Sergod wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 9:29pm:


We could go back to the glory days where you yelled at rangers for having gimp dps in eChrono lol

Munkenmo wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2018 at 2:59am:


I got a couple friends that would play classic in a heartbeat. Shame ssg will never do it. 

Dark_Helmet wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2018 at 4:06am:


Anyone who whines about lack of content in a classic server are retarded. The whole point of a classic server is to re-live the leveling, game mechanics, and content at a certain period of time/patch in the game.

A progression server in ddo would be equally retarded. As you would spend a year grinding just for MotU to essentially destroy all your hard work. Then you get the massive power creep forcing you to update your entire gear set every six months. You're better off playing current.

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I never invalidated your opinion. Just showed flaws in your assumptions coming from someone who hasnt played the game fully. You state running the same content (raids) was boring and tring was tedious. This is true. Unfortunately this is the same in every single mmo. You grind and grind, the majority of it being boring and tedious. You should have chose a different game genre. 

What did you expect would happen when you played a support class that didnt support? Would you play a healer that didnt heal?

Rose-tinted Goggles wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2018 at 10:07pm:


I mean they probably did have gimp dps. Or the glory days of me kiting echrono boss and soloing him from 70% to 0 with a Pale Master, while 11 soul stones watched.

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Are you sure you're talking about ddo? Ever since MotU the game was designed around xp treadmill. Running the same quests over and over again. No endgame. Just Epic destinies, iconic/racial/epic pastlives, reaper tree.

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I dont know what your build was but there were tons of viable bard builds. Its doesnt help that each raid only requires 1 bard. Although in epic quests I would have taken a spellsinger any day. Can heal, cc, and buff. If you were declined from Shrouds/vods/Hoxs/reavers than you were doing something very very wrong. I was declined on a few lfms since I mained a dps rogue but this was a rare occasion. I highly doubt you were declined every time. Most likely an exaggeration on your end.

Sergod wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 9:54am:


Your Palemaster was called Necrobarbie right? Ran with you a decent amount in classic.

Rose-tinted Goggles wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 9:07pm:


I'm fairly sure he's not at this point. Heroic shroud was ~7 runs to runs to fibnish a tear3 weapon(also note the guy saying its "10x worse than slavers" claimed to be able to solo harry in under a minute on his apparently gimp-ass bard).  Sure, you did need more than 10 runs to finish a wearable greensteel item, but since you wanted to get 20 runs in anyway to get that cleansing item it was easy. There were runs happening multiple times a night and pugs filling in minutes. And the shroud was fucking FUN, even a gimp-ass bard should have been able to enjoy the experience, unless he was as anti-social and combative in-game as he is on here.


Rose-tinted Goggles wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 9:07pm:


Really, unless someone had built there bard extremely retardedly(to the point of being so gimp they could barely solo heroic casual over level), you could go into the Shroud and contribute. Pugs usually ran on normal or hard, so without any effort you could get CC spells high enough. You could also backup heal the tank(it ALWAYS helped to have an extra guy throwing heals at the main tank). Even if you had no items to boost spellpower or crit chance.

Shroud was a social activity back then. Veterans were excited to show newbs the ropes, and the teamwork elements were quick and easy to learn. On my second shroud, on a gimp-AF artificer, I still helped out very decently and got in to the movements. Our party was racing around part 1 like a flock of birds, it was a beautiful moment.

And sure, every raid only "required" one bard, but again unless someone was gimped to the point of uselessness even outside the raid, they were doing something in shroud.

Rose-tinted Goggles wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 9:07pm:


Was he constantly making unprovided and childish attacks on everyone who disagreed with him, then following them around? Yup, that'd be gramgram. Bonus points if someone ever genuinely attempted to apologize and reconcile, and he interpreted that as an attack.


Gram, it sounds like you were just a huge newbtarded asshole in-game who didn't know what the fuck he was doing. Now you've come here, talked shit, and got slapped for it. Hey, wasn't that KNNs origin story?

wow nomnoms you're special, i never said anything about soloing harry ever in the history of ever, so maybe lay off the dicks till you can get your head straight some of them seem to have been poking into your last remnants of grey matter.

I don't know where I ever said i wasn't capable of contributing, I like how that gets pulled out of the ass when needed to shut somebody down around here, you're a bunch of average players at best yourselves.

As for KNN and your constant references, borrow better material from the people who's dicks you've sucked nomnoms, and maybe don't parade around like a retarded child that not only can't you get past level 4 in under 2 hours by yourself but that you blocked me for saying it's possible and that you're a shit player.

