Vendui wrote on Dec 28
th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
You still going on about how you think you invented Shuricannons? An Ola was doing that shit while you were still a contemplation in your daddies mind. Ass?, Mouth?, Down the crack to become a browned stain upon the bedsheets? Alas, he chose to pull out a second too late. Stop feeding us "your" repurposed build, that you never seem to adjust to fit the times. Still running around thinking "your" Fury Stars are the best dps a Shuri can attain.
nope, I think this build is really really strong, I already said that. One of the first comments in the thread actually.
But previous to now LD shuri builds were quite a bit lower DPS, but obviously this has changed with nerfs and also now the ability to abuse Melee Power and the new set. Except for very long quests, which aren't really even meta right now from what I can tell, the burst of a fury build + manyshot is still probably a better build for getting things done. Everything that is bringing up this pure 20 build in LD is also buffing Fury builds (more doubleshot sources, MP to missile damage, +75 MP boost from set, Henshin core MP, Vistani, etc).
Like the difference between 8/6/6 and 14/6 favoring the higher doubleshot of the 14/6 due to 10k pre-u37, the build that can get the most doubleshot is likely going to be the winner (and/or significantly higher dex up to 100). That, and the fact that pure monk can get 1 more crit threat, up to 5 SA dice, 30-60% more doubleshot during 10k. Of course, the lack of any active attacks also means no option to take Fury when appropriate versus an easy switch between LD and Fury as needed with a split build. Also, the doubleshot may now be eclipsed in the damage equation by base damage and MP, given Dex is so high and there's no consideration for regen'ing Adrenalines (which skew the damage quickly) when you run in LD.
I'm working on an updated DPS spreadsheet for 8/6/6, 14/6, 12/8, and pure 20 right now. Obviously calcs in a spreadsheet are only as good as averages, but they're a start. 5 Foot comes up with these calcs way faster than I do I should just rip his off but I"m trying something new anyway.
I don't have any real dog in the fight at this point, I'm not even playing. If pure 20 is clearly superior up against updated versions of the multiclasses, so be it. Lord knows Turbine has been trying to push pure Monks up for a while, they haven't nerfed them like they have AA for splits. If anything, they're all probably more or less equal at this point, if not a slight advantage toward being pure in LD simply due to the lack of burst damage and favoring not having active attacks in exchange for doubleshot during 10k.