitution when both equipped Trinket - Spot +20, Search +20, Seeker +14, Colorless, Green Neck - +4 Insight Con, +20 Insight False Life, +5 Insight Natural Armor, +3 Insight Fort Save, Green. Epic Double Helix Set - +4 Insight Sheltering when both equipped Ring - Shelter +24, Fort 120%, Protection +10, Green. Ring - Enchant Save +6, Illusion Save +6, Insight Spell Save +6, Green Epic Slice and Dice Set - +2 Quality Seeker, +2 Quality Sneak attack when both equipped Dagger - +12 Enhancement, 5.50[1d4] (BDR 28.05), Greater Maiming, Armor Piercing 20%, Insight Sneak Attack +6, Sov Vorpal, Purple Dagger - +12 Enhancement, 5[1d4] (BDR 26.95), Greater Bleeding, Heartseeker VI, Insight Seeker +6, Improved Destruction, Purple Devil's Handiwork Set: When 6 of 8 above items equipped, +1 Quality bonus to all stats. Non-set items Tower Shield - +24 AC, 20 DR, Cold Resist 50, Armor Piercing 20%, Vitality 40, Impact V, Purple Wraps- +12 Enhancement, Spell Implement +36, Fire Lore 18%, Kinetic Lore 18%, Sonic Lore 18%, Insight Potency +10, Orange Docent - +12 Enh, Insight Int +4, Quality Armor Bonus +4, Quality Wizardry +65 spell points, +10 Insight Potency, Green. Quiver - 8% Doubleshot, Ranged Power +4. Repeating Heavy XBow - 6.5[1d10] (BRD 57.00), Keen III, Armor Piercing 20%, Sov Vorpal, Shrieking V, Orange. Orb - +12 Enh, Wizardry +275 spell points, Insight Spell Pen +2, Quality Spell Focus +2, Orange Throwing Dagger - 5[1d4] (BDR 26.95) Solar VI, Greater Bleeding, Improved Paralyzing, Orange. Robe - +12 Enh, Insight Charisma +4, Insight Potency +10, Quality Wizardry +65 points, Quality Armor +4, Green. Thanks Ash. That is mostly a boatload of meh at ML 28. Most would be desirable at ML 20-24 or so. The quiver will be a clear best in slot for any ranged character that can't afford -50 to concentration. (10k stars shuriken chuckers and monkchers) I would still probably want it on others though since speed, insightful sneak attack, and stealth strike are potentially available elsewhere. The boots aren't special in and of themselves, but they free up bracer options without giving up that save bonus. (Considering my typical bracer progression on almost every character/build is Guardian at 15, Sun Soul at 20, Ethereal at 27) The trinket fails to compete with e Litany, but 14 seeker is nice so I could see a pally or other good-aligned character wearing it or maybe a trapper that wants to have the seeker and search and spot slotted all the time. The necklace looks like junk, but is helped out by the fact that there isn't an abundance of amazing necklaces right now. The sheltering/fort ring is worth a slot if you don't already have those effects slotted, but the other ring is a complete joke. The daggers are decent I guess. I like how they compliment each other, several of those abilities will apply to both hands.

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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: U28 loot Reply #48 - Sep 22^nd, 2015 at 9:30am	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2015 at 1:22am: Thanks Ash. That is mostly a boatload of meh at ML 28. Most would be desirable at ML 20-24 or so. The quiver will be a clear best in slot for any ranged character that can't afford -50 to concentration. (10k stars shuriken chuckers and monkchers) I would still probably want it on others though since speed, insightful sneak attack, and stealth strike are potentially available elsewhere. The boots aren't special in and of themselves, but they free up bracer options without giving up that save bonus. (Considering my typical bracer progression on almost every character/build is Guardian at 15, Sun Soul at 20, Ethereal at 27) The trinket fails to compete with e Litany, but 14 seeker is nice so I could see a pally or other good-aligned character wearing it or maybe a trapper that wants to have the seeker and search and spot slotted all the time. The necklace looks like junk, but is helped out by the fact that there isn't an abundance of amazing necklaces right now. The sheltering/fort ring is worth a slot if you don't already have those effects slotted, but the other ring is a complete joke. The daggers are decent I guess. I like how they compliment each other, several of those abilities will apply to both hands. The Necklace is probably the best of the set gear and is definitely helped by the lack of decent ones that don't annoyingly spawn eidolons all over the place. If the ring was Sheltering +30 and the fort was +150, then the ring would be a solid item at ML 28. If they had made all this stuff ML 26, I'd be a lot more interested in some of it as leveling gear.


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m4lacka Horoluth Raider Offline Coitus ergo sum. Posts: 2494 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2014	Re: U28 loot Reply #49 - Sep 23^rd, 2015 at 6:48am	Print Post
	What adventure pack is this stuff? Three barrel cove?

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