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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 10011 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	WB has been bought... by AT&T.... Oct 24^th, 2016 at 5:18am	Print Post
	Well actually it's Time Warner, mothership of WB that was bought... So now Turbine's Food Chain will be as follow : AT&T -> Time Warner -> Warner Bros -> Turbine. Now if only they could move the servers from whatever crappy hosting facility they use to a real datacenter owned by AT&T it would be great... We, Europeans never had issues when the European Game Servers were hosted by AT&T in Amsterdam.

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m4lacka Horoluth Raider Offline Coitus ergo sum. Posts: 2494 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2014	Re: WB has been bought... by AT&T.... Reply #1 - Oct 24^th, 2016 at 5:33am	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Oct 24^th, 2016 at 5:18am: Well actually it's Time Warner, mothership of WB that was bought... So now Turbine's Food Chain will be as follow : AT&T -> Time Warner -> Warner Bros -> Turbine. Now if only they could move the servers from whatever crappy hosting facility they use to a real datacenter owned by AT&T it would be great... We, Europeans never had issues when the European Game Servers were hosted by AT&T in Amsterdam.

	Vaultaccount wrote on Aug 29^th, 2016 at 7:06pm: The most broken epic PL in the game is the ridiculous AC buff from martial PLs. But when you include all the inherent benefits from reincarnation, the thing is above the roof. The benefit from TR was supposed to be minimal, but now it is game breaking. start a new character and you will feel, you will get raped in heroics. Personally I think lower heroics on new characters are harder than Legendary Elite content on a character with good gear and has all destinies farmed. Arkat wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:14pm: And someone in another thread called ME delusional recently! Wow. Have you EVER gone to Law School Feyn? Have you EVER been asked by a United States Senator who is now the Vice President of the United States to write a paper just for him on a particular topic of Constitutional Law for his use as a Senator? Have you ever been asked to help a very notable Harvard PhD turned Constitutional scholar with his very-well received book on Legal Philosophy and Constitutional Revolutions? Have you ever been offered a job as a Deputy Attorney General BEFORE you even graduated Law School? No? Then STFU you fucking amateur. Meat-Head wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 12:03am: Thx. I was semi-waiting because windows 10 will be here soon. but, the crashing is making me want to punch old people. IMARANGER wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 5:40pm: Pretty sure that the fact that a service can be hacked doesn't make it the "community chest".
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Sim-Sala-Bim Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Wha...? Posts: 5356 Joined: Nov 2^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: WB has been bought... by AT&T.... Reply #2 - Oct 24^th, 2016 at 6:26am	Print Post
	$85.4 Billion.


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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 10011 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: WB has been bought... by AT&T.... Reply #3 - Oct 24^th, 2016 at 10:42am	Print Post
	Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Oct 24^th, 2016 at 6:26am: $85.4 Billion. That's the cash bit... there's also some shares involved...

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FranOhmsford Dragon Raider Offline Rule Britannia Posts: 249 Location: Cannock Chase Joined: Jul 26^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: WB has been bought... by AT&T.... Reply #4 - Oct 24^th, 2016 at 11:13am	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Oct 24^th, 2016 at 5:18am: Well actually it's Time Warner, mothership of WB that was bought... So now Turbine's Food Chain will be as follow : AT&T -> Time Warner -> Warner Bros -> Turbine. Now if only they could move the servers from whatever crappy hosting facility they use to a real datacenter owned by AT&T it would be great... We, Europeans never had issues when the European Game Servers were hosted by AT&T in Amsterdam. http://www.wsj.com/articles/at-t-faces-political-barrage-1477270122

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Technomage Epic Poster Offline And so it begins... Posts: 4444 Location: Tucson, AZ Joined: Aug 27^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: WB has been bought... by AT&T.... Reply #5 - Oct 24^th, 2016 at 1:42pm	Print Post
	They haven't been bought yet. The deal still needs approval after anti-trust issues are addressed.

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Technomage Epic Poster Offline And so it begins... Posts: 4444 Location: Tucson, AZ Joined: Aug 27^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: WB has been bought... by AT&T.... Reply #6 - Oct 24^th, 2016 at 4:30pm	Print Post
	More bad news for the "merger": http://www.wsj.com/articles/at-t-time-warner-shares-drop-amid-wall-street-skepti...

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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	Re: WB has been bought... by AT&T.... Reply #7 - Oct 24^th, 2016 at 5:10pm	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Oct 24^th, 2016 at 5:18am: Now if only they could move the servers from whatever crappy hosting facility they use to a real datacenter owned by AT&T it would be great... Are you fucking insane? They have proven their utter, staggering incompetence in server migration, and you think suggesting yet another one is a good thing? Seven chimpanzees and a beagle could perform a better server migration than Turbine.

