Vault - Getting saves into a FVS?

Vault › General › DDO-Specific Discussion › Builds › Getting saves into a FVS?

(Moderator: Strakeln)

‹ Previous Topic | Next Topic ›

Page Index Toggle

Pages: 1

Normal Topic

Getting saves into a FVS? (Read 2743 times)

goldgolem Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 193 Joined: Feb 11^th, 2014	Getting saves into a FVS? Jul 30^th, 2016 at 7:54pm	Print Post
	PLayign an evoker build, but its soft as hell and also has no saves or damage mitigation I am fine to splash 2 levels of something else. Was thinking rog and going INT for dex saves (helps spellcraft too) I could splash monk, but if you dont have decent dex, it doenst help you anyway. I am currently on 22 dex save and need at least 60 without gimping my damage too much... any ideas?


	IP Logged

WeHaveLived Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 945 Joined: Apr 24^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Getting saves into a FVS? Reply #1 - Jul 30^th, 2016 at 9:38pm	Print Post
	Why the Hell do you need 60 reflex on a FVS?


	IP Logged

Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Getting saves into a FVS? Reply #2 - Jul 30^th, 2016 at 10:32pm	Print Post
	goldgolem wrote on Jul 30^th, 2016 at 7:54pm: I am currently on 22 dex save impossible at cap for a fvs. 11 from 18 fvs levels 5 from 30 epic levels 4 gh scroll 3 vs spells from fvs AoV tree 7 parry item 14 base dex including a +4 tome. 10 dex item 2 insight dex 1 exceptional 27 dex +8 mod 38 reflex save.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
	IP Logged

[] Madame President Offline Posts: 10532 Joined: Oct 16^th, 2015	Re: Getting saves into a FVS? Reply #3 - Jul 31^st, 2016 at 3:08am	Print Post
	You're neglecting all kinds of FVS spell effects, rubedude; also, FVS/Pal splash for saves leaves an open level (17 fvs, 2 pal, and the rest is between you and the Lord of All Things Great & Small.)
	« Last Edit: Aug 1^st, 2016 at 1:08am by [] »

	IP Logged

Starkjade Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Rogue Scholar Posts: 7082 Location: Canadia Joined: Aug 27^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Getting saves into a FVS? Reply #4 - Jul 31^st, 2016 at 5:18am	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Jul 30^th, 2016 at 10:32pm: 38 reflex save. Off the top of my head: +8 with a 2 Pal splash +4 Good Luck +12? Resistance item (I don't know how high resistance goes now) +x insightful reflex item Don't ask me how to fit that into gear, though, I have no clue anymore. Plus twists: +6 Magister: Unearthly Reactions T1 +6 Shadowdancer: Lithe T2 +2 Sentinel : Brace T1 I'm sure you'd be gimping yourself taking those though.

	Two sips from the cup of human kindness and I'm shitfaced
	IP Logged

Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Getting saves into a FVS? Reply #5 - Jul 31^st, 2016 at 6:27am	Print Post
	right. there is no way that a low 22 reflex could be on a capped fvs.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
	IP Logged

goldgolem Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 193 Joined: Feb 11^th, 2014	Re: Getting saves into a FVS? Reply #6 - Jul 31^st, 2016 at 8:06am	Print Post
	Hes not capped and I havent bothered trying to scrape a few extra points. 40 reflex save is no good So if I cant get saves, what are people doing for defense on a FVS? Cant imagine AC or DR get to much either The pali splash doesnt give you much after the nerf


	IP Logged

Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Getting saves into a FVS? Reply #7 - Jul 31^st, 2016 at 10:12am	Print Post
	Starkjade wrote on Jul 31^st, 2016 at 5:18am: Off the top of my head: +8 with a 2 Pal splash +4 Good Luck +12? Resistance item (I don't know how high resistance goes now) +x insightful reflex item Don't ask me how to fit that into gear, though, I have no clue anymore. Plus twists: +6 Magister: Unearthly Reactions T1 +6 Shadowdancer: Lithe T2 +2 Sentinel : Brace T1 I'm sure you'd be gimping yourself taking those though. Rubbinss was saying that a current save of 22 was impossibly low. That even without effort you could get better. Not that 38 was the max an FvS could get. An FvS with no splash can easily get into the 40's.


	IP Logged

Starkjade Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Rogue Scholar Posts: 7082 Location: Canadia Joined: Aug 27^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Getting saves into a FVS? Reply #8 - Jul 31^st, 2016 at 11:08am	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Jul 31^st, 2016 at 6:27am: right. there is no way that a low 22 reflex could be on a capped fvs. Ahh, I misunderstood. But yeah, easy enough to get your saves up. For defense, just like anyone else, max your dodge, blur/displace, ghostly. PRR and MRR, all you can find, there is some in the Warpriest tree, not too high up. Use a shield or orb, turtle up when you're about to be hit with a spell. Pally splash gets you heavy armour, use it.

