Rubbinns wrote on Oct 14
th, 2020 at 6:07pm:
Hard to impress bads because they don't understand what they are looking at. Is the CC really better? For who? The duration is no longer 3 minutes long now. Is the burst really better than Meteor Swarm? Has anyone tried testing the dps on lama or Bruntsmash?
The cc is better for when you are dealing with mobs that aren't going to die in one rotation. If we cherrypick quests (and note the solos he posted are restricted to ones where cc beyond helpless does not matter), then yes cc doesn't matter. But if we go with modern raids, longer quests, etc., then cc starts to matter.
I mean the raw numbers for burst are pretty self explanatory... do you want me to walk you through the math?
Rubbinns wrote on Oct 14
th, 2020 at 6:07pm:
Does it matter? How many do you think you would need on an alchemist to match these times?
I mean it doesn't if you have a bunch of duped pots laying around. Otherwise it does. And it does speak to the efficacy of the build imo. Maybe I'm just old school, but I still remember back when using pots was frowned upon as it pointed to build weakness (I get not everybody plays that way, and if you are doing achievements nowadays, you kinda have to).
As for alchemist, they may have 2kish less sp, but they have less than 50% costs as well as lower numerical sp base costs. 5k sp with 50% efficiency is better than 7-8k sp sorc in this regard.
Rubbinns wrote on Oct 14
th, 2020 at 6:07pm:
Wait, so you think that a build that allows Fati to solo a large swath of quests is somehow going to be worse in a group?
Solo efficacy does not equal group efficacy. That's a pretty trivial statement that's long held up. In fact, usually to increase your solo efficacy you give up other things.
For example, his build would be better (objectively) in a group environment if he switched from aasimar to dragonborn, assuming that someone in the group could heal.
Alchemists provide a lot more utility to a group than sorc does, while surpassing w.r.t. to burst.