	No, let me be Frank. Digimonk wrote on Dec 8^th, 2016 at 12:39pm: I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive. Smart players know how to use buyback. Digimonk wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:58pm: I will not chone. I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect. Smart people don't elicit "side effects."� They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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Metal-Beast Abbot Raider Offline \m/ Posts: 767 Joined: Apr 13^th, 2014	Re: WB has been bought... by AT&T.... Reply #8 - Oct 24^th, 2016 at 11:08pm	Print Post
	Frank wrote on Oct 24^th, 2016 at 5:10pm: Are you fucking insane?� They have proven their utter, staggering incompetence in server migration, and you think suggesting yet another one is a good thing? Seven chimpanzees and a beagle could perform a better server migration than Turbine. Hey, server migration is hard. It'd take at least 8 chimps,� a pygmy marmoset and a Basset Hound to do it better. Be fair.

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Digimonk Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 1573 Joined: Apr 7^th, 2015	Re: WB has been bought... by AT&T.... Reply #9 - Oct 24^th, 2016 at 11:27pm	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Oct 24^th, 2016 at 5:18am: Well actually it's Time Warner, mothership of WB that was bought... So now Turbine's Food Chain will be as follow : AT&T -> Time Warner -> Warner Bros -> Turbine. Now if only they could move the servers from whatever crappy hosting facility they use to a real datacenter owned by AT&T it would be great... We, Europeans never had issues when the European Game Servers were hosted by AT&T in Amsterdam. I've dealt with AT&T at the enterprise level in the US for 10+ years.� If you think AT&T will improve things from the low, low bar that Turbine has set, you're most likely going to be disappointed. AT&T actually makes Comcast look good sometimes if you can imagine that. Ordered a new circuit from them and they said 90 days.� 9 months later, was still waiting for the circuit. Ordered a new circuit from Windstream for the same site and 1.5 months it was live.� AT&T is the LEC for the Windstream circuit...
	« Last Edit: Oct 24^th, 2016 at 11:33pm by Digimonk »

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ThereIsNoSpoon Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 69 Joined: Jun 28^th, 2014	Re: WB has been bought... by AT&T.... Reply #10 - Oct 25^th, 2016 at 12:54pm	Print Post
	Charter Communications just bought Time Warner in May.� If AT&T buys them so quickly, it can only be bad for business.� There hasn't been enough time for Charter to decide which Timer Warner employees are worth keeping, or which ones need to have their positions filled by Charter employees.� I'd imagine they already have a company full of ass kissers and yes men.� Then to do it again so quickly, it sounds like one big clusterfuck to me. Add in that AT&T already owns Direct TV, so I'd be shocked if it happened.� The government wouldn't let TW and Comcast merge, why would they essentially let Direct TV and TW merge? Edit: Nevermind. It looks like Time Warner Cable (TV and internet) is a separate entity to Time Warner. So the Direct TV/TW Cable thing wouldn't be an issue.
	« Last Edit: Oct 25^th, 2016 at 12:57pm by ThereIsNoSpoon »

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Technomage Epic Poster Offline And so it begins... Posts: 4444 Location: Tucson, AZ Joined: Aug 27^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: WB has been bought... by AT&T.... Reply #11 - Oct 25^th, 2016 at 1:07pm	Print Post
	Digimonk wrote on Oct 24^th, 2016 at 11:27pm: Ordered a new circuit from Windstream for the same site and 1.5 months it was live.� AT&T is the LEC for the Windstream circuit... Similar experiences with Verizon and Broadwing several years ago.

	Do not try the patience of wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger. We are dreamers, shapers, singers, and makers. We study the mysteries of laser and circuit, crystal and scanner, holographic demons and invocation of equations. These are the tools we employ, and we know many things. The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
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Meursault Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Freedom of Speech Posts: 2410 Location: Hartford, CT; USA Joined: Aug 22^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: WB has been bought... by AT&T.... Reply #12 - Oct 25^th, 2016 at 4:44pm	Print Post
	Digimonk wrote on Oct 24^th, 2016 at 11:27pm: AT&T actually makes Comcast look good sometimes if you can imagine that. Wow, that's a pretty low bar.

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WeHaveLived Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 945 Joined: Apr 24^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: WB has been bought... by AT&T.... Reply #13 - Oct 25^th, 2016 at 11:01pm	Print Post
	Almost as low as the one Turbine sets.


