5 Foot Step wrote on May 30^th, 2019 at 6:44pm:


I'll worry about it when I get all of the raid named items in 20 years or so. In the meantime, shadowhail cloak is BiS. Roflmao.

Also, did you dps test Arc Ricochet? It's base damage is 1d2+2 as opposed to Spite with 1d2+3. Is it really bad?

Alex DeLarge wrote on May 31^st, 2019 at 1:13am:


Agreed.

Alex DeLarge wrote on May 31^st, 2019 at 1:13am:


I considered using it so I could swap Purifying quiver to Dynamistic to (partially) compensate for not finding a place for RP/DS on real gear.

But no, it's bad. It's also 2w less in addition to only being w+2, so it's like giving up 14 deadly. That's about 100 less damage per star at full (crit/rp) scaling. Loaded dice are OP.

Technomage wrote on Jul 5^th, 2019 at 6:15pm:

The buff used to carry over if you swapped back to shuri/bow. The ap was tight for me, so I had a macro of Equip Dagger -> Rapid Throw -> Equip Star -> hit stance. If you spent more ap into VKF then the uncentering never happens. Also beware that Rapid Throw has to connect, actual hit, to grant buff. And IPS used to make knives not hit anything, as in you never roll for the attack.

Currently I have no idea of the state of Rapid Throw or knives with IPS, as I was a thrower almost 2 years ago.

I was experimenting with a way to make it work, but eventually gave up and forgot to edit the build post.

Edited:

Your third point is probably better spent elsewhere. There seems to be a cap to throwing speed. There's not any obvious difference between my standing attack rate and boosted attack rate. I only use haste boost for the extra charges to activate Deadly Rain and Combat Brute vs trash.

So for this build Haste Boost 1/3 seems to be just as good as 2/3 or 3/3.

That being said, I could go Acrobatic 2/3 and Haste Boost 1/3, but really it's filler either way.

Also, I'm not sure whether Haste Boost's effect is actually zero or just a fraction of a percent, and I don't really have the time or patience to properly test it.

Anybody tried Echo of the Sunsword offhand? Seems like offhand aoe effects generally are unable to compete with Deception and Armor Piercing. OG throwers had Celestia offhand for the sunburst. Echo has a blind on it which makes it seem potentially attractive. Is brazen brilliance actually a different effect than sunburst or did they just randomly decide to retype the description on the tooltip?

"Wait, you reused an old effect and just named it something else?"
"Well, I haven't thought up a new name, but yeah."
"That's brazen. But brilliant."
"Hold up."

HelloKitty wrote on Jul 18^th, 2019 at 12:45am:

Never was a problem because I'm never in a party. 

5 Foot Step wrote on Jul 19^th, 2019 at 9:37am:

Pretty much this. 

I spent quite a bit of time running an Echo in offhand when RL was new.  It's ok, but the proc rate on Brilliance isn't high enough to make it better than a TF with DI + 35% AP.

And yes, blinding trash mobs in high skull reaper runs will make your group's melee hate you, particularly tank/intimi builds. 

In short, the two best options for a shuri build's offhand are a DI + AP Thunderforged weapon for DPS and a Rebellion for extra threat reduction on raids and high skull stuff.

If you want CC on a shuri, use LGS ice or salt shurikens, twist Stay Frosty, Whistler, Pin, etc.  If you're really desperate, you could run in Shiradi destiny for nerve venom but you take a big hit to DPS by doing so.

Technomage wrote on Jul 19^th, 2019 at 3:20pm:

yes

Technomage wrote on Jul 10^th, 2019 at 1:09pm:


This has been tested to death my Mr Cow, myself and others for years and it has never changed. There is 100% a cap to throwing speed, or at least, Haste Boost doesn't increase it over Whirling Wrists, high BaB, and Haste/BS, and requisite feats

Umm. Any and all of them. I save the damage boosts for max DPS situations, since they are still bugged and still do not regen with Reinvig. I spam haste and attack boosts for clearing trash. Attack boost is actually useful in its own right sometimes when you are getting grazes, but haste boost is just there to turn on Combat Brute and Deadly Rain, as mentioned above. I also take sprint boost from Falconry. I usually save those for zooming between fights (keep that blitz alive!) but will sometimes pop one off during a fight if they are at full capacity so I don't "waste" a potential regen if Reinvig procs when they are full.

What not to use: Thick Skinned and Unmovable. Even though they walk like an action boost and talk like an action boost, they neither activate CB & DR, nor do they regen with Reinvig.


Technomage wrote on Jul 29^th, 2019 at 1:23pm:


I expect LD is still going to be where it's at. I plan to test out Shadowdancer and Shiradi Champion when the ED pass roll out. SD was very strong on this build pre-ravenloft. It is still probably optimal in high fortification content where you don't have a party member stripping sneak attack immunity for you.

Technomage wrote on Jul 30^th, 2019 at 1:21pm:

Yes. You can hit a boost and check your inventory detail for the 1W. It might still be bugged where you have to take a step forward with your character first for it to show up there.

Technomage wrote on Jul 30^th, 2019 at 1:21pm:


More importantly, the helpless scaling also applies.