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Alpha Ex Member	It's no wonder Devs don't post Mar 29^th, 2017 at 11:28am	Print Post
	https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/484970-Is-Darkfire-just-fantastically-... Steelstar posted on the SSG forums: "Apologies to those upset by the change to Darkfire. It never should have shipped in the massively-overpowered form that went out with U35. Our goal with this ability is to provide a low-SP-cost, low-cooldown damage dealing SLA that is good for low but rapid and reliable damage. (We are well aware that it's relatively high in the race tree and has a fair cost of investment before reaching it.) To that goal, we may make further adjustments upward in the future. In addition, we are still looking into changes that would allow Drow (and Deep Gnome) Spell Resistance to stack with other sources, boosting the overall usefulness of the race." He goes out of his way to address and explain the changes to Darkfire after there were some complaints over night by disappointed players. A real post, taking into account how people feel and laying it out, Very classy. And what does he get in response? a growing number of whiny abusive posts by players more interested in insulting him. Is it any wonder SSG is doing the majority of their testing in house these days? how can we expect them to include us in the conversation if all we do is whine about things being OP and abusing them when they change it? This game community is only as good as we want it to be.


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WonderfulFoppyBint Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Poooop Posts: 5950 Location: stockholm victim of hag master Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	Re: It's no wonder Devs don't post Reply #1 - Mar 29^th, 2017 at 11:50am	Print Post
	your post was so cringey I laughed complaining about someone else's attitude is what you do when you're deflecting their criticism, ideas, and presence instead of accessing the logic of a statement you open up an issue with the other person's character---even if it is a "polite" opener, it is often a character attack How to be a dickhead 101 ~food for thought~ Most simple example: any political smear campaign that focuses on the other teams character, rather than ideas.
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Sailias Dragon Raider Offline Posts: 251 Joined: Nov 16^th, 2015	Re: It's no wonder Devs don't post Reply #2 - Mar 29^th, 2017 at 1:08pm	Print Post
	The DDO community is contentious because they are passionate. Feedback of all kinds is better than no feedback at all.

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Metal-Beast Abbot Raider Offline \m/ Posts: 767 Joined: Apr 13^th, 2014	Re: It's no wonder Devs don't post Reply #3 - Mar 29^th, 2017 at 1:11pm	Print Post
	Sailias wrote on Mar 29^th, 2017 at 1:08pm: The DDO community is contentious because they are passionate. Feedback of all kinds is better than no feedback at all. This.

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spathic Stocky Greenis Offline Taunting the stupid since before you were born. Posts: 1623 Location: Shenandoah valley Joined: Mar 2^nd, 2012 Gender:	Re: It's no wonder Devs don't post Reply #4 - Mar 29^th, 2017 at 2:16pm	Print Post
	Quote: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/484970-Is-Darkfire-just-fantastically-... Can you be more like a developer?

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Tspoon Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 396 Joined: Aug 30^th, 2013	Re: It's no wonder Devs don't post Reply #5 - Mar 29^th, 2017 at 3:23pm	Print Post
	Quote: This game community is only as good as we want it to be.� And the devs can be as shit as they want to be? Who was behind the wheel when Darkfire was boosted for U35? Someone had to come up with the stats, type it up, it got coded, text for the tool tip, and text for the release notes and no one realized that it was powerful? Ok fine, but then to nerf it into the ground and come to the forums saying "well maybe in the future we'll boost it up a bit" that's bullshit. If you took drow because darkfire worked in a good rotation for a particular build, that build is now fucked. As I posted on the forums, they could have done a more moderate nerf first and a second nerf as needed and not fuck over the people who took drow because they fucking made darkfire good. Steelstar can eat a bag of dicks


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raybob DQ Assaulter Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 452 Joined: Sep 15^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: It's no wonder Devs don't post Reply #6 - Mar 29^th, 2017 at 4:10pm	Print Post
	Quote: Is it any wonder SSG is doing the majority of their testing in house these days? They test?