Frank wrote on Oct 4^th, 2018 at 4:04pm:


With DDO's waning population they definitely wouldn't. The only real hope for a classic server is an emulated one. Unfortunately it doesn't seem like the player population is high enough to support such a project.

Anyone feel like hacking SSG's data center and stealing a copy of the code?

Frank wrote on Oct 4^th, 2018 at 4:04pm:


I was unaware I was the only person who would play on a classic server.

Frank wrote on Oct 4^th, 2018 at 4:04pm:


I have no doubt they'll play it safe and keep collecting dividends on current ddo. As far as them coding a classic server, I think the risk may pay off if they can grab the attention of all the players who quit over the years.

Rose-tinted Goggles wrote on Oct 4^th, 2018 at 7:09pm:


They'd never be able to. All of those people have moved on to other games by now, or are unwilling to start over from scratch. Even if they did bring up a classic server, how many people do you really think would jump at the chance to start over on that triple-completionist character they abandoned years ago?

Just starting over in a brand new game and getting sufficiently invested is hard enough, starting fresh in a game you've already played heavily isn't going to be entice people to open their wallets.

Rubbinns wrote on Oct 4^th, 2018 at 7:16pm:


We've heard from ex-employees that even back when the company was profitable it was a living nightmare to work there. I don't imagine things have much improved. So, yeah, lots of higherings probably means lots of firings/quittings in disgust/and, given what we know about Sev... suicides.

I love all the baseless speculation. Have you guys tried critiquing quarterbacks on Sundays?

Rose-tinted Goggles wrote on Oct 4^th, 2018 at 8:54pm:


AC 1 & 2 had gone into "buy the account for a one-time fee, play forever" mode by the time of the shutdown. They'd also closed down the ability to buy accounts well before then, so for the last 6-12 months the games were generating 0 revenue. They were just beloved by both the turbine team and the remaining playerbase. Its hard to get round figures, but I recall reading somewhere that there were only around 3,000 active players by the end, minus the thousands more who re-installed and logged in just to be there at the end. I never got to be a part of it, but AC was really something special; keep in mind this was a game with a 500 square mile seamless world...

in 1999.

Most MODERN mmos dont even try to match that, and this was made for the era of dialup, and yet was fast enough to support twitch gameplay(not the streaming service, think reaction-based combat with split-second timing). It was a remarkable achievement both technologically and historically, so it was being kept alive for that reason, not because it was making money.

Rose-tinted Goggles wrote on Oct 4^th, 2018 at 8:54pm:


I think with the piss-poor state of the game community, even trying to make a "classic-like" server where all they did was turn off the epic content and reaper would cost them more than it would ever earn. Honestly, looking at it as a revenue-generator, its just never going to pay for itself,

AND its going to hurt the game by further fracturing the playerbase.

Consider: we currently have endgamers, heroic/racial TR grinders, epic tr grinders, iconic tr grinders, multiple levels of reaper players, perma deathers, tight-knit guilds, and just plain antisocial people who log in but only solo. Combine all that with low server populations, and its damn hard to find a group these days.

ADDING another server with yet another play-mode would result in fewer LFMs over all, which leads to more players quitting because there's no one to play with.

Basically, it would cost too much to make, probably loose more paying customers than it would bring in, and not make as much money as the current game since there's so much less to monetize(fewer adventure packs, no store tomes, no bypass timers, not ottos boxes, etc, etc, etc).

The only reasonable hope for a classic server is through an emulator project. As a labor of love its absolutely possible, but as a money-making venture its a non-starter.

Keep in mind, I'm not saying all this to be mean. I'd love to see a classic server as much as you would, just realistically I can't imagine it happening.

Rose-tinted Goggles wrote on Oct 5^th, 2018 at 9:20am:


I don't think its a question of size so much as lack of technical ability and knowhow.

To compare, EverQuest Online Adventures, an EQ MMO for the playstation 2, has a server-emulator project in progress. Its tough to get round figures, but even at it's zeneth, that game probably had a smaller population than than DDO does now. Our problem is we're all too busy grinding out past lives to work on such a thing Also we lack a community organizer to spearhead such a project, as well as individuals with the technical skills required.

It also doesn't help that SSG would sue the crap out of us if we tried

Does anyone want to tell gram that its  "monday-morning quarterbacking" not "sunday"?

noamineo wrote on Oct 5^th, 2018 at 12:24pm:


as usual your reading comprehension skills are super on point nomnoms you're a fucking genius.