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Viable Monkcher melee hybrid
Sep 26th, 2015 at 5:46am
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Longbow for ranged, shorts swords for melee. Dex to hit and damage for both and DWS core 4 enhances criticals for both.


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Race: Human/PDK
Alignment: Lawful Neutral
Class: 12 Ranger/6 Monk/2 Fighter
RRMMRRMMRFMMRRRRRRFR


Stats:..........Level 1 (36 pt build)(+5 tomes or better recommended)

Strength............8
Dexterity...........18 (+ level ups)
Constitution.......12
Intelligence........8
Wisdom.............18
Charisma...........8


Feat Progression
RRMMRRMMRFMMRRRRRRFR
Level 1   : Point Blank Shot H: Precision
Level 3   : Completionist
Level 6   : Weapon Focus Ranged
Level 9   : Quicken Spell
Level 12 : Master of Forms
Level 15 : Empower Healing
Level 18 : Power Critical
Level 21 : Overwhelming Critical
Level 24 : Combat Archery
Level 26 : Holy Strike
Level 27 : Epic DR
Level 28 : Elusive Target

Monk Bonus
1: Deflect Arrows
2: Zen Archery
6: 10k Stars

Fighter Bonus
1: Improved Crit Ranged
2: Improved Crit Pierce

Ranger Autogrants
2: Rapid Shot, TWF
4: Precise Shot
6: Manyshot, ITWF
11: Improved Precise Shot, GTWF

(PDK: Take Weapon Focus at level 1, Power Crit at level 6, Imp crit at level 18)

Enhancements:

DWS-   34?
Ninja-   12
Kensai- 11
AA-      8
Shintao- 8
Tempest-6
Racial-   1

Epic Destiny: Legendary Dreadnought

Twists: 4/3/1/1

Sense Weakness
Balanced Attacks
Rejuvenation Cocoon
Dance of Flowers


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Re: Viable Monkcher melee hybrid
Reply #1 - Sep 26th, 2015 at 11:23am
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Take something else than power critical.  Improved twf IMO.  Epic dr take epic reflexes.  Just suggestions.  Two Pali instead of fighter but two lost feats.
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Reply #2 - Sep 26th, 2015 at 11:30am
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Now that I look at it again closer I'd leave fighter, but power crit for imp twf, epic dr for reflexes.   Everything else looks good.
  
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Re: Viable Monkcher melee hybrid
Reply #3 - Sep 26th, 2015 at 11:31am
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Why no perfect twf instead of holy strike?
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Re: Viable Monkcher melee hybrid
Reply #4 - Sep 26th, 2015 at 11:44am
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Doodle wrote on Sep 26th, 2015 at 11:30am:
imp twf

6th lv ranger auto-grant
  

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Re: Viable Monkcher melee hybrid
Reply #5 - Sep 26th, 2015 at 11:49am
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Doodle wrote on Sep 26th, 2015 at 11:31am:
Why no perfect twf instead of holy strike?

I was wondering this myself.
  

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Re: Viable Monkcher melee hybrid
Reply #6 - Sep 26th, 2015 at 12:57pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Sep 26th, 2015 at 11:44am:
6th lv ranger auto-grant



Yeah I'm a dumb ass and forgot that.
  
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Re: Viable Monkcher melee hybrid
Reply #7 - Sep 26th, 2015 at 10:33pm
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Power Critical and Holy Strike apply to both ranged and melee, so they add much more value to a hybrid build than they would typically offer to just one or the other.

Is there anything else I can take that adds to both melee and ranged? I don't know if Sense Weakness and Balanced Attacks are the best choices since only the helpless damage would apply to ranged and ranged won't have a way to reliably inflict helplessness. Grim Precision sounds like a good alternative, but then again I usually consider SW+BA mandatory for melee vs trash on any build that can use them.

I was also considering Helf...should be able to drop a meta without issue, but I'd need like 17 points in the tree to make it worth taking. Would have to drop passive ki regen from Kensai or Sting of the Ninja and some offhand strikes from Shintao. (I've been looking for an excuse to roll a Helf actually, since I bought it and then it got obsoleted by the enhancement pass before I had a chance to play it.)

This is just a thought experiment at the moment BTW. A friend was bugging me about what changes he should make to his monkcher with the ranger pass in play, and since he refused to take "reroll" for an answer, this is my second-best answer.  Cheesy

It should be viable in both styles and fun to play at least.
« Last Edit: Sep 26th, 2015 at 10:35pm by 5 Foot Step »  

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Re: Viable Monkcher melee hybrid
Reply #8 - Sep 27th, 2015 at 2:10am
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Gear:

Armor : ToEE Robe (any besides fire)
Goggles : Visions of Precision
Helmet : Sightless
Necklace : Mystic Eidolons
Trinket : Epic Litany
Cloak : Mysterious Remnant Cloak
Belt : Epic Thoughtful Remembrance
Ring 1: Strange Tidings
Ring 2: Swap (primarily Sage's Ring for spellpower)
Gloves : Iron Mitts
Boots : Privateer's
Bracers : Epic Ethereal
Quiver : Epic Dynamistic

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Re: Viable Monkcher melee hybrid
Reply #9 - Oct 16th, 2015 at 2:32pm
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the build sucks; kill yourself.
  
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Reply #10 - Oct 16th, 2015 at 4:27pm
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[] wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 2:32pm:
the build sucks; kill yourself.


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Re: Viable Monkcher melee hybrid
Reply #11 - Oct 16th, 2015 at 4:29pm
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no srsly: it's complete shit, no DPS, no self healing, spread thin; and he's even listing gear?  wtf?
  
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Re: Viable Monkcher melee hybrid
Reply #12 - Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:22pm
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