A soul eater warlock with an ooze weapon could apply a 26% damage bonus to a party. That's pretty big on red named fights, even in 6man parties. Toss rebuke in, and you're another DPS toon. I really wish Pull of Reality would work on bosses---it would make archers a shit ton better.

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harharharhar wrote on Feb 4^th, 2019 at 11:35pm:


Technomage wrote on Feb 5^th, 2019 at 12:01pm:


~ Techno / harhar, observations ~

I would really fucking like pull of reality to work.

WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Feb 5^th, 2019 at 3:25pm:

Probably. Flow and Shard are too good in combination as AoE, no save, all mob type CC. And Razor + Whelm would be higher dps once something is Vacuum + PRR stacked, and once Razor has its stacks.

There is going to be a lot of weapon swapping going on now. Calamity and Flow has Fetters and someone will always need to get and keep vulnerability up. While another applies constant Dust/Suffering/Ooze. Then there are Affirmation swaps, and Bloodfeast swap if the build is barb raged.

How long is the Suffering proc up for? Might be worth going through a Dust/Ooze/Suffering rotation if the cooldowns and stack timers allow. Dust drops entirely on expiration of one stack every 12 seconds. This is only relevant for shortman or solo runs. Gets much more manageable in a party to have dedicated debuffers on the dps and casters.

I wonder what the dps tests will trend towards to now with all the weapon swapping. Will be interesting to see what combinations produce the best results.

I haven't tested anything I just assumed neg PRR would be same damage increase as Pos PRR decrease.

Rubbins test looks like that's true, but Teth and others are saying it's linear.

I have no idea

Ooze and Constricting nightmare are the same proc. The debuff is called "melted" and using one over the other just resets the cooldown.

WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Feb 5^th, 2019 at 6:59pm:

Suffering uses "Melted Armor" debuff. Ooze and Nightmare might be the same. If so then Suffering swap for one hit is the best application of Melted Armor.

harharharhar wrote on Feb 5^th, 2019 at 6:21pm:

No, I am getting an almost 40% increase in dps with only using lgs Dust, on a target already stacked with vulnerability.

Ya Coco's formula checks out.

maybe people will run Leg Shroud again?

WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Feb 5^th, 2019 at 7:21pm:


Would dust weapons behave like ooze/suffering and not affect SA? Or due to a different proc type do you think that they may boost SA? If all prr debuffs don’t  boost SA dmg this could end up being a massive proxy nerf for SA heavy builds.

Sneak attack damage only appears to bypass all DR because it is lumped with the front number. In other words, DR can only cut into your SA number once your front number is reduced to zero.

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I was under the impression that DR does not affect SA. (E.x., Crystal in Baba, or flame skulls on a rogue when you don't use your bludgeoning weapons.)
Is there some example or test you're thinking of?

acidpickachu wrote on Feb 6^th, 2019 at 3:05am:


Vulnerability probably never affected SA. SA obviously doesn't need a buff. Are you complaining after the numerous buffs to rogues lately? Very silly.