noamineo wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 11:27am:

it's pretty good. Not huge base damage, but it can crit and shiradi proc. Is fine thing to do to conserve sp, build depravity stacks, and just rewards. Go with acid pact to max shiradi proc and less immune mobs. Sonic gets evaded too much.

Embers is giving a gift of free metas 20 seconds. not sure if other items give the same or relative discount to all.

Rubbinns wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 11:17am:

Link?

Also, I've seen random gen gloves up to 13% spell critical, only 4% off.  In my setup, that would mean giving up earthen mantle, but allows me to keep resonation which I think is worth it.  Best of both worlds?

AtomicMew wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 3:36pm:


Man, I thought the flawless blue dragonscale docent was 15%, just checked and it's only 9

A long, long time ago I did some tests to determine which lore tier 4 sonic procs use (force or sonic lore).  I re-did this test after resetting destiny, enhancements and removing all counter sources (MOK, empyrean magic, etc.)

Conditions:
sonic_sp = 300
sonic_crit_chance = 0.07
force_crit_chance = 0.30
multiplier = 0.5 (0.25 LGS, 0.25 scion of fire) + 2 base


Results:

Blue = empirical distribution
Purple = simulated distribution with force crit chance
Gray = simulated distribution with sonic crit chance
Dotted = distributions with weighted dice

Conclusions:
1) Sonic procs don't use weighted dice, as previously suspected
2) Sonic procs USE SONIC LORE to determine critical chance

So basically, some form of lore (universal or sonic) is essential for maximum DPS.  I just recalled that the new U31 Dashing gloves have 27% sonic lore as well as a huge amount of sonic spellpower.  Personally, the only elemental spell I use on a regular basis is hellball, which doesn't justify sacrificing that much sonic lore and spellpower for spell lore on random gen gloves.  So optimal gear IMO is resonation + dashing gloves. 

Rubbinns wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2016 at 11:36am:


But at what levels are you seeing these numbers?

Most times when people discuss builds, they only talk about cap and max-level. I'm a TR-junkie, so the amount of time I spend at cap is measured by how long it takes me to get from the fatespinner to the reincarnation grove. I don't own a single ML30 item.

AtomicJew with the graph...kill yourself.

noamineo wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 4:08pm:


Look at it another way...

Since they dont reset (and neither do sagas you have completed but not taken the reward for) you can have hundreds of thousands of XP waiting for you when you go back to 20.  Prepping a few high-value slayers like Orchard and Thunderholme can really make those first few levels fly by.

They do not, unless there's some method being passed around of which I'm not aware.

Get yourself a heavy yellow connection, complete the saga, throw away stone before it gets automatically used.  TR and then buy back the stone.  Use at lvl 1

@ElGuapo, its a nice method but more trouble than it's worth. Thanks, though!

After careful consideration I have concluded that my next life will be that 10/6/4 human linked to earlier. Might not do all 3 on that, but it'll be a huge breath of fresh air. I'm going to stone it though and skip nearly to 20 then climb all the way to 30 for a nice ETR followed by HTR. Should be entertaining to say the least.

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I'm certain there is, it just happens that the build is quite litterally called "shiradi easy button" Frankly I'm not even sure what the shiradi part of that title means, but thats not the part I was interested in.

I am assuming the build gets its name from Shiradi Champion? All those "on ranged attack or ranged spell" procs look highly entertaining. Hey, wouldnt those also work with the ranged eldrich blasts? you could be constantly outputting...