Just gearing up for my next life and planning to do a warrior/bard starting on a PDK Iconic and doing single weapon fighting. I've seen a few different iterations of this build and I wanted to get some advice on the favored level split. I've seen anywhere fromn 2 to 6 fighter levels. I'm planning to focus primarily on melee though.

noamineo wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 4:46pm:

Does it have to be a multiclass build or can it be pure? If so check out the Count of Monte Cristo build. It is a pure bard swashbucking/CC build. I've played it before and it was one of my favorite plays to date.

I've enjoyed a 16 Bard/3 Fighter/1 Rogue. Charisma based, tier 5 in the Warchanter tree, stance, heavy armor, short sword, buckler, swashbuckler, shield feats, traps. The game has probably swung in the other direction by now though, and evasion might be more desirable than heavy armor again. I have no idea. Just now trying to get back into the game after missing a few updates.

I prefer the 15bard/3fighter/2rogue split  because it is the most flexible one imho. If you are sure you never want to use Inspire Heroics or Inspire Excellence and don't mind scrolling GH 12 level of bard are enough.

Doggydaddy wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 9:03am:


Why would the traps be medicore? Bard gets a ton of skillpoints. With 14 starting INT and a +4 tome you can get Perform, UMD, Concentration, Search, Disable, Open maxed and there are still 10+ skillpoints left for spot or heal. And that is on a STR, CHA or DEX build - INT build can get more. And Evasion is OK on a DEX or INT build with insightful reflexes.

Doggydaddy wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 9:03am:

15/3/2 gets evasion, traps, and stance.

not hard to reach 60 reflex with a middle 30's dex score. 

Galadriel wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 10:17am:

Prolly not on a min/maxxer toon. Personally, I find it improves my overall enjoyment of the game when mobs show up before hitting my toon as opposed to after.

Doggydaddy wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 4:27pm:


Youe get the most skillpoints out of your rogue levels when you take one at level one and one at level 15 after your +4 INT tome kicked in. If you take rogue or bard as first level on a human build you get a ton of skillpoints but you don't have BAB 1 and that limits the feats you can take at level one. SWF is a no-brainer for level one but the bonus feat can only be insightful reflexes, toughness, magical training (but you can get that one from spellinger too) or SAP (along with some useless other feats) I always take SAP because I solo a lot and SAP + Cup de Grace is a 0 SP instant kill that works every time. Simply love it.