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Reply #50 - Mar 4th, 2017 at 9:10pm
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Sailias wrote on Mar 4th, 2017 at 9:06pm:
An apology does not look good on you

yeah...  never feel like am doing that right. probably falls in somewhere on the autistic spectrum for me.
  

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Reply #51 - Mar 4th, 2017 at 10:36pm
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Sailias wrote on Mar 4th, 2017 at 5:25pm:
If any of the devs read these forums, that's awful, because these forums are pile of awful personal attacks. I know I had to stop coming here for a while when I worked there, it got to be too much for me. I tried my best to fix things and people here told me they hope my coworkers would kill themselves.

I have really thin skin, if I'm being honest. I dunno.

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Reply #52 - Mar 4th, 2017 at 10:41pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Mar 4th, 2017 at 8:58pm:
sorry. I say that a lot. you should understand that I do not mean it in the literal usage. rather in a metaphorical sense of one's inner self that needs to die for change to come about. hope this helps. bye.

  

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Reply #53 - Mar 4th, 2017 at 11:20pm
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Sailias wrote on Mar 4th, 2017 at 5:25pm:
I tried my best to fix things and people here told me they hope my coworkers would kill themselves.

Yeah, but they weren't trying their best to fix things.   Grin


Here's the thing - you're a new player; you've played some FPS, you dicked around a bit in WoW, and this is free, so you'll try it out.  Roll up a paladin because turning undead sounds cool, right?  Battle evil and destroy them in a blast of light!  Pick one of the preset options, because you have no idea wtf the difference is between wis and int (somethingsomething come out of the rain; which is the turning one again?), and jump in!

Then you spend fifteen fucking tries to get through the Grotto, because you're a first life and you can't skip it, not to mention you have no idea why you would...
An hour later, and you're standing in Korthos, with 4 hard levels to go before you quit and do something else because your toon is a fucking gimp factory.  Bye.

Remember when the signup form was broken for a MONTH?  We do, because that's hilarious, but nobody else does, and they're not playing now.

People here have good ideas about how to fix shit, and most of us consider the official priority list to be way out of whack.  Hook 'em early - that first quest needs to be *bulletproof*, as well as fun.  It's fine, as long as it works.  Which is never.  Snowy/sunny Korthos is a cool idea, and it was neat when there were 15,000 people on.  Now it's just a winter graveyard, which turns into a summer graveyard if you stick with it.  DDO's a MORPG at this point.  Except there's not much RP, unless everybody *isn't* a ranting autist.   Cheesy  A MOG.


Sailias wrote on Mar 4th, 2017 at 5:25pm:
If any of the devs read these forums, that's awful, because these forums are pile of awful personal attacks.

Welcome to having a public persona?  Even if you're loved, you're going to have a legion of shit-talkers who hate you and want you to suffer before you die slowly.  Anonymity's a great thing, but it comes with some downsides.

I don't necessarily agree with all that, either.  I think most people here can make a distinction between public and private lives, although there are definitely some who don't care.  Case in point: Cordo's perhaps-or-not divorce.  I think that's off-limits, and people were mostly in accord.  Some delighted in it.  I understand it, but I don't agree with it.  He's a shitty moderator, and he and Fran should make a guild on Wayfinder and run together and there should be a third DDO forum they can post on together about how hard Elite is and whether Dream Visor needs an upgrade and how hirelings should be on attack all the time, but breaking up sucks, and it has nothing to do with his job as a forum Nazi.

When we say we say we hate you, we mean "ye who have to make yet another crafting system with yet more ingredients instead of fixing power attack ON hats OFF when we log in."  We don't hate you you, the guy who drinks a beer and rants about the Cubs or cash me outside or Pizzagate or- well, we hate that guy.  But not you.  We love you.  You're great.

Just stop fucking things up, and we'll love you in public too.



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I'm pretty fucking sure I am a special snowflake.


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Reply #54 - Mar 4th, 2017 at 11:54pm
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Ah Pook wrote on Mar 4th, 2017 at 11:20pm:
tl;dr - wand bracelets.


You make some good points here, I'll expand a little bit.

