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Sergod Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1109 Location: Richmond, VA Joined: Aug 18^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: 1-20 for Racial PLs Reply #25 - Dec 2^nd, 2020 at 9:36pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2020 at 1:22pm: Sadly I'm all done with my racial lives myself or I would absolutely give this a go. Going to slot a gem as-is because why the hell not? If I do any heroics/epics on my rogue it will be fun to mess with. +200 SP is nice from ottos set also.


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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 8868 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: 1-20 for Racial PLs Reply #26 - Dec 2^nd, 2020 at 10:04pm	Print Post
	ZooperDooper wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2020 at 9:23pm: Still hoping someene will post 1-20 build and gear.. I don't run casters so this will be a new path for me. You need a whole 1-20 set? That's gonna be tough. I think you want KotB gear to lvl 8, then Slavers 5 piece set + CC until your greensteels come out to play. Sharn kicks in at 15 and you're ready to kick everything's ass.

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ZooperDooper Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1200 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2014	Re: 1-20 for Racial PLs Reply #27 - Dec 2^nd, 2020 at 11:22pm	Print Post
	Mostly just the build plan and types of items to equip noamineo wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2020 at 10:04pm: You need a whole 1-20 set? That's gonna be tough. I think you want KotB gear to lvl 8, then Slavers 5 piece set + CC until your greensteels come out to play. Sharn kicks in at 15 and you're ready to kick everything's ass.


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higgildypiggildy Stormreaver Piker Offline I just mock the world Posts: 657 Joined: Dec 8^th, 2011	Re: 1-20 for Racial PLs Reply #28 - Dec 3^rd, 2020 at 11:05am	Print Post
	Warlock. Max Cha and Con, rest into Int. Acid pact and wear Rock Boots all the way Hold a Radiance of Radiance lore stick in off hand. primary hand is for Heal Scrolls or whatever from lvl 6 switch to light from lvl 10 use Ravenloft belt for enhancement bonus to acid from lvl 12 switch to Auralock Spells: Jump, Shield, Blur, Resist, Tentacles, Displacement, (Mass) Prot Elements(change this as necessary as you level). Flesh To Stone. done.

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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 8868 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: 1-20 for Racial PLs Reply #29 - Dec 3^rd, 2020 at 2:29pm	Print Post
	ZooperDooper wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2020 at 11:22pm: Mostly just the build plan and types of items to equip That's fairly basic: you have your primary stat + con. Up till lvl 8 you can wear Cannith Crafted crap that covers that maxed for slot(so far as I know nothing loot-gen or named has better stats that early). If you're feeling grindy you could go get the Fewild loot for lvl 5 and wear the appropriate set but frankly I'm not sure it's worth it. Are you planning to go sorc or give higgildypiggildy suggestion a go and take lock?

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Oracler Titan Demolisher Offline Sploits! omnomnom.. Posts: 387 Joined: Mar 17^th, 2014	Re: 1-20 for Racial PLs Reply #30 - Dec 4^th, 2020 at 4:02am	Print Post
	For a fire sorc if you struggle at low levels - go for rapid shot feat and light crossbow inquisitive. Just 6 AP in EK tree for elemental damage till u get that fireball

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Oracler Titan Demolisher Offline Sploits! omnomnom.. Posts: 387 Joined: Mar 17^th, 2014	Re: 1-20 for Racial PLs Reply #31 - Dec 4^th, 2020 at 4:33am	Print Post
	Also my last month favourite 1-20 speedrun build: Pure alchemist: 1-8 inquisitive (all the remaining AP) light xbow + Vile chemist (6AP just for poison dice), boosting poison (negative) spellpower items. Doubleslotted xbow with at-level augments for levels: 1,4 (and optionally 9) arborea, crafted good bludgeoning. Rapid shot (the only pro-xbow feat u take so u can use free respec on it). Then at lvl 9 (or at 12 if you like the xbow moar or plan to kill fire immune mobs til lvl 12) respec to: 9-20 fire (primary) and acid bombardier (so the RL belt boosts both) using challenges cloak and boots. The only metamagic is quicken, then mana feats (mental, imp mental, sorc PL). After lvl 12 you can safely drop acid and go pure fire (may still want an extra spell to the cycle). Comparing to fire sorc it's much better performing for lvl 1-5 (unless it's also xbow inq), then a bit slower at 6-9 (sorc gets fireball), then again it's better at 10-13, then stands with line for 14-17 (althou fire immunity is not a problem so it's better after all). After fire sorc gets meteor at 18 it's over till lvl 24 (+10 MCL on bombs).

