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Jan 14th, 2018 at 9:33pm
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So what is the best class for instakill/cc in current endgame, sorc wiz or warlock? What are the advantages and disvantages of each one?
  
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Reply #1 - Jan 14th, 2018 at 11:51pm
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IMO...a well played wiz. Warlock is probably tied though.
  
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Prolly wiz or lock for versatility. tho druid is dope. quake and heals are really underrated
  

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Quake doesn't helpless, and doesn't last for shit on r10.
  
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Wizard is going to have a better CC potential than lock, and prismatic spray OP. Lock has better instakills.
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Reply #5 - Jan 15th, 2018 at 5:38am
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Sorc has cast speed and cooldown advantages over Wiz so if you have all the PLs and gear then your DCs are overkill.

They get 2X as many sprays and don't need SLAs with the short wail and finger cooldowns.

Enervate + energydrain in same time as wizzie energy drain.

SP will be an issue when things go tits up though.
  

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Sorc has moar sp and better cooldowns.
Tardlock has moar instakills and Evards.
Wizard has ... idk. Pointless self hjeals ?
Druid - NEVER seen good one in 9 years. "Hyped" earthquake is a joke really.

I'll prolly never go back to wizard. Sorc ftw.
  
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Wipe wrote on Jan 15th, 2018 at 6:27am:
Sorc has moar sp and better cooldowns.
Tardlock has moar instakills and Evards.
Wizard has ... idk. Pointless self hjeals ?
Druid - NEVER seen good one in 9 years. "Hyped" earthquake is a joke really.

I'll prolly never go back to wizard. Sorc ftw.


Pretty much this for r10s.
  
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Exactly what I was thinking, seems sorc is the best option. Funny how oppinions changed from first responses to last.

For me I think it's like this:

Wizard: more DC for secondary schools, more spellpen, more versatility, high reflex save, moderate SP pool, terrible to lv up, confined to arcane sphere

Warlock: less versatility, less SP pool, easy to lv up, can play in EA, and as you people are saying they have more instakills (don't know how, you guys mean the finger SLA? - the capstone is very nice tought), evards

Sorc: moderate DC, moderate spellpen, largest SP pool, smaller cooldowns, can play in EA or arcane sphere, easy to lv up, can do DPS on lower skulls, moderate versatility

It seems overall wizard is the worse, depends on how much more DC they get. Spellpen seems irrelevant these days right?

I'm really inclined to go sorc moslty because of higher SP and to ahve a versatily alt that can do DC casting at high skulls and solo/contribute with DPS on low skulls. And there is the lvling up... for a guy like me that has few time to play it is a thing to account.
  
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Sergod wrote on Jan 15th, 2018 at 4:03am:
Quake doesn't helpless, and doesn't last for shit on r10.

refresh it. works on everything. our druid is probably the best cc/healer i have ever seen in any video on the net
  

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Wipe wrote on Jan 15th, 2018 at 6:27am:
Druid - NEVER seen good one in 9 years. "Hyped" earthquake is a joke really.

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Reply #11 - Jan 15th, 2018 at 10:51am
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Wipe wrote on Jan 15th, 2018 at 6:27am:
I'll prolly never go back to wizard. Sorc ftw.


Interesting.   I must be retarded as I'm sucking ass through a straw on sorc and I'm above average on a wizard.

You have details on your build posted someplace?
  
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No love for Necro Cleric?
  

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Rubbinns wrote on Jan 15th, 2018 at 10:25am:
refresh it. works on everything. our druid is probably the best cc/healer i have ever seen in any video on the net

Some day we need to record how our best druid display his work in a video. With him around I can tank most r8 to r10. Lov him. Cool
  
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Mavvis wrote on Jan 15th, 2018 at 10:58pm:
Some day we need to record how our best druid display his work in a video. With him around I can tank most r8 to r10. Lov him. Cool


I.. I died at this.. If the Druid is quaking, you are not tanking.. Anyone can tank r8-10 with a proper druid.. the problem is finding a proper fucking druid
  
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Reply #15 - Jan 16th, 2018 at 9:42am
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id run 18wiz/2monk personally. cant stand sorc spell slots
  
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Halfmaniac wrote on Jan 15th, 2018 at 3:59pm:
No love for Necro Cleric?

Does Enlarge give Slay Living a decent range, similar to Destruction without Enlarge?
  
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Vendui wrote on Jan 16th, 2018 at 12:09am:
I.. I died at this.. If the Druid is quaking, you are not tanking.. Anyone can tank r8-10 with a proper druid.. the problem is finding a proper fucking druid


Problem is finding a proper anything. Game lacks quality people
  
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Carpone wrote on Jan 16th, 2018 at 11:32am:
Does Enlarge give Slay Living a decent range, similar to Destruction without Enlarge?


It's double. So it's not decent, but it's actually usable, as opposed to don't bother.
  

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Bigjunk wrote on Jan 15th, 2018 at 10:51am:
Interesting.   I must be retarded as I'm sucking ass through a straw on sorc and I'm above average on a wizard.

You have details on your build posted someplace?

Nothing special, just cc specialist. 107 enchant / 100 necro and evo in reaper. And it's like 5 th life toon. Fullretardpletionist can have what, 5 or 6 moar DCs ? But I ain't got time for that.
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Fuck if I know, it works great either way. But I don't build toons to solo anymore really.
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Racialpletionist + 1


Proper term is "Complete Racist".
  
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SirValentine wrote on Jan 19th, 2018 at 9:50am:
Proper term is "Complete Racist".


That's my joke!!!
  
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Wipe wrote on Jan 18th, 2018 at 8:21pm:
Nothing special, just cc specialist. 107 enchant / 100 necro and evo in reaper. And it's like 5 th life toon. Fullretardpletionist can have what, 5 or 6 moar DCs ? But I ain't got time for that.
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What CHR you at?   

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Fuck if I know, it works great either way. But I don't build toons to solo anymore really.

  
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Reply #23 - Jan 22nd, 2018 at 3:11am
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Sorc rewards intelligent play.

1. Knowing a mob's weak save. (Often people's DCs are overkill and then they get mad when a finger doesn't land on a warchief...)

2. SPAMing CC rotations. (It helps to have a 12button mouse)
-> Hold (will)
-> Web (reflex) ...or... Incendiary cloud / Sunburst (If there's no Tank, since blind fucks up intimidate)
-> Electric loop SLA (will)
-> Greater Shout (fortitude)
-> Prismatic spray (will, fort)
(repeat trying to keep Prism on cooldown, then...)
-> circle
-> wail
-> finger

Works in Demon Assault r10. Trogs have weak will. Tieflings have weak fort. The scary ones are the Reavers. You're not going to catch their will save so fort is your best bet since web sucks.

It helps to have a Cleric with a good Cometfall, or a druid with earthquake on them. Their reflex saves blow. That's the point of those two classes IMO. Reflex-based CC on burning targets (since web blows).
  

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Reply #24 - Jan 22nd, 2018 at 9:39am
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Bigjunk wrote on Jan 19th, 2018 at 1:48pm:
What CHR you at?

102 charisma in EA with Yugo and remnant pot.
  
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