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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Fire Domain Cleric - Heroic/Racial Zerger Oct 18^th, 2017 at 7:28pm	Print Post
	Sor 5 20 Cleric Neutral Any Race Stats: 16 Con 14 Int 18 Wis (+ levels) Feats: 1 Maximize 1 Follower of Olladra 2 Fire Domain 3 Empower 5 Scorching Ray SLA 6 Past Life Wizard 9 Quicken Spell 9 Wall of Fire SLA 12 Enlarge Spell 14 Firestorm SLA 15 Heighten Spell 18 Spell Focus Evocation Enhancements: Divine Disciple: 42 AP Cores 6/6 (Light, Sunbolt, Sunbeam, Sunburst) Spellpower Light 3/3 Spell Critical Light (2 pts) Spellpower Universal 3/3 Spell Critical Light (2 pts) Searing Light SLA 3/3 Spellpower Light 3/3 Spell Critical Light (2 pts) Wis +1 Holy Smite SLA 3/3 Spell Critical Light (2 pts) Evocation DC (2 pts) Wis +1 Flame Strike SLA 3/3 Evocation DC (2 pts) Divine Empowerment (2 pts) Warpriest: 13 AP Cores 3/6 Toughness 3/3 Righteous Weapons (2 pts) Wall of Steel 3/3 Wis +1 25 AP left, you can go deep in harper, or racial, or get spell pen and meta reducers in DD, or get spellpower and blur and haste in WP. Spells: 9th: Mass Heal Energy Drain Implosion True Rez Summon Monster 9 8th: Mass Cure Crit Mass Death Ward Symbol of Death Sun Burst Holy Aura Firestorm (swap in Power Word Stun at 20) 7th: Mass Cure Serious Symbol of Stunning Destruction Mass Spell Resistance Mass� Protection from Elements Greater Restoration (swap in Word of Balance at 20) 6th: Mass Cure Moderate Heal Symbol of Persuasion Blade Barrier Undeath to Death Sunbeam (Swap in Necrotic Ray at 20) 5th: Mass Cure Light Greater Command True Seeing Divine Punishment Slay Living Flame Strike 4th: Cure Critical Chaos Hammer Freedom of Movement Mass Shield of Faith Order's Wrath Holy Smite (Swap in Enervation at 20) 3rd: Cure Serious Mass Aid Contagion Searing Light Sun Bolt Bestow Curse 2nd: Cure Moderate Hold Person Resist Energy Sound Burst Deific Vengeance Lesser Restoration 1st: Cure Light Protection From Evil Bless Nightshield Command Remove Fear The build is not intended for endgame, but if you are going epic anyway... Feats: 21 Wellspring of Power 24 Intensify Spell 26 Epic Spellpower 27 Ruin 28 Hellball 29 Arcane Pulse 30 Greater Ruin 30 Scion of Celestia Destiny: Exalted Angel Radiant Power 3/3 Wis +1 Soundburst 3/3 Wis +1 Piercing Spellcraft 3/3 Blood and Radiance 3/3 Excoriate (2 pts) Leap of Faith (2 pts) Reborn in Light (2 pts) Divine Wrath (2 pts) Twists: 4 Energy Burst 3 Empyrean Magic 2 Evocation Specialist 1 Interrogation
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harharharhar Epic Poster Offline Girthless Trolllicker Posts: 3421 Joined: Aug 31^st, 2012 Gender:	Re: Fire Domain Cleric - Heroic/Racial Zerger Reply #1 - Oct 18^th, 2017 at 8:27pm	Print Post
	finally


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Nova Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 23 Joined: Oct 16^th, 2017	Re: Fire Domain Cleric - Heroic/Racial Zerger Reply #2 - Oct 19^th, 2017 at 6:58am	Print Post
	that's pretty darn solid. out of curiosity I know this is clearly not a cleric V fvs thread but is the only real point to fvs now if you plan on ditching DC's and want a higher sp pool? (though I admit I have a fvs 13ish sorc 7 ish shiradi that still plays fine) but with domains (and DD synergizing with fire so well) cleric just seems like such a solid divine caster.


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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Fire Domain Cleric - Heroic/Racial Zerger Reply #3 - Oct 19^th, 2017 at 10:31am	Print Post
	I'm considering fitting in Heighten Spell. Definitely take that if you don't have Completionist or you go Human. I'm also rethinking Aureon. The boost is the nicest boost for spellcasting but it doesn't have much uptime, so you have to weigh if it is worth it to tie up both hand slots for a staff to get the extra spellpower from WP when you could use a sickle and offhand a shield or caster stick with Olladra, getting the full heal + d6 wis boost. Nova wrote on Oct 19^th, 2017 at 6:58am: out of curiosity I know this is clearly not a cleric V fvs thread but is the only real point to fvs now if you plan on ditching DC's and want a higher sp pool? (though I admit I have a fvs 13ish sorc 7 ish shiradi that still plays fine) but with domains (and DD synergizing with fire so well) cleric just seems like such a solid divine caster. FvS definitely needs more work to compete, like you said all they have going for them now is a huge SP pool, but I don't really consider that something worth building for. They need their 3rd tree, they need the other two revamped, they need sorc speed casting, they need more spells known.