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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 8868 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: 1-20 for Racial PLs Reply #32 - Dec 4^th, 2020 at 2:15pm	Print Post
	Oracler wrote on Dec 4^th, 2020 at 4:33am: 1-8 inquisitive (all the remaining AP) light xbow This is quite an interesting notion - do you find Inquisitive actually kicks in early enough to be any good? Early heroics are kind of my least favorite thing ever, but I never tried inqu in there. Could you elaborate a bit more? Especially interested in the 4-8 regions.

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Lemiro Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10 Joined: Feb 21^st, 2019	Re: 1-20 for Racial PLs Reply #33 - Dec 4^th, 2020 at 3:10pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Dec 4^th, 2020 at 2:15pm: This is quite an interesting notion - do you find Inquisitive actually kicks in early enough to be any good? Early heroics are kind of my least favorite thing ever, but I never tried inqu in there. Could you elaborate a bit more? Especially interested in the 4-8 regions. I can vouch for this, inquis is much faster for low level Alch. I can't remember if i switched at level 9 or 10


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higgildypiggildy Stormreaver Piker Offline I just mock the world Posts: 657 Joined: Dec 8^th, 2011	Re: 1-20 for Racial PLs Reply #34 - Dec 5^th, 2020 at 11:26am	Print Post
	I did exactly as Oracler suggested. Level 1, took a Crossbow, Inquisitive and Harpers trees. Rapid Shot. It massively outpowers low level sorc, alchemist, warlock. Then swap the feat using the free respec from Lockania's quest. At something like 6-9 depending on when you get some good spells. it's great.

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ZooperDooper Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1200 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2014	Re: 1-20 for Racial PLs Reply #35 - Dec 6^th, 2020 at 8:10am	Print Post
	Rapid Shot requires Point Blank as a pre-requisite.. did you mean Rapid Reload? Instead of Harper I'm going to give Feydark Illusionist Tree a go for CHA to Hit/Dam.. less AP to worry about because I don't have any extra yet. Only 7 points instead of at least 12 in Harper.. and can pour everything into CHA higgildypiggildy wrote on Dec 5^th, 2020 at 11:26am: I did exactly as Oracler suggested. Level 1, took a Crossbow, Inquisitive and Harpers trees. Rapid Shot. It massively outpowers low level sorc, alchemist, warlock. Then swap the feat using the free respec from Lockania's quest. At something like 6-9 depending on when you get some good spells. it's great.


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higgildypiggildy Stormreaver Piker Offline I just mock the world Posts: 657 Joined: Dec 8^th, 2011	Re: 1-20 for Racial PLs Reply #36 - Dec 7^th, 2020 at 2:41pm	Print Post
	ZooperDooper wrote on Dec 6^th, 2020 at 8:10am: Rapid Shot requires Point Blank as a pre-requisite.. did you mean Rapid Reload? ah, yeah, Rapid Reload indeed. 70% on a heavy xbow I think from memory, really big boost