	Two sips from the cup of human kindness and I'm shitfaced
	IP Logged

Wipe VoD Slasher Offline Posts: 1917 Joined: Mar 26^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Getting saves into a FVS? Reply #9 - Jul 31^st, 2016 at 1:43pm	Print Post
	Fuck the saves. What is there to save anyway ? Fire elly and those kobold shamen dragon breath in Search and rescue ? At least for me every death is due to melee damage.


	IP Logged

Tilo Ex Member	Re: Getting saves into a FVS? Reply #10 - Jul 31^st, 2016 at 3:34pm	Print Post



	IP Logged

I Still have ur lunch money Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 3 Location: Midland Mi Joined: Aug 16^th, 2016 Gender:	Re: Getting saves into a FVS? Reply #11 - Aug 16^th, 2016 at 5:57pm	Print Post
	Take 2 levels of monk and max out Ocean stance..you will get 4 more Wisdom as well.

	I rip it hardcore like porno flick bitches My only addiction is trailer park women
	IP Logged

noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 8854 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Getting saves into a FVS? Reply #12 - Aug 16^th, 2016 at 6:21pm	Print Post
	Why such a focus on saves? If the issue is survivability, why not go for PRR? Going all out for 60 reflex save doesn't seem nearly as useful as getting 100 or so PRR.

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
	IP Logged

Friendship Korthos Resident Offline Love me! Please? Posts: 61 Joined: Aug 15^th, 2016	Re: Getting saves into a FVS? Reply #13 - Aug 17^th, 2016 at 2:55pm	Print Post
	Wipe wrote on Jul 31^st, 2016 at 1:43pm: Fuck the saves. What is there to save anyway ? Fire elly and those kobold shamen dragon breath in Search and rescue ? At least for me every death is due to melee damage. Saves are nice, if you're actually close enough to actually save. 22 reflex in EE is the same as 44 reflex. So, you fail your roll by 20 more, but it's the same end effect. Get some dodge, get some MRR, get some PRR. There's enough shields that you can slot useful stuff into if you're desperate, especially if a caster. Not like you're trying to swing a greatsword there buddy.


	IP Logged

painkiller Waterworks Kobold Offline Posts: 188 Joined: May 14^th, 2013	Re: Getting saves into a FVS? Reply #14 - Aug 18^th, 2016 at 8:43am	Print Post
	I Still have ur lunch money wrote on Aug 16^th, 2016 at 5:57pm: Take 2 levels of monk and max out Ocean stance..you will get 4 more Wisdom as well. that's three feats though...I was trying to make a clonk work for the extra wisdom, but with completionist, spell penetration chain, necro chain, quicken, heighten, intensify, past life : wizard what do you drop to fit the feats in?
	« Last Edit: Aug 18^th, 2016 at 8:44am by painkiller »

	IP Logged

Wipe VoD Slasher Offline Posts: 1917 Joined: Mar 26^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Getting saves into a FVS? Reply #15 - Aug 18^th, 2016 at 2:18pm	Print Post
	Friendship wrote on Aug 17^th, 2016 at 2:55pm: Get some dodge, get some MRR, get some PRR Aye, I have light armour on my fvs, resistance on belt, buncha prr lives, slotted dex, insight dex, max dodge possible. Scrolling GH after every bloody shrine since 2009 lol. Doesn't change the fact that I can't remember the last death to spell damage. Okay I do - pre nerf Thunder Peaks.


	IP Logged

() Special Attention Offline Hamster cocks expert Posts: 376 Location: Gayer & Retardia Joined: Nov 1^st, 2015 Gender:	Re: Getting saves into a FVS? Reply #16 - Jun 22^nd, 2017 at 2:17pm	Print Post


	Halfmaniac wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 8:16pm: I'm pretty sure it is safe to say that KNN has brought a BUNCH of stupid from users on this forum out in the open Halfmaniac wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 8:16pm: Some of you got baited real bad in an attempt to troll him back.
	IP Logged

Page Index Toggle

Pages: 1

‹ Previous Topic | Next Topic ›

« Board Index ‹ Board Top

Top

Vault » Powered by YaBB 2.6.11!
YaBB Forum Software © 2000-2024. All Rights Reserved.

Valid XHTML

Valid CSS

Powered by Perl

Source Forge