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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 10011 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: WB has been bought... by AT&T.... Reply #14 - Oct 26^th, 2016 at 1:21am	Print Post
	well, on our side of the Pond AT&T seems to be a correct Tier 1 Carrier. And as I stated, when Codemasters hosted the DDO Servers in AT&T Datacenter in AMS we never had any issue... and we didn't have any lag ( except on old decrepit hardware that were below the minimum specs, or when everybody in the server was in Phiarlan Theater for some event, with GM dropping mob on top of us. ). Latency was in the 20/40ms all the time for me.

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[] Madame President Offline Posts: 10532 Joined: Oct 16^th, 2015	Re: WB has been bought... by AT&T.... Reply #15 - Oct 26^th, 2016 at 3:02pm	Print Post
	I'll bet even money this deal never gets approved.


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Digimonk Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 1573 Joined: Apr 7^th, 2015	Re: WB has been bought... by AT&T.... Reply #16 - Oct 26^th, 2016 at 3:04pm	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Oct 26^th, 2016 at 1:21am: well, on our side of the Pond AT&T seems to be a correct Tier 1 Carrier. And as I stated, when Codemasters hosted the DDO Servers in AT&T Datacenter in AMS we never had any issue... and we didn't have any lag ( except on old decrepit hardware that were below the minimum specs, or when everybody in the server was in Phiarlan Theater for some event, with GM dropping mob on top of us. ). Latency was in the 20/40ms all the time for me. I expect that is mostly due to the more competitive nature of the telecom market in the EU. In the US, mega corps have so much legislative protection and such minimal competition that they have almost zero incentive to care. As one of the AT&T techs told me while installing the hardware for a non-AT&T circuit, "It's okay, we own all the lines in this entire area. We either get our cut directly from you or we get it from your provider because lease the lines from us."


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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	Re: WB has been bought... by AT&T.... Reply #17 - Oct 26^th, 2016 at 7:28pm	Print Post
	Technomage wrote on Oct 25^th, 2016 at 1:07pm: Similar experiences with Verizon and Broadwing several years ago. Every carrier has their derp moments.

	No, let me be Frank. Digimonk wrote on Dec 8^th, 2016 at 12:39pm: I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive. Smart players know how to use buyback. Digimonk wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:58pm: I will not chone. I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect. Smart people don't elicit "side effects."� They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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Illiterate Titan Demolisher Offline Yataaaa Posts: 359 Location: France Joined: Jul 31^st, 2010 Gender:	Re: WB has been bought... by AT&T.... Reply #18 - Oct 27^th, 2016 at 5:08pm	Print Post
	Last I heard, Al Franken was against the deal.

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DoRayEgon Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1042 Joined: Apr 4^th, 2014	Re: WB has been bought... by AT&T.... Reply #19 - Oct 27^th, 2016 at 5:21pm	Print Post
	Illiterate wrote on Oct 27^th, 2016 at 5:08pm: Last I heard, Al Franken was against the deal. Donald Trump and his hair are for it.


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QuantumFX Shroud Slacker Offline Now back to the GOOD part! Posts: 1170 Joined: Nov 15^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: WB has been bought... by AT&T.... Reply #20 - Oct 27^th, 2016 at 7:37pm	Print Post
	It�s adorable how you guys think ownership by AT&T will somehow improve Turbine.


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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	Re: WB has been bought... by AT&T.... Reply #21 - Oct 27^th, 2016 at 8:16pm	Print Post
	QuantumFX wrote on Oct 27^th, 2016 at 7:37pm: It�s adorable how you guys think ownership by AT&T will somehow improve Turbine. The set of "you guys" appears to contain only Flav at this time.

	No, let me be Frank. Digimonk wrote on Dec 8^th, 2016 at 12:39pm: I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive. Smart players know how to use buyback. Digimonk wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:58pm: I will not chone. I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect. Smart people don't elicit "side effects."� They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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Grand Ex Member I Love Drama!	Re: WB has been bought... by AT&T.... Reply #22 - Oct 27^th, 2016 at 11:16pm	Print Post
	I'm pretty sure that ATT buying will have little if any effect as far down stream as turbine.


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Silky Shroud Slacker Offline Posts: 1267 Joined: Dec 7^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: WB has been bought... by AT&T.... Reply #23 - Oct 27^th, 2016 at 11:21pm	Print Post
	Grand wrote on Oct 27^th, 2016 at 11:16pm: I'm pretty sure that ATT buying will have little if any effect as far down stream as turbine. Sure anything AT&T decide will have fuck all to do with Turbine but any changes they bring could easily kill turbine as a side effect.


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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: WB has been bought... by AT&T.... Reply #24 - Oct 28^th, 2016 at 3:44am	Print Post
	DoRayEgon wrote on Oct 27^th, 2016 at 5:21pm: Donald Trump and his hair are for it. So rare when they agree.

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