Quote:You have that 1/2 correct. You have to go into raids with the understanding that you complete R1. And if it goes bad, everyone has to call out what went wrong, and fix or replace the weak links. DO NOT lower it accordingly, but instead only raise it accordingly.
There is nothing wrong with wanting less, but if you join with the intent on becoming better, and get picked if you get called out for shitting the bed, then you can't get mad, upset or otherwise discouraged. Instead, the criticism, no matter how harsh, should only be laughed as a group as everyone learns.
You guys say that like the problem is the players are bad. Most of the time its just that there aren't enough geared players on to do r1, and even if there are, a critical role like a tank or healer is missing.
The way timers work, you are encouraged to get the timers started ASAP. Thats why a lot of people settle for LH or even LN raids when they cant get a party geared enough for r1.
A lot of geared players dont post or join LFMs. That kinda makes it hard to get r1 LFMs raids going in the first place. If half your party is at 1k hp or below, you are probably not going to pull off r1. Sure, you can get rid of the undergeared players. How many hours do you want to spend sitting around hoping that some geared players join your LFM? Especially when they are telling you "our guild did it the other day" or "i dont join pugs"? Assuming they even bother to reply to you at all that is.
Now if you are in a party where everyone is in full legendary gear, have all roles covered and somehow still failing...I don't know, r1 FOTP or whatever is considered easy....then yes, you absolutely should stop and figure out what the hell is going wrong...and fix it.
But with the shortage of players, you cant just "fix" a shortage of geared players, unless you just happen to have a full raid party's worth of geared players on that are always on at the same time, at cap, that never TRs...but that's basically a raid static anyway.