I spent a long time this past summer trying to work on generating new default player builds for the pure classes (28pt and 32 pt builds).

If you guys wanted to help, you could PM me a whole bunch of forum scrapes from Ron's character planner. I need complete sets from every class but barbarian (those I finished already). I'll have more details later and make a better formatted post in the builds subforum later. The tldr of that is I wrote a comprehensive script to turn forum exploits into game files.

More to the point, new build scrapes are an awful, nasty, horribly implemented wedge of unintuitive ass-first code. Old ones are retained, new ones are nearly impossible to test, etc.

I'll work on it for you guys. Seriously. You guys just gotta stop sending me anonymous hatemail to my reddit account, ok? Sad
  

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Sailias wrote on Mar 4th, 2017 at 5:25pm:
If any of the devs read these forums, that's awful, because these forums are pile of awful personal attacks. I know I had to stop coming here for a while when I worked there, it got to be too much for me. I tried my best to fix things and people here told me they hope my coworkers would kill themselves.

I have really thin skin, if I'm being honest. I dunno.

Hope you're having a good day.


You did great.  But they say that no good deed goes unpunished, and the dozen or so long standing issues you managed to trivially correct during the last 3 hours of your internship only pointed out to anyone who was watching exactly how lazy and uncaring the rest of the DDO devs are.  Nothing you fixed hadn't been bug reported or posted on the forums a dozen plus times before, and yet many of those issues had been in place for years.

And then you went all Stockholm syndrome on us and called these lazy fucks 'rockstars' and created a meme which lives on to this day as an ironic label.
  

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I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive.


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Digimonk wrote on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 1:58pm:
I will not chone.

I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect.


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Reply #56 - Mar 5th, 2017 at 11:02am
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Sailias wrote on Mar 4th, 2017 at 11:54pm:
You make some good points here, I'll expand a little bit.

I spent a long time this past summer trying to work on generating new default player builds for the pure classes (28pt and 32 pt builds).

If you guys wanted to help, you could PM me a whole bunch of forum scrapes from Ron's character planner. I need complete sets from every class but barbarian (those I finished already). I'll have more details later and make a better formatted post in the builds subforum later. The tldr of that is I wrote a comprehensive script to turn forum exploits into game files.

More to the point, new build scrapes are an awful, nasty, horribly implemented wedge of unintuitive ass-first code. Old ones are retained, new ones are nearly impossible to test, etc.

I'll work on it for you guys. Seriously. You guys just gotta stop sending me anonymous hatemail to my reddit account, ok? Sad


This is something that you are still involved in official development of? Or just a project to be posted publicly as a proposal?

The character planner output doesn't work on this forum, but since the paths are just alignment, ability scores, skills, feats, and spell selections it's pretty easy to relay as a build post. The main thing is a distinct theme for each path that is viable...probably best to plan on basing a path on each enhancement tree.
  

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Reply #57 - Mar 5th, 2017 at 12:26pm
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lostthenloved wrote on Mar 4th, 2017 at 3:19pm:
Anyway now that it has been confirmed here is the info i got a few weeks ago when i first posted about it.


1. each PL will not give the same bonus that stacks 3 time, instead they will give progressively better (supposedly better) separate effects.
2. will require a new Reincarnation at 20 with a new heart
3. after achieving 3 PL of a single race you will get 1 action point that can only be spent in racial trees, a total of 10 points at triple racial completionest.



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5 Foot Step wrote on Mar 5th, 2017 at 11:02am:
This is something that you are still involved in official development of? Or just a project to be posted publicly as a proposal?

The character planner output doesn't work on this forum, but since the paths are just alignment, ability scores, skills, feats, and spell selections it's pretty easy to relay as a build post. The main thing is a distinct theme for each path that is viable...probably best to plan on basing a path on each enhancement tree.


What I've written uses a text file with a forum post copied into it and turns it into a game file a dev can load in. The formatting it looks for uses the forum outputs of a post copied from Ron's planner.

If this were as simple as "use a build post and select things" I would have come in on a weekend and done it.

I'm trying to get it done so that if someone has some time they can just load the files in the right place.

5FS, I'll PM you about this later when I have more things together.
  