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ZooperDooper Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1200 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2014	Re: 1-20 for Racial PLs Reply #37 - Dec 11^th, 2020 at 9:12pm	Print Post
	Here is what I ended up settling on... its fairly easy.. has CC, AoE and insta, as well as significant DPS using Rat Catcher.. ---------------------------------------- Class: 20 Warlock (Inquisitor) Race: Teifling True Neutral Start @ 1 Lvl-up STR: 08 CHA DEX: 10 +3 Tome minimum CON: 16 INT: 15 WIS: 08 CHA: 20 Skills: Spellcraft, Diplomacy, Heal, Perform, then Bluff, UMD Spells: Lvl1) Jump, Nightshield Lvl2) Invis, Blur Lvl3) DimDoor, Haste Lvl4) Evards, Flesh to Stone Lvl5) Tensers, FoD Lvl6) Wail of the Banshee, Hold Mon-Mass Level Class Feats 1 Standard: Rapid Reload Pact: Warlock: Pact: ? 3 Standard: Point Blank Shot 6 Standard: Rapid Shot 9 Standard: Precise Shot 12 Standard: Improved Critical: Ranged 15 Standard: Precision 18 Standard: Quicken Spell Negotiators Spectacles – Blindness Immunity Wallwatch Circlet – Heal+13 (don't have a +15 ) Family Recruit Sigil – Feather Falling Planar Compass – Defense+20 Mantle of the Dwarven Commander – Protection +6 Bronze Dragonscale Belt – Resistance +7 Brazenband/Ring of Flickering Steel – Wisdom+8 Wildwood Gauntlets – Master’s Gift Softsole Slippers – Good Luck +1 Ring of Nightfall – Dexterity +8 Aetherband – Strength +8 Wildwood Vest - Spell Agility +10 Ratcatcher – Adamantine Dynamistic


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The Grandest of Fellows Titan Demolisher Offline Hail Friends! Posts: 372 Location: Grand was inside us all along Joined: Jul 6^th, 2020	Re: 1-20 for Racial PLs Reply #38 - Dec 11^th, 2020 at 9:18pm	Print Post
	ZooperDooper wrote on Dec 11^th, 2020 at 9:12pm: Here is what I ended up settling on... its fairly easy.. has CC, AoE and insta, as well as significant DPS using Rat Catcher.. Delightful! one can only imagine how thrilled all the fellows will be to hear about this blessed endeavour of yours!


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ZooperDooper Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1200 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2014	Re: 1-20 for Racial PLs Reply #39 - Dec 11^th, 2020 at 10:02pm	Print Post
	btw... am really enjoying the Carceri Storm Pact


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ZooperDooper Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1200 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2014	Re: 1-20 for Racial PLs Reply #40 - Dec 12^th, 2020 at 3:08am	Print Post
	Thank you sir.. you are a Gentleman and a skull-hair.... I take back at LEAST half the things Meat has said about you.... The Grandest of Fellows wrote on Dec 11^th, 2020 at 9:18pm: Delightful! one can only imagine how thrilled all the fellows will be to hear about this blessed endeavour of yours!


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The Grandest of Fellows Titan Demolisher Offline Hail Friends! Posts: 372 Location: Grand was inside us all along Joined: Jul 6^th, 2020	Re: 1-20 for Racial PLs Reply #41 - Dec 12^th, 2020 at 10:34pm	Print Post
	ZooperDooper wrote on Dec 12^th, 2020 at 3:08am: Thank you sir.. you are a Gentleman and a skull-hair.... I take back at LEAST half the things Meat has said about you.... No! no! mine!! give them back!! Grand's ravenous ego feeds on all comment good and bad!!