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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Fire Domain Cleric - Heroic/Racial Zerger Reply #4 - Oct 19^th, 2017 at 10:57am	Print Post
	Spells: 9th: Mass Heal Energy Drain Implosion True Rez Summon Monster 9 8th: Mass Cure Crit Mass Death Ward Symbol of Death Sun Burst Holy Aura Firestorm (swap in Power Word Stun at 20) 7th: Mass Cure Serious Symbol of Stunning Destruction Mass Spell Resistance Mass� Protection from Elements Greater Restoration (swap in Word of Balance at 20) 6th: Mass Cure Moderate Heal Symbol of Persuasion Blade Barrier Undeath to Death Sunbeam (Swap in Necrotic Ray at 20) 5th: Mass Cure Light Greater Command True Seeing Divine Punishment Slay Living Flame Strike 4th: Cure Critical Chaos Hammer Freedom of Movement Mass Shield of Faith Order's Wrath Holy Smite (Swap in Enervation at 20) 3rd: Cure Serious Mass Aid Contagion Searing Light Sun Bolt Bestow Curse 2nd: Cure Moderate Hold Person Resist Energy Sound Burst Deific Vengeance Lesser Restoration 1st: Cure Light Protection From Evil Bless Nightshield Command Remove Fear
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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9959 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Fire Domain Cleric - Heroic/Racial Zerger Reply #5 - Oct 19^th, 2017 at 12:13pm	Print Post
	oh, I'm going to try that one with one of my cleric, it looks fun.

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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Fire Domain Cleric - Heroic/Racial Zerger Reply #6 - Oct 19^th, 2017 at 12:46pm	Print Post
	Nova wrote on Oct 19^th, 2017 at 6:58am: that's pretty darn solid. out of curiosity I know this is clearly not a cleric V fvs thread but is the only real point to fvs now if you plan on ditching DC's and want a higher sp pool? (though I admit I have a fvs 13ish sorc 7 ish shiradi that still plays fine) but with domains (and DD synergizing with fire so well) cleric just seems like such a solid divine caster. FvS can't hang with any casting based cleric. The DC's are not there, nor is the spell power nor is the SLA's. They get killed in every possible casting build. The only place they have right now is multi class builds that play on the wis/cha to hit and damage or the new divine might variant that brings in cha and wis for melee damage.


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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Fire Domain Cleric - Heroic/Racial Zerger Reply #7 - Oct 19^th, 2017 at 12:55pm	Print Post
	Gonna see a lot of 1 FvS splashed monks now. Quote: Divine Will: Adds one half of Wisdom modifier to melee damage and tactical DC's

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Wipe VoD Slasher Offline Posts: 1917 Joined: Mar 26^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Fire Domain Cleric - Heroic/Racial Zerger Reply #8 - Oct 19^th, 2017 at 1:33pm	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Oct 19^th, 2017 at 12:46pm: FvS can't hang with any casting based cleric. Nonsense. The DC or spellpower difference is marginal� - even now with shitty domains. Hard to judge though, there's been like 5 people over the years playing non shitty divine caster lol. As for the build, another "noone ever plays that" category.
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Nova Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 23 Joined: Oct 16^th, 2017	Re: Fire Domain Cleric - Heroic/Racial Zerger Reply #9 - Oct 19^th, 2017 at 4:51pm	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 7:28pm: Sor 5 -snip- this actually has me inspired enough to take it into epics suppose it would do fine? and would you go EA or DC as main desinty?


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Carpone Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1695 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Fire Domain Cleric - Heroic/Racial Zerger Reply #10 - Oct 19^th, 2017 at 5:32pm	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Oct 19^th, 2017 at 12:55pm: Gonna see a lot of 1 FvS splashed monks now. Perhaps. The 25 melee power with the Shintao capstone, and negating Meditation of War penalties is pretty damned sexy.