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Reply #59 - Mar 5th, 2017 at 1:25pm
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Who the hell is Sailias?

Do I need to delete my build posts?

Are there new exploits?

Who move my cheese?

What's reddit?
  
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No one gives a single solitary fuck about your builds.
  

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Reply #61 - Mar 5th, 2017 at 3:03pm
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Sailias wrote on Mar 5th, 2017 at 2:01pm:
No one gives a single solitary fuck about your builds.

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Sailias wrote on Mar 5th, 2017 at 2:01pm:
No one gives a single solitary fuck about your builds.


I'm sorry you're still trying to get popular. you will be soon don't worry, just keep picking on people here like this and all the 4chans will love you.

My build posts have 10,000's of views and replies, but my real dream is to fix tooltip text and be the best at it.
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harharharhar wrote on Mar 5th, 2017 at 4:46pm:
I'm sorry you're still trying to get popular. you will be soon don't worry, just keep picking on people here like this and all the 4chans will love you.

My build posts have 10,000's of views and replies, but my real dream is to fix tooltip text and be the best at it.


Don't brag too much about it. Someone less lazy than me might have the patience of looking that one thread where you got your ass handed to you about your uber throwing build that was put to shame by another guy whose name I can't remember. Oh yeah, it was the same thread where most of the vaulties mopped the floor with you.

10K replies = good builds (obvious  Cheesy)

  
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harharharhar wrote on Mar 5th, 2017 at 4:46pm:
I'm sorry you're still trying to get popular. you will be soon don't worry, just keep picking on people here like this and all the 4chans will love you.

My build posts have 10,000's of views and replies, but my real dream is to fix tooltip text and be the best at it.


You haven't done anything interesting in years.

Lately you've been trying to convince people that monkchers don't need abundant step in Reaper.
  

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Sailias wrote on Mar 5th, 2017 at 2:01pm:
No one gives a single solitary fuck about your builds.


Still contributing to quality of life I see.
  

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WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Mar 5th, 2017 at 6:56pm:
You haven't done anything interesting in years.

Lately you've been trying to convince people that monkchers don't need abundant step in Reaper.


Some monkchers do, the ones who don't manage their aggro or distance well, or who spend all their time gear swapping.
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Artorias wrote on Mar 5th, 2017 at 6:05pm:
Don't brag too much about it. Someone less lazy than me might have the patience of looking that one thread where you got your ass handed to you about your uber throwing build that was put to shame by another guy whose name I can't remember. Oh yeah, it was the same thread where most of the vaulties mopped the floor with you.

10K replies = good builds (obvious  Cheesy)



I have a more than one thread with 1000's of views and hundreds of replies about builds. Which is evidence enough that Sailias was wrong: many people, certainly more than zero, do give a solitary fuck (or more) about my builds. You don't have to be a fan to give a fuck. Sam-u-r-eye/Floppy can't get enough of my builds, because he wants to pretend he and his friends thought it up. W/E.

More to your point, I have a standing offer on Khyber to group with ANYONE, and show them how I play a thrower. I don't get as much playtime these days as I used to sadly, but I can still hold my own just fine. I suspect some of you are on Khyber, know who I am, and are perfectly aware that you can't beat me in a kill count or find me playing at a level that is not very high. So you keep hiding, and sniping away at me here on the Vault. Like Grand. Or worse, make up a story that you joined a group with me and I didn't rape face. Offering no evidence of course, very Trumpian.

That's ok. It's satisfaction enough to know that the shame of their inadequacies is what leads most people here to trashtalk.  I don't use socks, I don't hide behind fake accounts. Anyone who wants to see me put my money where my mouth is can find me if they want in game. Until then, I can't see you haters.
  
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harharharhar wrote on Mar 5th, 2017 at 4:46pm:
I'm sorry you're still trying to get popular. you will be soon don't worry, just keep picking on people here like this and all the 4chans will love you.

My build posts have 10,000's of views and replies, but my real dream is to fix tooltip text and be the best at it.

i have shits that have 10k+ views.
  
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Sailias wrote on Mar 4th, 2017 at 11:54pm:
I spent a long time this past summer trying to work on generating new default player builds for the pure classes (28pt and 32 pt builds).