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no. DQ Assaulter Offline Just no. Posts: 454 Joined: Oct 10^th, 2013	Re: It's no wonder Devs don't post Reply #7 - Mar 29^th, 2017 at 5:01pm	Print Post
	Tspoon wrote on Mar 29^th, 2017 at 3:23pm: And the devs can be as shit as they want to be?� Who was behind the wheel when Darkfire was boosted for U35?� Someone had to come up with the stats, type it up, it got coded, text for the tool tip, and text for the release notes and no one realized that it was powerful?� Ok fine, but then to nerf it into the ground and come to the forums saying "well maybe in the future we'll boost it up a bit" that's bullshit.� If you took drow because darkfire worked in a good rotation for a particular build, that build is now fucked.� As I posted on the forums, they could have done a more moderate nerf first and a second nerf as needed and not fuck over the people who took drow because they fucking made darkfire good.� Steelstar can eat a bag of dicks This. They got us to RTR into Drowning, then yanked the carpet out from under our feet. They knew. They passed it anyway. But other broken shit can stick around for months, if not years, on end.


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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: It's no wonder Devs don't post Reply #8 - Mar 29^th, 2017 at 5:39pm	Print Post
	Quote: It never should have shipped in the massively-overpowered form that went out with U35. Yet, it did. Answers any lingering doubts, in case you were still harboring a wild rebellious hope that SSG would be the slightest bit different from Turbine. Quote: This game community is only as good as we want it to be. Totes. And we want it to reflect how well the devs are doing. Quote: In addition, we are still looking into changes that would allow Drow (and Deep Gnome) Spell Resistance to stack with other sources, boosting the overall usefulness of the race." They nerfed Drow/Barb stacking?

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Technomage Epic Poster Offline And so it begins... Posts: 4444 Location: Tucson, AZ Joined: Aug 27^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: It's no wonder Devs don't post Reply #9 - Mar 29^th, 2017 at 6:33pm	Print Post
	Revaulting wrote on Mar 29^th, 2017 at 5:39pm: They nerfed Drow/Barb stacking? It may stack with Barb MR but it doesn't stack with MR on equipment.

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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: It's no wonder Devs don't post Reply #10 - Mar 29^th, 2017 at 6:53pm	Print Post
	Technomage wrote on Mar 29^th, 2017 at 6:33pm: It may stack with Barb MR but it doesn't stack with MR on equipment. Okay. Was just checking. Thought the devs might have actually looked & discovered it actually does stack with something. Then nerfed it into the ground just because. While they're at it, it would be stellar if they made Warlock & Monk SR into something other than window dressing, too. Or at least cleaned that shit up, so there's some logic or sense behind what stacks with what. But w/e. We know they can barely single-task. It's kinda insane to ask for multi-tasking. Especially with SR, which affects what, a few spells & Umber Gaze?

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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: It's no wonder Devs don't post Reply #11 - Mar 29^th, 2017 at 8:59pm	Print Post
	Revaulting wrote on Mar 29^th, 2017 at 6:53pm: few spells & Umber Gaze? anything that doesnt do damage. all cc spells. 99% of neg level spells. pw stun. death spells. stat drain spells.
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	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: It's no wonder Devs don't post Reply #12 - Mar 30^th, 2017 at 12:18am	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Mar 29^th, 2017 at 8:59pm: anything that doesnt do damage. all cc spells. 99% of neg level spells. pw stun. death spells. stat drain spells. All the spells that attack QoL. SR is turning out to be more important than I thought.

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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	Re: It's no wonder Devs don't post Reply #13 - Mar 30^th, 2017 at 5:02am	Print Post
	Quote: Is it any wonder SSG is doing the majority of their testing in house these days? how can we expect them to include us in the conversation if all [they do is throw stuff up on the "preview" server for 4-8 hours and then release it, reported bugs and all, page after page of feedback ignored]? I believe that you have summarized the situation quite succinctly, [].� Well done!

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