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ZooperDooper Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1200 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2014	Re: 1-20 for Racial PLs Reply #42 - Dec 20^th, 2020 at 6:43pm	Print Post
	Figured I would post what is essentially my 'tweaked' 1-20 build.. is definitely effective, and if you have to be doing it over and over and over again, far less complicated to do. Class: 20 Warlock (Inquisitor) Race: Teifling True Neutral Lvl 0 @ 1(w/Racials & +8 Supreme Tome so far) STR: 08 12 Lvl-up:CHA DEX: 10 14 +3 Tome minimum CON: 16 22 INT: 15 19 WIS: 08 13 CHA: 20 27 ----For Epics/Combat Archery---- Lvl 0 @ 1 Lvl-up - CHA STR: 08 DEX: 14 +8 Tome CON: 16 INT: 16 WIS: 08 CHA: 18 Skills: Bluff, Spellcraft, Diplomacy, Heal, then UMD, Jump Spells: Lvl1) Jump, Color Spray Lvl2) Invis, Blur Lvl3) DimDoor, Haste Lvl4) Evards, Flesh to Stone Lvl5) Tensers, FoD Lvl6) Wail of the Banshee, Hold Mon-Mass Level Class Feats 1 Standard: Rapid Reload Pact: Warlock: Pact: Carceri Storm 3 Standard: Point Blank Shot 6 Standard: Rapid Shot 9 Standard: Precise Shot 12 Standard: Improved Critical: Ranged 15 Standard: Precision 18 Standard: Quicken Spell ------------------------------------ 21 Epic Feat: Combat Archery 24 Epic Feat: Overwhelming Critical 26 Epic Destiny Feat: Holy Strike 27 Epic Feat: Insightful Reflexes 28 Epic Destiny Feat: Double Shot 29 Epic Destiny Feat: Embodiment of Law 30 Epic Feat: Force of Personality Legendary: Scion of:Ethereal Plane Destiny Shiradi twists Sense Weakness (T4 Fury) Gird Against Demons (T4 Fury) If enough points Grim Precision (T3 Shadow) Cocoon (T1 Primal) Negotiators Spectacles – Blindness Immunity Wallwatch Circlet – Heal+13 Family Recruit Sigil – Feather Falling Planar Compass – Defense+20 Mantle of the Dwarven Commander – Protection +6 Bronze Dragonscale Belt – Resistance +7 Brazenband/Ring of Flickering Steel – Wisdom+8 Wildwood Gauntlets – Master’s Gift Softsole Slippers – Good Luck +1 Ring of Nightfall – Dexterity +8 Aetherband – Charisma +8 Wildwood Vest - Spell Agility +10 Ratcatcher – Adamantine Dynamistic Quiver ------------------ This lets me use CHA for Hit/Damage, Feydarks 'You've Got My Back' for extra 10 PRR/MRR when I scroll Shield and NightShield, and the fantastic One-Two punch of Evards and Color Spray. It's a fantastic Build for Reapers, where you may end up using scrolls to Heal a LOT (fellow crawlers REALLY appreciate you healing them after a classic New York pig fuck)


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SpaceGoat Stormreaver Piker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 598 Joined: Oct 14^th, 2015	Re: 1-20 for Racial PLs Reply #43 - Dec 21^st, 2020 at 10:02am	Print Post
	I would suggest you try a melee 2hf wizard. It seems like it will be faster clearing a room (at least in heroics)


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ZooperDooper Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1200 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2014	Re: 1-20 for Racial PLs Reply #44 - Dec 21^st, 2020 at 10:10am	Print Post
	Actually sounds interesting... ... but I really have no experience with casters. let alone a melee caster. I'm not willing or interested in spending time trying top figure out the actual stats, feats, spells, & gear for yet another build when I just want to do it quick and easy. I'll look around and see if anything is out there with SPECIFIC details (none of these '20 to INT, Illusion Focus.. profit'...) unhelpful posts If I'm going to even CONSIDER a new style or setup, I want it worked out ahead of time rather then getting invested from the start and then going 'wait.. what about this... wut?' SpaceGoat wrote on Dec 21^st, 2020 at 10:02am: I would suggest you try a melee 2hf wizard. It seems like it will be faster clearing a room (at least in heroics)


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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 8868 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: 1-20 for Racial PLs Reply #45 - Dec 21^st, 2020 at 12:20pm	Print Post
	ZooperDooper wrote on Dec 21^st, 2020 at 10:10am: Actually sounds interesting... ... but I really have no experience with casters. let alone a melee caster. In heroics melee spellcasters don't really "cast" per-se. Basically you are using palemaster for self-healing, so the only spell is lesser death aura + death aura. The rest is mainly buffs, displacement, etc. Optionally you can do some CC, but mostly you are just meleeing while your health goes up. I can put together a build for you if you're interested. Don't wanna do all that typing though if not.

