Good build. It's like the prowess monks, very boosts hungry. Same as the fusilade builds as well which are boost dependant. You could also do the same with fusilade builds as it is an action boost for prowess. mech tier 5, be tier 4, henshin core 3, knife fighter for weapon versatility and using great xbow. They should be coming in at around low 20s on red named kobold tests. In LD and that is impressive considering it's a xbow build. Use rapid shot before you 10k for the extra 20 dshot. Even easier on the fusilade builds as it doesnt require getting back into stance.

The monk builds with prowess should also be using rapid attack at the cost of 3 ap from henshin. Symb and marty are spending 14 ap in hen and should just drop it to 11 and get that 20 dstrike. I tried explaining this to marty, but something seemed lost in translation. my diplomacy skills are probably lacking.

Sergod wrote on Dec 26^th, 2017 at 10:24am:

hah. havent logged in on discord since your invite. will do, my bad.

you need a dagger. it uncenters you. but macro dagger/rapid/wraps/stance. 2 seconds to complete, so is 8 seconds of 20 dstrike every 10 seconds. they could try quick strike in henshin, but im not sure that buff stays and works without having qstaff always on. i know it wont work in wolf/tree form. rapid attack does, though. for now, at least ;p

10K+rapid throw use is tricky. you have to rapid throw before 10k. only. used this way it does not put 10k on cooldown. same macro as above, but use throwing dagger. do not rapid throw while 10k is on. it will delete the 10k buff off your buff bar. rapid throw+ manyshot can be used in any which way you like. it does not delete the buff and does not put it on cooldown.

JK_Seren wrote on Dec 26^th, 2017 at 6:42pm:


its working.

upated for more dps

the pure monk sergod has is better dps than the standard shuris. sustained through ld and attack/mp boosts so it doesnt really need to shrine to abuse prowess set. i would tr into it, but im too lazy, so...

harharharhar wrote on Dec 28^th, 2017 at 1:37pm:


Pure beats the multiclasses for DPS. There's several sources of crit range and multiplier on pure, and these are king at these base damage and MP levels, and scale retardedly well. Pure monk does range, and multiplier, best. There's a lot of synergies currently that pure monk takes the most advantage of. It also gets all of the 10k double shots. The run speed and abundant step  are also beyond clutch. I looked at all the different builds and pure is king. Y'all can play your 8/6/6 builds. They're cute. I'll continue to crush them in DPS

Sergod wrote on Dec 28^th, 2017 at 4:28pm:


this build is based on theorycrafting and ideas from at least 5 different people with published shuri builds in this forum for the last 3 months or so that release notes have been available (Rubbins, Ulysses, 5 Foot, Digimonk, myself). If I'm not mistaken, last month you came in here looking for a pure build because you didn't know how to Shuri.

Sergod wrote on Dec 1^st, 2017 at 10:56am:


Sergod wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2017 at 11:10am:


You are very welcome, enjoy the build (while it lasts, nerfage is inevitable in the Vistani clickies at least, maybe other areas as well like MP vs RP using a shuriken). If there's anything the devs have basically confirmed recently, it's that they have it out for throwers (even though they don't actually even know how to nerf things very well).

harharharhar wrote on Dec 28^th, 2017 at 5:04pm:


Cool story bro. Some of us are able to learn things in this game, and adapt to them quickly. Sorry that it takes you months to do what takes me weeks. Being a retard is hard, huh? I play this game, not theory craft.

harharharhar wrote on Dec 28^th, 2017 at 5:04pm:


harharharhar wrote on Dec 28^th, 2017 at 7:49pm:


You still going on about how you think you invented Shuricannons? An Ola was doing that shit while you were still a contemplation in your daddies mind. Ass?, Mouth?, Down the crack to become a browned stain upon the bedsheets? Alas, he chose to pull out a second too late. Stop feeding us "your" repurposed build, that you never seem to adjust to fit the times. Still running around thinking "your" Fury Stars are the best dps a Shuri can attain.

Vendui wrote on Dec 28^th, 2017 at 8:31pm:


nope, I think this build is really really strong, I already said that. One of the first comments in the thread actually.

But previous to now LD shuri builds were quite a bit lower DPS, but obviously this has changed with nerfs and also now the ability to abuse Melee Power and the new set. Except for very long quests, which aren't really even meta right now from what I can tell, the burst of a fury build + manyshot is still probably a better build for getting things done. Everything that is bringing up this pure 20 build in LD is also buffing Fury builds (more doubleshot sources, MP to missile damage, +75 MP boost from set, Henshin core MP, Vistani, etc).

Like the difference between 8/6/6 and 14/6 favoring the higher doubleshot of the 14/6 due to 10k pre-u37, the build that can get the most doubleshot is likely going to be the winner (and/or significantly higher dex up to 100). That, and the fact that pure monk can get 1 more crit threat, up to 5 SA dice, 30-60% more doubleshot during 10k. Of course, the lack of any active attacks also means no option to take Fury when appropriate versus an easy switch between LD and Fury as needed with a split build. Also, the doubleshot may now be eclipsed in the damage equation by base damage and MP, given Dex is so high and there's no consideration for regen'ing Adrenalines (which skew the damage quickly) when you run in LD.

I'm working on an updated DPS spreadsheet for 8/6/6, 14/6, 12/8, and pure 20 right now. Obviously calcs in a spreadsheet are only as good as averages, but they're a start. 5 Foot comes up with these calcs way faster than I do I should just rip his off but I"m trying something new anyway.

I don't have any real dog in the fight at this point, I'm not even playing. If pure 20 is clearly superior up against updated versions of the multiclasses, so be it. Lord knows Turbine has been trying to push pure Monks up for a while, they haven't nerfed them like they have AA for splits. If anything, they're all probably more or less equal at this point, if not a slight advantage toward being pure in LD simply due to the lack of burst damage and favoring not having active attacks in exchange for doubleshot during 10k.

Sergod wrote on Dec 28^th, 2017 at 11:36pm:


You're a super cool guy with lots of super cool friends I bet.

So 8m/6f/6r doesn't look like too good in a match up in LD
12/8 looks a bit more even, probably is not far behind in DPS even in LD. Based on AB usage, might pull ahead in longer quests. Also the 30% doubleshot loss from Monk levels is almost made up by the 11 Dex gained from power surge and helf Dex boost. 
14/6 like 12/8 looks decently matched, but has abundant step.


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Also none of these builds take sting of the ninja or count the vorpal from Ninja Spy, but those are sort of whatever. I standby my earlier assumption that pure 20 Monk as you have laid out in this build is better in LD than the multi splits if you don't think the active attacks and increased SA damage uptime is valuable, or extra AB will be make a difference.

I discount crit threat and multi a bit in LD builds because for one thing so much damage is from Damage procs and SA combined with the fact that active attacks also increase crit profile and SA damage on the other builds when used regularly. Also, all splits can use Manyshot 

I think your pure build compares extremely favorably to any other thrower build in LD.

harharharhar wrote on Dec 29^th, 2017 at 12:36am:


"so much damage is from procs" uh wut? majority of damage is from base damage, except in a raid boss burn environment, and there id still say 1/3-1/2 is base damage. Dude you are completely clueless to this game, as you don't actually play it. Your theory crafting is cool and all, but don't speak it as gospel when you don't play, and don't act like its some super special thing that takes months of math, and only a select few can do it. I've been building top characters, and playing this game at a level that you cant since before you were a froob kid. Go play some more Destiny now.

Also in regards to active attacks.. They are once a second. What about all the other attacks that aren't getting crit profile/multiplier now? If you discount crit profile and multiplier, then you truly have no clue as to how to play this game.