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rogue, arti, xbow build, advice request
Sep 4th, 2018 at 7:34pm
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so going to play a rogue 16 / artificer 4 (for Endless Fusilade and a few other goodies)

was curious on race / weapon choice

pretty much between gnome and light repeater, or another adequate race and great x bow.

im assuming gnome is the way to go because a lot of damage is going to come from SA damage and thus fire rate trumps the better base stats, but I rolled a test shiradi at 15 to mess with the idea and did like the high base damage.

so is one overwhelmingly better then the other?
  
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Reply #1 - Sep 4th, 2018 at 8:02pm
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Would definitely go gnome or halfing for the IPS angle.   It makes a big difference in how many things you'll hit with IPS.

Gnome obviously has the synergy with light repeaters, but would still work just fine with gxbows instead if you wanted to go that route.

I'll point out that if you're going to spend any time at cap, Volley is one of the best combination of weapon effects and damage available right now and, in my opinion, what puts gxbow ahead of repeaters in the end.  Your options for good weapons is much more limited with light repeaters.
  
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Reply #2 - Sep 6th, 2018 at 7:52am
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10 Rogue 6 Fighter 4 Arty is a popular split for this type of thing. Halfling for the size with IPS is fantastic and the Dragonmark can be very useful especially if you have Racial AP.

The bonus fighter feats lets you build the ranged/thrown weapon focus stuff for the range power or armor bonuses if you choose to run this heavy armor. Alternatively you could do the Shot on the Run Line too. Fighter also gets you bonuses to Action Boosts so you end up with like 14 or 15 Fusilade's per rest which is quite substantial.

If you're doing the mechanic thing definitely go GxB the damage is ridiculous. I tend to run mine in LD.
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Reply #4 - Sep 6th, 2018 at 6:03pm
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Digimonk wrote on Sep 4th, 2018 at 8:02pm:
Would definitely go gnome or halfing for the IPS angle.   It makes a big difference in how many things you'll hit with IPS.


Not only the angle, but access to color spray.  This is a serious racial that is much overlooked.
  

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Reply #5 - Sep 8th, 2018 at 6:54pm
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Frank wrote on Sep 6th, 2018 at 6:03pm:
Not only the angle, but access to color spray.  This is a serious racial that is much overlooked.


Honestly never found any use of it. Maybe some melee artificer gnome? On higher skulls you are staying out of range of it anyway, you are shooting from farest possible position, keeping room for maneurs and lining mobs for your ips. On lower skulls you just dont wanna loose any dps especally with EF on and interrupt your attacks. I do like passive blur and UMD though, W&S mastery in racials may be great choice too. You wont lack it anyway but there never too much UMD Smiley
  
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Reply #6 - Sep 12th, 2018 at 12:33am
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Rzyman wrote on Sep 8th, 2018 at 6:54pm:
Honestly never found any use of it. Maybe some melee artificer gnome? On higher skulls you are staying out of range of it anyway, you are shooting from farest possible position, keeping room for maneurs and lining mobs for your ips. On lower skulls you just dont wanna loose any dps especally with EF on and interrupt your attacks. I do like passive blur and UMD though, W&S mastery in racials may be great choice too. You wont lack it anyway but there never too much UMD Smiley


A few points:

1) "On higher skulls you are staying out of range of it" At some point shit will get in your face,  it is inevitable.  If you can avoid this entirely you are a god and please teach me.

2) "On lower skulls you just dont wanna loose any dps" Color spray causes helpless.  Do I need to draw the connecting dots between helpless and dps?

3) It's almost free if you're already spending in the tree.

4) SLA

5) Can blind in an aoe, so good for cc as well as murdering age of rage eyeballs.

Give it another try, I think you'll like it.
  

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Digimonk wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 12:39pm:
I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive.


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Digimonk wrote on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 1:58pm:
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Re: rogue, arti, xbow build, advice request
Reply #7 - Sep 12th, 2018 at 11:40am
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Agreed on using Color Spray. It has great CC potential. IIRC, it could also stun mobs.

If you're playing a Gnome arcane of some sort and aren't using it (along with the effectively free spellpoint-wise metamagic feats along with it), you're making a big mistake.
  

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