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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Fire Domain Cleric - Heroic/Racial Zerger Reply #11 - Oct 19^th, 2017 at 6:10pm	Print Post
	Nova wrote on Oct 19^th, 2017 at 4:51pm: this actually has me inspired enough to take it into epics suppose it would do fine? and would you go EA or DC as main desinty? Well, your spell damage becomes flat while mob HP seems to go up exponentially. Killing anything with damage in high epics quickly turns into a slog. I don't think you'd get kicked out of groups, but don't expect to solo reaper (or at least not efficiently or enjoyably.) You'd be more of a support/CC role. I didn't include an epic progression because I didn't want to recommend it as an endgame build. But while it may not pull it's weight in the hardest content, if you keep with the spirit of the build and simply zerg for xp (EN dailies and such) it will be awesome. Feats: 21 Wellspring of Power 24 Intensify Spell 26 Epic Spellpower 27 Ruin 28 Hellball 29 Arcane Pulse 30 Greater Ruin 30 Scion of Celestia Destiny: Exalted Angel Radiant Power 3/3 Wis +1 Soundburst 3/3 Wis +1 Piercing Spellcraft 3/3 Blood and Radiance 3/3 Excoriate (2 pts) Leap of Faith (2 pts) Reborn in Light (2 pts) Divine Wrath (2 pts) Twists: 4 Energy Burst 3 Empyrean Magic 2 Evocation Specialist 1 Interrogation

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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Fire Domain Cleric - Heroic/Racial Zerger Reply #12 - Oct 19^th, 2017 at 6:40pm	Print Post
	Updated OP.

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SirValentine Korthos Resident Offline Never. Posts: 89 Joined: Jan 11^th, 2014	Re: Fire Domain Cleric - Heroic/Racial Zerger Reply #13 - Oct 20^th, 2017 at 6:35am	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Oct 19^th, 2017 at 10:31am: I'm also rethinking Aureon. The boost is the nicest boost for spellcasting but it doesn't have much uptime, so you have to weigh if it is worth it to tie up both hand slots for a staff to get the extra spellpower from WP when you could use a sickle and offhand a shield or caster stick with Olladra, getting the full heal + d6 wis boost. Or just go Aureon without using a staff? What's wrong with Aureon + 2 caster sticks (or stick & shield, as you prefer)? The Olladra d6 has the same uptime as the flat +4 from Aureon, and the +3 Spell Pen isn't useless since they did whatever to Spell Resistance in Reaper. Even the Turn portion is good in Heroic.


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Nova Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 23 Joined: Oct 16^th, 2017	Re: Fire Domain Cleric - Heroic/Racial Zerger Reply #14 - Oct 20^th, 2017 at 12:29pm	Print Post
	I went with sovereign host because that "do over" clicky can really come in handy. . .or was that dumb because of something I don't know about?


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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Fire Domain Cleric - Heroic/Racial Zerger Reply #15 - Oct 23^rd, 2017 at 1:24pm	Print Post
	SirValentine wrote on Oct 20^th, 2017 at 6:35am: Or just go Aureon without using a staff?� What's wrong with Aureon + 2 caster sticks (or stick & shield, as you prefer)? The Olladra d6 has the same uptime as the flat +4 from Aureon, and the +3 Spell Pen isn't useless since they did whatever to Spell Resistance in Reaper.� Even the Turn portion is good in Heroic. You want to use your favored weapon to get spell power from the + enhancement bonus abilities in WP. Not a big deal in the grand scheme of things, just min-maxy stuff. Nova wrote on Oct 20^th, 2017 at 12:29pm: I went with sovereign host because that "do over" clicky can really come in handy. . .or was that dumb because of something I don't know about? Olladra's clicky full heals you as well, and gives a d6 buff to each stat.

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Jeten Korthos Resident Offline There are no men like me. Only me. Posts: 12 Location: Bahrain Joined: Oct 20^th, 2017 Gender:	Re: Fire Domain Cleric - Heroic/Racial Zerger Reply #16 - Oct 30^th, 2017 at 1:36am	Print Post
	Just rolled this as an iconic sun elf. Fun as hell to play as I make the fires of heaven and tears of the sun rain down ceaselessly. Thanks for your work on this build, I like playing a non-healer cleric.


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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Fire Domain Cleric - Heroic/Racial Zerger Reply #17 - Oct 30^th, 2017 at 6:50pm	Print Post
	Wipe wrote on Oct 19^th, 2017 at 1:33pm: Nonsense. The DC or spellpower difference is marginal� - even now with shitty domains. Hard to judge though, there's been like 5 people over the years playing non shitty divine caster lol. As for the build, another "noone ever plays that" category. +6 necro dc Vs and FVs and a destruction sla is marginal on an insta kill build? I disagree.


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Friendship Korthos Resident Offline Love me! Please? Posts: 61 Joined: Aug 15^th, 2016	Re: Fire Domain Cleric - Heroic/Racial Zerger Reply #18 - Dec 12^th, 2017 at 11:44am	Print Post
	Out of curiosity, would this work for Earth domain? I could see Earthquake doing nicely for some CC in reaper.