If you guys wanted to help, you could PM me a whole bunch of forum scrapes from Ron's character planner. I need complete sets from every class but barbarian (those I finished already).


Let me save you a ton of time.  Stop spending time on the default builds.  Those suck, sure, and could use to be improved, yes.  But there is much lower hanging fruit.

Change some simple text.  This is what you do best, right?

Change the character class recommendations to better reflect reality.  Currently Cleric is listed as a "Very Good" solo class, and it just isn't.  Maybe it was 10 years ago, but it isn't now and the recommendations haven't changed over those 10 years. Sorcerer is listed as "Challenging," and they can lay waste to heroic dungeons even on a first life.  Warlock is listed as "Fair."

Bring all of the character class recommendations up to date and you'll have improved new player retention, something that Turbine and SSG seems to have forgotten exists, by 1000%.
  

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I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive.


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Digimonk wrote on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 1:58pm:
I will not chone.

I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect.


Smart people don't elicit "side effects."  They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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harharharhar wrote on Mar 5th, 2017 at 1:25pm:
Who the hell is Sailias?
Do I need to delete my build posts?

The funny thing is, you actually could delete your builds and it wouldn't be that big a deal for anyone with a basic understanding of shuricannons to recreate them on their own.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know a shuri build need lots of Dex, a minimum of 3 Monk, Advanced Ninja Training, Shuriken Expertise and a mix of the following classes in various amounts based on desired result:
Monk
Ranger
Rogue
Fighter

For as much hell as we gave Tilo about shitposting his build ideas everywhere, there are a couple of his builds I'm sad he deleted.  They were unique and different enough from the usual Capt. Obvious builds that they're not easy to recreate. 

Yours?  Not so much.


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Let me save you a ton of time.  Stop spending time on the default builds.  Those suck, sure, and could use to be improved, yes.  But there is much lower hanging fruit.

Change some simple text.  This is what you do best, right?

Change the character class recommendations to better reflect reality.  Currently Cleric is listed as a "Very Good" solo class, and it just isn't.  Maybe it was 10 years ago, but it isn't now and the recommendations haven't changed over those 10 years. Sorcerer is listed as "Challenging," and they can lay waste to heroic dungeons even on a first life.  Warlock is listed as "Fair."

Bring all of the character class recommendations up to date and you'll have improved new player retention, something that Turbine and SSG seems to have forgotten exists, by 1000%.


Two things. One - I don't currently work for SSG, and therefore can't actually touch the code. I pestered Jerry to let me make one joke on the mobos with my account, and that's done now. Sorry Sad

Two - see how easy it is to leave things behind? How easy it is to say "we'll just do the minimum" and leave the big stuff behind? It's so easy to just give up on the big challenges, to just change the text and be done. I don't want the builds sheet to be changed and leave that checkbox unchecked.
  

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harharharhar wrote on Mar 5th, 2017 at 9:09pm:
I have a more than one thread with 1000's of views and hundreds of replies about builds. Which is evidence enough that Sailias was wrong: many people, certainly more than zero, do give a solitary fuck (or more) about my builds. You don't have to be a fan to give a fuck. Sam-u-r-eye/Floppy can't get enough of my builds, because he wants to pretend he and his friends thought it up. W/E.

More to your point, I have a standing offer on Khyber to group with ANYONE, and show them how I play a thrower. I don't get as much playtime these days as I used to sadly, but I can still hold my own just fine. I suspect some of you are on Khyber, know who I am, and are perfectly aware that you can't beat me in a kill count or find me playing at a level that is not very high. So you keep hiding, and sniping away at me here on the Vault. Like Grand. Or worse, make up a story that you joined a group with me and I didn't rape face. Offering no evidence of course, very Trumpian.

That's ok. It's satisfaction enough to know that the shame of their inadequacies is what leads most people here to trashtalk.  I don't use socks, I don't hide behind fake accounts. Anyone who wants to see me put my money where my mouth is can find me if they want in game. Until then, I can't see you haters.

When you said something similar in a different thread,
I asked you to give me your name or pm me your khyber name. You didn't.
  
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