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Re: Zergalicious - Pure 20 Monk LD VKF Thrower DPS
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Have to spoon feed these fucks. Jesus.
Wait wait wait. You're saying Ravenloft raid gear is gud? Heresy!
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set bug being Silent Avenger? Or there was a bug with TOEE set?
ability to wear SA set and TOEE set previously with cosmetics.
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ability to wear SA set and TOEE set previously with cosmetics.
jesus fucking christ how long could you do that for? Was the SA set you could get on a cosmetic or the TOEE set?
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SA for the +2 profane
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and the +1 w daggers
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Anyone figure out a formula for the proc on Echo of the Sunsword yet?
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Anyone figure out a formula for the proc on Echo of the Sunsword yet?
The damage part or the proc rate?
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The damage part or the proc rate?
Both preferably, so I can add the exact average damage added per attack to my DPS tables.
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What is the to-hit number you are getting with this setup? And dex? I am finding myself in problems with to-hit.
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was thinking either drop the trinket to craft a con15/acc23/insight acc11. Dump LGS bracers to use fallen hero, maintainning the set.
I'm trying to figure out why do you recommend people to farm 4k codex runes for an item that is giving roughly 120 hp if you sit at 2k, when slotting the bracers with insight con9 would give 106-142 hp and 12 PRR. I must really be missing something very bad?!?
By doing this you gain 34 to-hit, 2 con (15+9 over 20+2), loose eternal holy burst and improved deception. Net loss of 60 HP if you sit at 2k with 3 shroud pieces. Loose the stuff from trinket, but then don't have to grind for the trinket, and get 12 PRR.
OR
slaver bracers
false life 68 /acc28 /tendon slice14 /quality PRR 11 (or con4)
You actually gain 13 HP by doing that if you put con in the slavers, but loose 57 if you put PRR, wich is probably better. So gain 28 to-hit with this.
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Dump the Pinnacle for Ring of Prowess. By using the Fallen Hero bracers instead of shroud, you get hp back so basically hp is about the same. You get 13 PRR, 28 to-hit, but loose 2 deadly. But you gain 8 melee power, unless this melee power from ring of prowess is not stacking with something?
In any case, that's 4k codex runes saving, for a meaningless HP loss or even a gain.
For me the first choice is a given, because I don't feel like grinding for the echo, and this build already needs a lot of baba stuff. So unless if I drop it that's what I'm going to use. 34 points of ho-hit is going to solve my issues.
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5 Foot Step wrote
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Both preferably, so I can add the exact average damage added per attack to my DPS tables.
Can't help much on the proc rate beyond telling you that it's nowhere near as generous as the one on Celestia. It seems like 5%, maybe less given the low proc rate and how many shurikens a shuri puts out.
Here's the damage info:
Oh, just in case you were thinking that for once, SSG didn't screw this up and make it buggy like half the other RL gear, don't worry, they did.
The blind portion on the AE does land on the mobs, but it doesn't put the blinded icon over their heads, so the only ways to tell if a mob is actually blinded by it is via the inspect window or actually seeing the mob run around randomly attacking whatever is nearby.
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Re: Zergalicious - Pure 20 Monk LD VKF Thrower DPS
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Digimonk wrote
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Can't help much on the proc rate beyond telling you that it's nowhere near as generous as the one on Celestia. It seems like 5%, maybe less given the low proc rate and how many shurikens a shuri puts out.
Here's the damage info:
Oh, just in case you were thinking that for once, SSG didn't screw this up and make it buggy like half the other RL gear, don't worry, they did.
The blind portion on the AE does land on the mobs, but it doesn't put the blinded icon over their heads, so the only ways to tell if a mob is actually blinded by it is via the inspect window or actually seeing the mob run around randomly attacking whatever is nearby.
Thanks.
Would you say 10d20 sounds accurate? That's 105 on average.