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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Fire Domain Cleric - Heroic/Racial Zerger Reply #19 - Dec 18^th, 2017 at 11:50am	Print Post
	It doesn't have all of the synergy going for it, but I'm sure it works. You turn into more of a support role than a zerger though.

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Friendship Korthos Resident Offline Love me! Please? Posts: 61 Joined: Aug 15^th, 2016	Re: Fire Domain Cleric - Heroic/Racial Zerger Reply #20 - Dec 18^th, 2017 at 1:46pm	Print Post
	Thanks. The main reason I asked is that I recently ran fiend pack warlock and I found the fire immunity to be very frustrating, and was hence concerned here. Maybe with the light spells it's less of an issue than I think. Earth domain also has the same light/element synergy.


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Lelouch Shroud Slacker Offline What is a moron? A person playing ddo Posts: 1073 Joined: Apr 19^th, 2014	Re: Fire Domain Cleric - Heroic/Racial Zerger Reply #21 - Jun 10^th, 2018 at 6:18pm	Print Post
	Wall of fire sla is literally useless. scorchin ray is neat but not as spammableand strong as a fire sorcs, not even remotely close at level. But it gives something to do during soundburst spams and heals. We play on reaper 4, sometimes 5 and specific quests 6 and 7 and since i just came back from the game im terrible at it (not like i used to be good). Thing is, i end up playing this build exactlt as a light spellpower nuker, only benefit i see from fire domain is to slot in ravenloft belt for slightly more light spp. Cd wise id say a air domain cleric would be better for heroics. (maybe my mind will change once i see firestorm as sla but so far im unimpressed). its a ok build tho, not something amazing ( i prolly lack current knowledge of gear ploits and bugs to maximize it )
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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	Re: Fire Domain Cleric - Heroic/Racial Zerger Reply #22 - Jun 11^th, 2018 at 5:44pm	Print Post
	Well since this saw new life yesterday... 5 Foot Step wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 7:28pm: Sor 5 20 Cleric Is this a Sorc 5, or a 20 Cleric?� I know, I know, but don't blame me for your stupid names. SirValentine wrote on Oct 20^th, 2017 at 6:35am: The Olladra d6 has the same uptime as the flat +4 from Aureon, and the +3 Spell Pen isn't useless since they did whatever to Spell Resistance in Reaper.� Even the Turn portion is good in Heroic. 5 Foot Step wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2017 at 1:24pm: Olladra's clicky full heals you as well, and gives a d6 buff to each stat. Yes, a 10 minute cool-down for a possible +3 to some stat is worth building around.� (That's sarcasm, son!) Friendship wrote on Dec 18^th, 2017 at 1:46pm: Thanks. The main reason I asked is that I recently ran fiend pack warlock and I found the fire immunity to be very frustrating, and was hence concerned here. Maybe with the light spells it's less of an issue than I think. Earth domain also has the same light/element synergy. Fire spells is a tiny weakness compared to the benefits.� For your Warlock you got hurl and consume and 2x fingers.� For your cleric you got frog and implosion and various death spells.� Trading DPS for instant kills is rarely a fail in this game unless you can't build for it.� So you turn off the pact damage against iron golems and just ignore the fire immune mobs otherwise, while laying out the instant kills regardless of any fire immunities.� Complaints? Yeah, you will run into death warded champs, but very few of them are also fire immune. Bottom line:� It's not a horrible build.� And you also have strong buffs and really great heals.� So why not?

	No, let me be Frank. Digimonk wrote on Dec 8^th, 2016 at 12:39pm: I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive. Smart players know how to use buyback. Digimonk wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:58pm: I will not chone. I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect. Smart people don't elicit "side effects."� They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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WonderfulFoppyBint Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Poooop Posts: 5947 Location: stockholm victim of hag master Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	Re: Fire Domain Cleric - Heroic/Racial Zerger Reply #23 - Jun 11^th, 2018 at 9:17pm	Print Post
	@Lel Nukers fall off pretty hard in heroic reapers. I'd say you're gonna be comfy on r3 max. You'd be better off with the charms from that one domain imo... Make sure to pick up symbol of persuasion asap. Gl mate. Its not you or the build, its the setting.
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Lelouch Shroud Slacker Offline What is a moron? A person playing ddo Posts: 1073 Joined: Apr 19^th, 2014	Re: Fire Domain Cleric - Heroic/Racial Zerger Reply #24 - Jun 12^th, 2018 at 7:42pm	Print Post
	WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Jun 11^th, 2018 at 9:17pm: @Lel Nukers fall off pretty hard in heroic reapers. I'd say you're gonna be comfy on r3 max. You'd be better off with the charms from that one domain imo... Make sure to pick up symbol of persuasion asap. Gl mate. Its not you or the build, its the setting. Gotta try that. Seems more useful then what im doing now, spaming s burst slas and drinking pot after pot.. (sigh)


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