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Re: Pretty sure I'm going Pally
Reply #25 - Aug 7th, 2020 at 3:17am
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Wipe wrote on Aug 7th, 2020 at 2:41am:
But it's Tilomere worthy idea.
One shotty, kitey ranged that destroys everybody's eyes and ears with fucking meteors and pew pew retarded sounds.
While doing no damage.



Oh God, are you stuck with him on Cannith or smth?

  
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Reply #26 - Aug 7th, 2020 at 6:40am
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Alex DeLarge wrote on Aug 7th, 2020 at 3:17am:
Oh God, are you stuck with him on Cannith or smth?

Naw, Gland for the last ten years or so.

Hard to miss terrible builds ideas backed up by killcounts screenshots in newb parties and Soundburst fetish.

Even the Italians seem to invite for comedic relief:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ews5hs49Ybc

But then, Gland has Leslie.
  
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Reply #27 - Aug 7th, 2020 at 7:46am
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The build is outdated (built around CAF spam). It will still perform well but consider STR Silvanus instead now.
  
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Re: Pretty sure I'm going Pally
Reply #28 - Aug 7th, 2020 at 1:01pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Aug 7th, 2020 at 2:12am:
Pally in general is super strong right now. I don't know about this guy's specific build, (obviously I prefer my own) but I'm sure it's not bad.

A base Blackrazor is super easy to get. Schism shards to upgrade it are what you will be grinding for.



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Reply #29 - Aug 7th, 2020 at 1:07pm
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Justanotherlurker wrote on Aug 7th, 2020 at 7:46am:
The build is outdated (built around CAF spam). It will still perform well but consider STR Silvanus instead now.



Thats one aspect. But, I'm running a 130 dire charge DC without nearly being fully optimal. (That doesn't count any pots, and my gearing is mediorcre. I don't even have the sharn set)
  

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Reply #30 - Aug 7th, 2020 at 1:09pm
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Also, any reason the OP build used medium armor instead of heavy? Something obvious I'm missing?
  

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Re: Pretty sure I'm going Pally
Reply #31 - Aug 7th, 2020 at 1:28pm
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Head-Meat wrote on Aug 7th, 2020 at 1:09pm:
Also, any reason the OP build used medium armor instead of heavy? Something obvious I'm missing?

Much higher Dodge potential than heavy armor seems likely.
  
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Reply #32 - Aug 7th, 2020 at 1:36pm
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Yes its mentioned in his posts he switches back and forth but prefers the higher dodge of the medium (a lot will also depend on your reaper/mythic bonus)

As you get better geared STR is the way to go. Tronko even switches to Tremor for bosses and Tremor is easier to get than reflection.
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Reply #33 - Aug 7th, 2020 at 2:24pm
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Head-Meat wrote on Aug 7th, 2020 at 1:07pm:
Thats one aspect. But, I'm running a 130 dire charge DC without nearly being fully optimal. (That doesn't count any pots, and my gearing is mediorcre. I don't even have the sharn set)

It's still better than str based due to having higher stun and trip dc, saves, and better lay on hands. Str based trades all that for a few seconds on a kobold.
  
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Re: Pretty sure I'm going Pally
Reply #34 - Aug 7th, 2020 at 3:12pm
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Head-Meat wrote on Aug 7th, 2020 at 1:07pm:
But, I'm running a 130 dire charge DC without nearly being fully optimal



bet your Stunning Blow and Trip are really bad tho Tongue, Also 130 DC is only decent for LE/R1 stuff.

Can't dump STR on CHA based PDK, but if you have the tactical gear then CHA based doesn't really need Leg.Tactics twist.
  
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Reply #35 - Aug 7th, 2020 at 4:19pm
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Alex DeLarge wrote on Aug 7th, 2020 at 3:12pm:
bet your Stunning Blow and Trip are really bad tho Tongue, Also 130 DC is only decent for LE/R1 stuff.

Can't dump STR on CHA based PDK, but if you have the tactical gear then CHA based doesn't really need Leg.Tactics twist.




I'm running fate singer. No Leg tac twist. Stun/Trip are lame at 96 atm. But, again, my gear is weak af atm. I'll be getting the sharn stuff on point this weekend. We'll reevaluate next week.
  

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Reply #36 - Aug 8th, 2020 at 7:39am
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Rubbinns wrote on Aug 7th, 2020 at 2:24pm:
It's still better than str based due to having higher stun and trip dc, saves, and better lay on hands. Str based trades all that for a few seconds on a kobold. 


Even on STR build CHR is not a dump stat. If I'm running in Fatesinger my CHR is at 90 when running turn the tides without running anything crazy like Abishai cookies.My saves, DCs, lay on hands are all fine and dps is noticeably better.
  
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Reply #37 - Aug 8th, 2020 at 1:54pm
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Justanotherlurker wrote on Aug 8th, 2020 at 7:39am:
Even on STR build CHR is not a dump stat. If I'm running in Fatesinger my CHR is at 90

Yeah, strength is secondary on the charisma build.
  
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Reply #38 - Aug 8th, 2020 at 2:12pm
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Too bad cha to hit/damage is only available through a horrible Faustian bargain...
  
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Reply #39 - Aug 9th, 2020 at 8:14am
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Rubbinns wrote on Aug 8th, 2020 at 1:54pm:
Yeah, strength is secondary on the charisma build.


Yes thats why it comes down to the weapon

Tremor>Reflection

You can swing Tremor on the CHR build but at that point why go CHR at all? For a low life build CHR build has some definite advantages for sure but we are talking about a toon that has all past lives here.
  
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Reply #40 - Aug 9th, 2020 at 11:31am
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Justanotherlurker wrote on Aug 9th, 2020 at 8:14am:
Tremor>Reflection

The dps increase is like a few hundred points on average per hit across 20 hits. So, say like 2500 vs 2700
  
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Reply #41 - Aug 11th, 2020 at 6:38pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Aug 9th, 2020 at 11:31am:
The dps increase is like a few hundred points on average per hit across 20 hits. So, say like 2500 vs 2700


im a str pally. fight me
  
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Re: Pretty sure I'm going Pally
Reply #42 - Aug 11th, 2020 at 10:05pm
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Something I just realized is that with the huge THF damage modifiers, eSoS is relevant at cap again.

eSoS: 3.75[2d6]+241*2.25 (14-18x4, 19-20x6) + 59.2 (37 seeker) = 660.5125

Tail: 8.75[2d4+4]+246*1.9 (14-18x3, 19-20x5) + 46.25 (37 seeker) = 663.275

Blackrazor: 8.25[2d6+6]+246*1.7 (16-18x3, 19-20x5) + 35.15 (37 seeker)= 635.675
  
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Reply #43 - Aug 11th, 2020 at 10:17pm
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I spent some time touring my alts this afternoon. Why the fuck did I respec so many of them into staff builds?
  
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Reply #44 - Aug 12th, 2020 at 1:27am
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Rubbinns wrote on Aug 7th, 2020 at 2:24pm:
It's still better than str based due to having higher stun and trip dc, saves, and better lay on hands. Str based trades all that for a few seconds on a kobold. 


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