Regarding the proc rate, 5% on 105 is a measly 5.25 per attack. If it is so low, it is weird that anyone would try it out and keep using it as the offhand on a shuri build. Celestia, Rebellion, TF, Lootgen would all be better options.
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5 Foot Step wrote
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Thanks.
Would you say 10d20 sounds accurate? That's 105 on average.
Regarding the proc rate, 5% on 105 is a measly 5.25 per attack. If it is so low, it is weird that anyone would try it out and keep using it as the offhand on a shuri build. Celestia, Rebellion, TF, Lootgen would all be better options.
No. I see 500.
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What is the to-hit number you are getting with this setup? And dex? I am finding myself in problems with to-hit.
150
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No. I see 500.
On average? Or 500 is the highest you've seen?
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5 Foot Step wrote
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On average? Or 500 is the highest you've seen?
average. also its light damage so lots of RL mobs are weak to it. seen 1000-1500 plenty, and its aoe.
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Is it scaling with MP/RP?
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5 Foot Step wrote
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Is it scaling with MP/RP?
never tested. def not with spell power. a shiradi caster got same as me.
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5% proc rate sound right?
500*.05=25 average damage per attack (per mob)
...which isn't terrible; however,...
Consider that when you're averaging 1000 sneak attack damage per attack, then increasing your deception uptime from ~83% to ~98% with a second stack of Improved Deception, averages you 150 more damage per attack when you have aggro.
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Sergod wrote
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150
Without accurary items? Can you do a breakdown of that? Anyways my melees have about that, 150, and they do granze.
(Combat): You attack Vargas Vallakovich. You roll a 5 (+154): you grazing hit!
This was on R4. At this point each point of to-hit is going to be about 1% more DPS (generzlizing granzing as 0, wich is not true).
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5 Foot Step wrote
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5% proc rate sound right?
500*.05=25 average damage per attack (per mob)
...which isn't terrible; however,...
Consider that when you're averaging 1000 sneak attack damage per attack, then increasing your deception uptime from ~83% to ~98% with a second stack of Improved Deception, averages you 150 more damage per attack when you have aggro.
Ya I don't give enough shits to go grind FoT. Helpless gives SA
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Without accurary items? Can you do a breakdown of that? Anyways my melees have about that, 150, and they do granze.
(Combat): You attack Vargas Vallakovich. You roll a 5 (+154): you grazing hit!
This was on R4. At this point each point of to-hit is going to be about 1% more DPS (generzlizing granzing as 0, wich is not true).
Ya I don't see grazes on r10 and see up to 180 to hit. Idk. Guess you need to git gud?
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Ya I don't see grazes on r10 and see up to 180 to hit. Idk. Guess you need to git gud?
Heh hard to belive you can get 180 to hit without items. You know your friend symbiot is slotting 39 accuracy and is getting about 150 to hit per his vids. Why don't you tell him to get good? Okay this build has more dex, but that doesn't explain the difference. I don't get it why you want to pass an image here or something by just saying you got that value, maybe want to pass an image or something, but wathever
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Heh hard to belive you can get 180 to hit without items. You know your friend symbiot is slotting 39 accuracy and is getting about 150 to hit per his vids. Why don't you tell him to get good? Okay this build has more dex, but that doesn't explain the difference. I don't get it why you want to pass an image here or something by just saying you got that value, maybe want to pass an image or something, but wathever
Symb will also say, and has many times, thrower to hit is silly high.
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Heh hard to belive you can get 180 to hit without items. You know your friend symbiot is slotting 39 accuracy and is getting about 150 to hit per his vids. Why don't you tell him to get good? Okay this build has more dex, but that doesn't explain the difference. I don't get it why you want to pass an image here or something by just saying you got that value, maybe want to pass an image or something, but wathever
Shuriken get a massive random unexplained bonus to hit that doesn't seem to originate from any source of gear. Simply equipping spite on my shintao puts it at a higher to-hit than duality. It's dumb, but advantageous.
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