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ZooperDooper Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1200 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2014	Re: 1-20 for Racial PLs Reply #46 - Dec 21^st, 2020 at 6:17pm	Print Post
	Do these stack? noamineo wrote on Dec 21^st, 2020 at 12:20pm: ... so the only spell is lesser death aura + death aura... Yes please.. quite curious about this... thanks! noamineo wrote on Dec 21^st, 2020 at 12:20pm: I can put together a build for you if you're interested. Don't wanna do all that typing though if not. On an unrelated note.. will edit and preview of messaging ever get fixed?


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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 8868 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: 1-20 for Racial PLs Reply #47 - Dec 21^st, 2020 at 7:08pm	Print Post
	ZooperDooper wrote on Dec 21^st, 2020 at 6:17pm: Do these stack? Yes they do. So does the "Greater Death Aura" in the PM cap. Not that matters since you're just 1-20, but the great thing is the self-healing is still very good in low-skull reapers. ZooperDooper wrote on Dec 21^st, 2020 at 6:17pm: Yes please.. quite curious about this... thanks! All right, give me some time to get my thoughts collected. ZooperDooper wrote on Dec 21^st, 2020 at 6:17pm: On an unrelated note.. will edit and preview of messaging ever get fixed? The short answer? No. That would take work and you know the Vault has rules. The long answer is "Maybe?".

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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ZooperDooper Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1200 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2014	Re: 1-20 for Racial PLs Reply #48 - Dec 21^st, 2020 at 7:25pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Dec 21^st, 2020 at 7:08pm: All right, give me some time to get my thoughts collected.


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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 8868 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: 1-20 for Racial PLs Reply #49 - Dec 22^nd, 2020 at 11:54am	Print Post
	Still fine-tuning but here's the start. Disclaimer: I have not actually leveled one of these in a while, this was based off experiments while ETRing last night. I can hopefully get a bit better in a few days when I have some time to dedicate: Assuming +7 tomes or better: 16 STR 18 INT Rest into CON Lvl 1 TWF / Quicken Lvl 3 Weapon Focus: Slashing Lvl 5 (Class) Extend Spell Lvl 6 Power Attack Lvl 9 Power Critical Lvl 10(class) Maximize Lvl 12 Imp THF Lvl 15 Cleave /(class) Maximize Lvl 18 Great Cleave Lvl 20 Mental Toughness or whatever Spells: I'm not going to go through every single spell you might want at every level, but here will be your most useful: lvl2 - Lesser Death Aura/Fog Bank(for miss chance) lvl3 - DISPLACEMENT!!! lvl4 - Death Aura/Negative Energy Burst(Prioritize these), then Stoneskin, Wall of Fire, and Ice Storm (DDoor is also nice) When you hit 4th lvl spells at lvl 7 is when the build really starts to work. With Extend and Quicken going, Death Aura and Lesser Death Aura active, the main spell you're going to cast is Negative Energy Burst for a quick self-heal. You mostly want buffs like stone skin, and area-effect spells like Wall of Fire, Acid Rain, Ice Storm, etc. Fog Bank and the various other "% miss chance" spells are fantastic for survivability. Enhancements: I can work up a more detailed breakdown time permitting, but 3 trees are key: Harpers - Int-to-hit/Int-to-dmg, and that's it Palemaster - some undead shroud to let heal from negative energy + more Eldritch Knight - elemental damage + SLAs(Imp Mage Armor & Imp Shield) Will continue to fine-tune as more time becomes available. The big problem is BAB, which badly gates the THF feats. If anyone has any suggestions I'm happy to workshop this.

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