Hmm. I was wondering if they made more things immune to it.

Why is Draconic Reinvigoration not recharging my LD damage boost? It works fine on my other action boosts.

5 Foot Step wrote on Nov 20^th, 2018 at 10:46am:

Had the same problem but it didn't seem to be recharging the racial power boost on my toon. 

A guildie tested a Reinvigoration on their thrower and said it worked for them. 

I couldn't bring myself to care enough to test it further since I was fairly pissed at wasting the phlogs for something that seems to be broken so that's all I know about it.

Skip shurikens till 20 imo

If I was going to come back, and I've been gone since a couple months after Ravenloft came out. is 14/6 Shuri still viable? Or has something broken to change that?

Also any decent Wisdom based shuri builds yet? I figured with Mass Frog and Wisdom Assassinate from Falcon there might be a decent one by now doing a lot of instakilling

harharharhar wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2018 at 12:34am:



The t5 was killing orange names so Morkass (the guy posting r10 solos on the mobos) was using the bird tree to kill whisps in their r10 baba.

AFAIK that was the only build (in epics) that I ran into.

They fucked up the t5 a couple times now though... ....am not sure if its fixed yet. Someone else will have to chime in.

Come back dude!

So leveling these things is brutal.

The dpS is like 3rd tier. I’m pure monk lvl 18 at the moment. I was running vale 1 skulls. I do more damage with wraps and no stuns with NO twf feats. The only exception is during 10k Stars. I’m tier 5 ninja dex build throwing a GS lit2 shuri. Also have wis to hit and damage from falcon.

How and when does this change? I assume more DEx and double shot makes a big dif. But that’s incremental all the way up. What else am I missing besides that and gear and whirling wrists? Give me light at the end of the tunnel plox.

Head-Meat wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2018 at 1:32pm:


Are you in sneak attack range? Do you have Improved Deception slotted? I always favored Snowstar at that level. What elemental stance are you running? What's your dex? Other holes in your gear? Ravenloft gear is often BiS for 10-20. Is the problem not being able to do the content or just being outkilled by conelocks and newly buffed melees?

Anyway, just get to 20. EDs and filigrees will help.

I couldn’t do it.

I tried the thrower again. I did. I tried with SD destiny. I tried with LD destiny.

I LRed into melee wis dc monk. The dps I was getting was just not good enough. Period.


I’m guessing there are a few problems I have.

1. Gear. Mind you, I was only lvl 23. I was using GS thrower, or cormyrian (sp) or the ml 10 RL thrower. My dmg was lame.

2. Skill. I am probably weaker at maintaining helpless. For example, I forget to blind mobs with falcon a lot.

3. I was only 23.



BUT, I swap over to melee monk, and my dps, kills, and fun increased immediately. That’s all I can tell you. No doubt I would have gotten better with gear and levels as a thrower, but I will as a melee too!

Meanwhile, I have cc and instakills now that are better imo. AND my base dps is better.

I’m sure it’s me, but I can’t handle the thrower at this time. Maybe I’ll gear up, and etr later and try again.

bob the builder wrote on Nov 26^th, 2018 at 12:36pm:



This is probably what I SHOULD have done.

harharharhar wrote on Nov 26^th, 2018 at 4:54pm:



I mean.. I wasn't MAXING sneak from gear. I was using backstab gloves, deception and imp deception. Plus I had deception on my offhand kama. Not sure that helps.. All the ninja ENH, AND I ran in SD. I saw sneak damage on mobs and the ship dummy, etc.

The main problem for me was the rate of fire. Even hasted with whirling wrists twisted, it was just meh. 10k was good damage but not amazing. In LD with a full blitz, 10k, and haste boost, the damage was above average, but it still wasn't amazing.

Then I switch to melee monk and magically my base dps is probably just as good as my best 10k stars dmg.

So, if I'm missing something, please share. My dex wasn't amazing. But, I have a 4 or 5 tome, completionist, I took all the enhs, full levels, ship, I think a 7 dex item and and a 3 exceptional at that level. So, I mean, I know it would get a lot higher later, but I should have seen something decent, right?

Ki regen? I had all three (ocean stance, contemplation from HM, and the twist from GMOF). I switched to wind stance at times when I didn't need more ki. It wasn't a lot better than ocean + haste.

What else obvious might I be missing? Maybe it's something super obvious. I was spamming falcon attacks pretty regularly. But, I forgot the mass blind one at times.

I definitely utilized IPS as much as practical. I mean, I'm sure I could have been more optimal with it. But, I definitely was trying regularly to hit multiple mobs, lining them up and kiting backward to hit the whole line, etc.

It seemed like it was mainly a rate of fire issue for me or maybe a crappy thrower? I used Lit II, Ash II, Some sonic cormyrian one, and the ML 10 one from Ravenloft which is pretty good. 

Digimonk wrote on Nov 26^th, 2018 at 7:32pm:


I played for a long time with Reaper. Shuri attack speed with level drains and Sov Vorp was a joke in reaper